>>> YOU’VE GOT THIS GUY WHO HAS BASICALLY ROLLED IN WITH A
SLEDGEHAMMER AND THE QUESTION IS
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS
NEXT IS CHILDREN GET SEPARATED
FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES CAN’T FIGURE OUT
WHOSE PARENTS BELONG TO WHICH
CHILD OR PUERTO RICO GETS HIT BY
A HURRICANE AND THEY CAN’T
FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
KILLED OR ON TAX DAY THE IRS
COMPUTERS SHUT DOWN.
YOU ARE SEEING THIS, I THINK,
VERY SLOW MOVING AND THEREFORE
VERY HARD TO ATTEND TO CRISIS.
>> BEST SELLING AUTHOR MICHAEL
LEWIS YESTERDAY ON "MORNING JOE"
LISTING THE VERY REAL IMPACTS
FROM THE LACK OF EXPERIENCE IN
ALL CORNERS OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. HIGH ON THAT LIST, IMMIGRATION.
IN A PAIR OF NEW DHS REPORTS
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL ON JUST HOW BADLY THAT
INCOMPETENCE PLAYED INTO THE
FAMILY OPERATION ICE CRISIS AT
THE BORDER.
THE BORDER. JOINING US JACOB SOBOROFF WHO
HAS BEEN ON THE STORY FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING.
VERY BEGINNING. YOU WONDER, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL
US, IS IT INCOMPETENCE LEADING
TO I’M HUE PLANT OR JUST PLAIN
INN PLUMITY.
INN PLUMITY. >> THESE TWO REPORTS CONFIRM THE
HORRIFYING DETAILS THAT YOU AND
I AND JOE AND ALL OF US HAVE
TALKED A LOT ABOUT AND
UNFORTUNATELY I GOT TO SEE WITH
MY OWN EYES.
IT TOOK THE ADMINISTRATION
MONTHS TO GET THERE, BUT THIS
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
REPORT, THE FIRST ONE, BASICALLY
SAYS THE ADMINISTRATION WAS NOT
PREPARED FOR THIS FAMILY
SEPARATION POLICY AND SORT OF
THE PRACTICES THAT THEY PUT INTO
PLACE MADE THIS POLICY FAR
WORSE.
WORSE. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT KIDS NOT
BEING IN CAGES.
WELL, THE REPORT SAYS NOT ONLY
WERE KIDS IN CAGES BUT THEY WERE
IN THESE CAGES FOR LONGER THAN
THE 72-HOUR PERIOD THAT ANYBODY
IS SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT IN THESE
BORDER PATROL HOLDING CELLS.
WE WERE TOLD IN THIS REPORT THAT
THE COMPUTER DATABASE THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION SAID WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE THERE IN ORDER TO REUNITE
THESE CHILDREN AND KEEP TRACK OF
THEM NEVER ACTUALLY EXISTED IN
THE FIRST PLACE AND WE WERE TOLD
AS WELL THAT THE IDEA THAT
PEOPLE WERE BEING TURNED AWAY
FROM PORTS OF ENTRY AND THEN
GOING AND CROSSING ILLEGALLY
BECAUSE OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY
WASN’T TRUE.
WASN’T TRUE. WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT ALSO WAS
TRUE.
TRUE. SO ALL THESE LINES THAT WE GOT
FED FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OVER
THE SUMMER, THIS REPORT
BASICALLY TEARS APART.
AND THEN JUST QUICKLY I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THIS OTHER REPORT
THAT CAME OUT ON THE SAME DAY
ABOUT THE NATION’S LARGEST
PRIVATE IMMIGRATION DETENTION
FACILITY, IT’S HERE IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA. JUST REALLY SICKENING STUFF.
I’VE BEEN INSIDE THAT FACILITY.
PROBABLY THE WORST DETAIL OF
THAT ONE IS NOOSES WERE FOUND
INSIDE DETAINEES CELLS AND WE
KNOW THAT SEPARATED FATHERS MANY
SEPARATED FATHERS WERE ACTUALLY
HELD INSIDE THIS FACILITY,
INADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE,
INADEQUATE DETENTION FACILITIES
AND INCREASING SEGREGATION,
ISOLATION FOR THESE PEOPLE, WE
ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE
NOOSES THERE.
NOOSES THERE. I GOT TO GO INSIDE THERE AND
TALK TO ONE OF THE SEPARATED
FATHERS THAT WAS INSIDE THERE
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
>> YOU SAY YOU’RE HAPPY BUT YOU
SPENT MONTHS HERE IN DETENTION
HERE.
HERE. HAD YOU KNOWN AND NOT SIGNED
THIS YOU COULD HAVE BEEN BACK
TOGETHER WITH YOUR SON MUCH
EARLIER.
EARLIER. YOU’RE SITTING HERE IN YOUR
ORANGE JUMPSUIT, YOU KNOW, IN
YOUR PRISON CLOTHES WITH YOUR
WRISTBAND.
WRISTBAND. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE HERE?
HOW DO YOU FEEL TO HAVE BEEN
HERE ALL SUMMER?
>> Translator: I FEEL LIKE WHY
DID THEY DECEIVE ME WITH THIS
PAPERWORK.
PAPERWORK. THEY DIDN’T EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT
IT WAS.
IT WAS. I WOULDN’T HAVE SUFFERED ALL
THIS TIME BEING SEPARATED FROM
MY SON.
MY SON. >> THAT’S ONE STORY.
THERE ARE OVER 2,600 STORIES OF
KIDS BEING SEPARATED, THESE
CONDITIONS ARE THINGS WE
REPORTED ALL SUMMER LONG AND
THIS IS AMERICA, THIS IS WHAT
WE’RE HEARING FROM THE DONALD
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. >> THESE TWO REPORTS TELL US
THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY WASN’T READY FOR THIS
CHILD SEPARATION READY FOR THE
CHILD SEPARATION POLICY AND THE
CONDITIONS WERE TERRIBLE INSIDE
SOME OF THESE FACILITIES.
WHAT DO THE REPORTS TELL YOU
ABOUT WHAT CAN BE GOING ON NOW
WITH HUNDREDS OF KIDS MOVED INTO
TENTS IN TEXAS WHERE THERE IS NO
SCHOOLING AND NO LEGAL
REPRESENTATION?
REPRESENTATION? >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT
GIANT TENT CITY ON THE BORDER.
I WAS DOWN THERE A WEEK AND A
HALF AGO.
HALF AGO. THE POPULATION IN THAT FACILITY
IS EXPLODING BECAUSE OF THE
POLICIES OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION TO INTIMIDATE
PARENTS FROM PICKING UP THEIR
CHILDREN FROM THESE DETENTION
FACILITIES.
FACILITIES. IT IS ON FEDERAL PROPERTY.
IT MEANS THAT FACILITY IS NOT
REQUIRED TO HAVE STATE AND LOCAL
INSPECTIONS LIKE OTHER HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES FACILITIES.
THE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THERE
ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME
OVERSIGHT AND RULES AND
REGULATIONS AND THE QUALITY OF
CARE THAT THEY MIGHT GET
ELSEWHERE.
ELSEWHERE. LOTS OF QUESTIONS STILL ABOUT
THAT FACILITY.
THAT FACILITY. I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 1,600
KIDS THERE TODAY THAT WE DON’T
KNOW THE ANSWER TO.