>> SEAN: WE’VE EXPOSED THE
POLITICALIZATION AND
WEAPONIZATION OF POLITICIZING
DIFFERENCES AND THE ABUSE OF
POWER CORRUPTION SCANDAL IN THE
U.S. HISTORY.
THAT BEING THE RUSSIA HOAX.
ONE OF THE MAIN FIGURES TARGETED
IN MUELLER’S WITCH-HUNT AND THE
DEEP STATE’S EFFORT TO DESTROY
DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES AND
HIS FAMILY, FORMER CAMPAIGN
MANAGER MAN IN A PORT.
MUELLER AND HIS TEAM WANTED
MANAFORT TO DIE IN JAIL AND THEY
TRIED HARD AND THEY ALSO PUT HIM
IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR
NEARLY A YEAR.
WHY?
TO BREAK HIM.
ASK YOURSELF, PROSECUTORS
DESTROYED HIS LIFE.
WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
THOSE THAT FILED FALSE
INFORMATION WITH THE FISA COURT?
THOSE THAT USED THE DIRTY
DISINFORMATION, RUSSIAN HILLARY
CLINTON BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
RUSSIAN MISINFORMATION DOSSIER.
LISTENED TO CHRISTOPHER STEELE
EVEN WHEN THEY KNEW IT WAS
FALSE.
THEY CONTINUED TO USE THE
DOSSIER.
ILLEGALLY SPYING ON CANDIDATE
TRUMP.
TRANSITION TEAM TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
LAST YEAR PAUL MANAFORT WAS
PARDONED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE’S NOW READY TO TELL HIS SIDE
OF THE STORY.
HE HAS A FOURTH COMING BOOK
THAT’S CALLED "POLITICAL
PRISONER."
IT WILL BE OUT FAIRLY SOON
REVEALING NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE
UNEQUAL STANDARD OF JUSTICE AND
THE RUSSIA HOAX.
HE JOINS US NOW FOR HIS FIRST
INTERVIEW SINCE BEING PARDONED.
PAUL MANAFORT, YOU LOOK HEALTHY.
I’M SURE IT’S BETTER WEARING A
SUIT AND TIE THAN ORANGE SUIT.
>> IT’S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU
HERE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I
APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY
TONIGHT. >> SEAN: YOU REALLY IN MANY
>> SEAN: YOU REALLY IN MANY
WAYS, YOU, ROGER STONE, CARTER
PAGE, FLYNN, ALL OF THIS STEMS
FROM A FALSE PHONY NARRATIVE
BASED ON A FALSE DOSSIER AND
PHONY FISA WARRANTS.
TELL US ABOUT THE WHOLE
EXPERIENCE FROM YOUR POINT OF
VIEW.
>> WELL, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW
IT’S BEEN A VERY COMPLICATED
LAST FIVE YEARS AND CERTAINLY
NOT A FUN EXPERIENCE.
A LOT OF SURPRISES, WHEN THINGS
FIRST STARTED TO BREAK AND THE
FALSE NARRATIVE FIRST STARTED TO
BE PROMOTED IN AUGUST 2016, I
DIDN’T TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY
BECAUSE I KNEW HOW RIDICULOUS IT
WAS TO EVEN SAY THAT THERE WAS
RUSSIAN COLLUSION GOING ON WITH
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
BUT AS TIME WENT ON, AS THE DRUM
BEAT GOT LOUDER, AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN ANONYMOUS GOVERNMENT
SOURCES STARTED PUTTING OUT
STORIES WHICH I KNEW WERE FAKE,
AND WORKING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA
AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TO
PROMOTE THIS CONCEPT THAT THERE
WAS A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION
GOING ON.
PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP AND
PARTICULARLY AROUND PEOPLE LIKE
ME AND ROGER STONE, HOW DO I
COMBAT THIS?
I FELT LIKE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE
OF A TSUNAMI AND THERE WAS NO
WAY MY VOICE WOULD BE HER
AGAINST ALL OF THIS ONSLAUGHT OF
MISINFORMATION.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHEN THEY
DID ULTIMATELY INDICT ME THEY
THREW A GAG ORDER ON ME MAKING
IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SPEAK
EVEN THOUGH THEY KEPT LEAKING
STORIES THAT WERE PROVEN FALSE.
AND WHEN I STARTED TO FIGHT
AGAINST THAT GAG ORDER THEY
THREW ME IN JAIL, WHERE, YOU
KNOW, THEY DELIBERATELY KNEW
WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
THEY DIDN’T WANT ME TO SPEAK TO
THE MEDIA.
THEY WANTED TO KEEP ME FROM MY
LAWYERS AND AFFECT MY ABILITY TO
PREPARE FOR MY TRIAL, AND
FRANKLY, FROM DAY ONE, I ALWAYS
FELT THEY WERE TARGETING ME AND
A COUPLE OF OTHERS TO TRY AND
GET AT THE PRESIDENT, THEN
CANDIDATE TRUMP AND THEN
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
I FIND IT IRONIC THAT WHAT’S
GOING ON TODAY, WITH THESE
CLAIMS ABOUT JANUARY 6, WHEN THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING THE
JANUARY 6 ALLEGATIONS ARE THE
VERY ONES WHO FOR FOUR AND A
HALF YEARS REFUSED TO RECOGNIZE
THE RESULTS OF THE 2016
ELECTION.
SO THIS BOOK THAT I’M WRITING IS
MEANT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL MY SIDE
OF THE STORY.
GET OUT MY SIDE OF THE FACTS.
TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT MY
CAREER IN POLITICS AND
GOVERNMENT, AND TO LET THE
READER UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY
WAS GOING ON IN THE TRUMP TOWERS
ON JUNE 9.
>> SEAN: YOU MENTIONED THE GAG
ORDER.
ROGER STONE, SIMILARLY, HAD A
GAG ORDER.
I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING
CALLED THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT
ALLOWS YOU TO SPEAK OUT BUT
APPARENTLY, I MUST -- I MUST
HAVE BEEN TO A BAD CATHOLIC
SCHOOL FOR 12 YEARS.
BUT THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM
YOU.
THEN THEY PUT YOU IN SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT. I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WANT
I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WANT
TO REVEAL HERE BEFORE THE BOOK
COMES OUT, WERE THERE SPECIFIC
MOMENTS WHERE THEY WERE OFFERING
TO IT YOU FREE IF YOU SAID
CERTAIN THINGS?
>> WELL, THERE WERE MOMENTS, AND
I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE
BOOK, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING
PRESSURE ON ME TO ADMIT TO FACTS
THAT WEREN’T TRUE AND I’LL TALK
ABOUT THOSE FACTS AND THOSE
EXPECTATIONS, AND THE QUID PRO
QUO THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT
I WOULD BE TREATED IN A VERY
LENIENT WAY.
THEY DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS GOING TO
LIE.
THERE WAS NO WAY THAT THEY COULD
FORCE ME INTO GIVING UP THE
PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, AND I NEVER
FELT UNCOMFORTABLE TALKING TO
THEM BECAUSE I KNEW THAT AS LONG
AS I TOLD THE TRUTH, I HAD
NOTHING TO FEAR.
BUT I WAS WRONG.
BECAUSE --
>> SEAN: WHAT WAS THE REASON
THEN -- WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT?
MY INTERPRETATION WAS, THEY WERE
TRYING TO BREAK YOU.
AND I REMEMBER AT THE TIME YOU
WERE SUFFERING FROM SOME HEALTH
ISSUES AS A RESULT OF IT.
WERE THEY AFRAID FOR YOUR
SAFETY?
HOW WERE -- WHEN YOU FINALLY GOT
TO SEE THEM, DID THEY TREAT YOU
WELL, WERE THEY NICE TO YOU OR
WERE THEY A THREAT TO YOU?
>> THE PRISONERS WERE NEVER AN
ISSUE WITH ME.
THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WAS.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT ME
INTO VIEW OF HARM’S WAY.
SOLITARY IS A TERRIBLE THING.
>> SEAN: WHY SOLITARY?
>> THEY SAID IT WAS TO PROTECT
ME.
I NEVER BELIEVED THAT FOR A
MINUTE.
IT DIDN’T PROTECT ME.
WHAT DID IT WAS IT PUT ME INTO A
SITUATION, I’M IN AN EIGHT BY 10
ROOM WITH NO WINDOWS, WITH NO
ACCESS TO PEOPLE.
NO ACCESS TO OUTSIDE.
AND LIMITED ABILITY TO
COMMUNICATE WITH MY LAWYERS.
AND I TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE
BOOK.
I TALK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, IT’S
INHUMANE WHAT THEY CALL SOLITARY
CONFINEMENT.
THEN THEY TRIED TO GET ME TO GO
TO RIKERS ISLAND AND BE IN
SOLITARY, WHICH FORTUNATELY, DUE
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE
WAS AN ISSUE OF SAFETY FOR ME IN
THAT CONTEXT THERE.
>> SEAN: ONLY BECAUSE OF THE
CONSTRAINTS OF TIME, I’M NOT
TRYING TO INTERRUPT YOU, WE’LL
DO A FULL HOUR WHEN YOUR BOOK
DOES COME OUT, THOSE DETAILS
THAT YOU’VE TOLD ME, THAT PEOPLE
WILL BE BLOWN AWAY, I’M TRYING
TO ASK THIS IN A WAY THAT WE
DON’T GIVE AWAY THE WHOLE BOOK HERE, AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT
HERE, AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT
THE CAMPAIGN, AND HOW MIKE PENCE
WAS CHOSEN, MY SOURCES HAVE BEEN
TELLING ME FOR A LONG TIME,
ROBERT MUELLER HAS CHECKED OUT.
HE KIND OF SUFFERED FROM THE
SAME COGNITIVE DECLINE THAT JOE
BIND HAS.
A, IS THAT TRUE, DID YOU SEE HIM
MUCH?
AND B, IF IT WASN’T HIM, WHO WAS
PUTTING ALL OF THIS PRESSURE ON
YOU?
HIS HITMAN, WISEMAN?
>> I NEVER -- I SAW MUELLER
WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY ONCE.
ANOTHER THAN THAT I HAD NO
CONTACT WITH HIM, AND FRANKLY,
HE DIDN’T LOOK LIKE HE KNEW WHO
I WAS WHEN I SAW HIM.
YES.
IT WAS WISEMAN.
HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS THE LEAD
PROSECUTOR ON MY CASE.
AND FROM DAY ONE -- HE WAS THE
ONE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY SO
OVERCHARGED ME ON MY CASE THAT
JUDGE ALISON IN VIRGINIA
ACTUALLY ADD NONMISHED ED-- ADMO
FROM THE BENCH, ARE YOU TRYING
TO PUT HIM TO JAIL FOREVER?
UNLESS I WOULD COOPERATE, THAT’S
WHAT THEY WERE PROMISING TO DO.
IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID
THE PRESENTATION IN THE D.C.
CASE, THEY ARGUED FOR THE
MAXIMUM PENALTY FOR ME.
BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T WANT ME TO
BE FREE.
>> SEAN: EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD --
LET ME ASK YOU THIS AND I WANT
TO STAY ON MUELLER’S --- -- WERE
THERE MOMENTS THAT YOU KNEW THAT
THEY WANTED YOU TO SAY WHAT THEY
WANTED YOU TO SAY, WHETHER IT
WAS TRUE OR NOT, BECAUSE THEY --
THE REAL TARGET WAS DONALD
TRUMP, NOT PAUL MANAFORT.
I’LL ASKING YOU IF THIS IS TRUE
AND THAT IF YOU WOULD HAVE SAID
IT YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE
WALKED OUT FREE?
WERE THERE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS
THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR TO
YOU SAY AND TELLING YOU, WINK,
NOD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO HOME
AND HAVE PIZZA TONIGHT IF YOU
GIVE US THE ANSWER WE’RE LOOKING
FOR.
>> WELL, I DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THOSE DETAILS IN THE
BOOK BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBT
IN MY MIND FROM DAY ONE I WAS A
MEANS TO AN END AND FRANKLY
AFTER THEY DIDN’T SUCCEED WITH
ME THEY USED THE SAME TACTICS
AGAINST ROGER STONE.
THEY DID THE NO KNOCK BREAK-IN
INTO HIS HOUSE, JUST LIKE THEY
DID IN MY HOUSE.
THE DIFFERENCE WAS, THEY HAD A
CNN CAMERA THERE BECAUSE HE
LIVED IN AN OPEN COMMUNITY, NOT
IN A CONDOMINIUM.
THEY PUT THE GAG ORDER ON ROGER
AND INDICTED HIM, TOO.
THE TECHNIQUE THAT THEY USED ON
HIM AND ME WAS NOT BECAUSE THEY
CARED ABOUT EITHER OF US.
WHO THEY CARED ABOUT WAS DONALD
TRUMP, AND WITHOUT US, THEY
DIDN’T THINK THEY COULD GET
TRUMP.
I REMEMBER LAUGHING TO MY LAWYER
WHEN I DID THE PLEA AGREEMENT
WITH THEM IN THE D.C. CASE, THAT
THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF STORIES
THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING DOWN
NOW.
PAUL MANAFORT WAS GOING TO THE
UNON HIM.
I SAID, LOOK, MAKE SURE THEY
UNDERSTAND I PLAN ON TELLING THE
TRUTH AND WHEN I TELL THE TRUTH
NOT ONLY IS DONALD TRUMP NOT
GOING DOWN, BUT THEIR WHOLE CASE
IS GOING TO BLOW UP.
AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THAT’S WHY -- AFTERWARDS.
>> SEAN: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
THIS.
WAS IT CLEAR TO YOU THAT THEY
WANTED YOU TO LIE ABOUT -- THEY
DIDN’T CARE IF YOU LIED ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP.
THAT THEIR TARGET WAS DONALD
TRUMP, AND THAT YOU BASICALLY,
THEY WANTED YOU TO LIE ABOUT
HIM.
NOW, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,
AND REMEMBER, THEY WANTED YOU TO
DIE IN JAIL.
THEY WANTED, WHAT 25, YEARS.
THEY WANTED YOU DEAD IN JAIL.
NOW YOU’RE BEING BASICALLY
OFFERED YOUR FREEDOM IF YOU SAY
WHAT THEY WANT -- WHAT THEY WANT
TO HEAR.
BUT YOU DIDN’T DO IT.
WHY?
WHY DIDN’T YOU DO IT?
>> THAT’S A STRONG INCENTIVE.
>> THEY WANTED ME TO SAY
SOMETHING THAT WASN’T TRUE AND I
WASN’T GOING TO DO THAT.
FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU
START WALKING DOWN THAT SLIPPERY
SLOPE WHO KNOWS WHERE YOU WILL
END UP.
I WASN’T GOING TO DO THAT I FELT
COMFORTABLE FROM DAY ONE, AND
THE WHOLE RUSSIAN COLLUSION
NARRATIVE, THAT, I KNEW IT WAS
PHONY.
AND IN THE BOOK, I WALKED
THROUGH ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE
PROSECUTOR’S CASE AND RUSSIAN
COLLUSION AND SHOW THAT FROM
ADAM SCHIFF TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO
SAID THEY HAD INSIDE INFORMATION
THEY HAD SEEN CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION, I EXPOSE ALL OF
THAT IN THE BOOK, THE TRUTH IS,
THERE WAS NO CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION.
THEY DIDN’T HAVE ANY SECRET
INFORMATION.
IT WAS A WEAPONIZATION OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT, THE NATIONAL
SECURITY OPERATIONS, AND
TARGETED, IN MY WILDEST DREAMS I
COULDN’T IMAGINE THIS, TARGETING
A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES, TO UNDERMINE HIS
PRESIDENCY AND TO TRY AND REMOVE
HIM FROM OFFICE.
THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS GOING TO
EVER BE A PARTICIPANT IN THAT.
>> SEAN: YOU KNOW WHAT I’VE
CONCLUDED, PAUL, AS A RESULT OF
THIS, WE DON’T AN AMERICA ANY
MORE UNDER THE LAWYER, WE NOW HAVE THE CRIMINALIZATION -- OF
HAVE THE CRIMINALIZATION -- OF
POLITICAL DIFFERENCES IN THIS
COUNTRY, AND PROSECUTEORIAL
ABUSE IS FAR BIGGER THAN WE
KNOW.
YOU’VE GIVEN ME A COUPLE OF
TIDBITS OFF-CAMERA THAT I CAN’T
WAIT FOR YOU TO TELL THE
COUNTRY.
THEIR EYES WILL BE OPENED WIDE