LIZ REPORT FEED WENT DOWN THERE.
IN EVENINGLAND PRIME MINISTER
THERESA MAY'S BREXIT PLAN MET
WITH A CRUSHING DEFEAT.
ASHLEY?
REPORTER: THE BREXIT DRAMA GOES
ON.
WHAT A CRUSHING HUMILIATING
DEFEAT IT WAS FOR THE PEMG.
432 NO VOTES, WITH AND CRUSHING
MA GIN OF 230 VOTES.
AFTER THAT RESULT THERE WAS
SPECULATION THERESA MAY MAY
RESIGN.
NO, NO WAY.
SHE WAS DEFIANT AND TOLD THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS THAT SOMETHING
HAS TO BE DONE TO HONOR THE
PEOPLE OF BRITAIN.
>> THE HOUSE HAS SPOKEN AND THE
GOVERNMENT WILL LISTEN.
IT'S CLEAR THE HUGHES DOES NOT
SUPPORT THIS DEAL.
BUT TONIGHT'S VOTE TELLS US
NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IT DOES
SUPPORT.
NOTHING ABOUT HOW -- NOTHING
ABOUT HOW OR EVEN IF IT INTENDS
TO HONOR THE DECISION THE
BRITISH PEOPLE TOOK IN A
REFERENDUM PARLIAMENT DECIDED TO
HOLD.
REPORTER: THE OPPOSITION PARTY
FILING A MOTION OF NO
CONFIDENCE.
THAT WILL BE DEBATED TOMORROW IN
PARLIAMENT.
THE PRIME MINISTER IS EXPECTED
TO SURVIVE THAT.
SHE STILL HAS THREE DAYS TO COME
BACK WITH A PLAN B.
FUTURE OF BREXIT VERY MUCH UP IN
THE AIR.
LIZ: LORD CONRAD BLACK, WE
WELCOME YOU TO THE SHOW.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M STILL A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE
OF LORDS.
LIZ: WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
>> SHE'LL WIN THE CONFIDENCE
VOTE.
SHE'LL BE CONFIRMED IN HER
POSITION AND SHE IS UNASSAILABLE
WITHIN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY.
HAVING PASSED A CONFIDENCE VOTE
WITHIN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY
THEY CAN'T QUESTION HER AGAIN
FOR A CONSIDERABLE TIME.
SHE IS SAFE ENOUGH, I THINK.
BUT YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS.
EITHER YOU FOLD THE WHOLE THING
UP AND ABANDON BREXIT, THAT'S
IMPOSSIBLE.
THEY HAVE A VOTE TO GO AHEAD AND
THEY WOULD NEVER GET A VOTE TO
OVERTURN IT.
TWO, YOU CRASH OUT AND LEAVE
WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT AND GO BACK
TO WHERE BRITAIN WAS BEFORE IT
JOINED THE COMMON MARKET.
AND YOU TRY TO NARROW THE GAP
WITH BRUSSELS WITH THE O NURKS S
OF THE EXISTING PROPOSAL.
IT SEEMS BRUSSELS WILL MAKE SOME
CONCESSIONS AND SHE CAN NARROW
THE GARP WITHIN THE HOUSE OF
COMMONS SOMEWHAT.
BUT THERE ARE TWO BASIC
PROBLEMS.
THERE IS NO MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR
EITHER OF THE OPTIONS.
IF YOU CAN'T GET A MAJORITY
SUPPORT, ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE
CARRIED ALONG BY EVENTS.
LIZ: THIS SEEMS LIKE A CRISIS OF
LEADERSHIP IN THE U.K.
AND WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS.
MY GEM FARAGE IS SAYING THIS IS
A BETRAYAL OF THE MIDDLE CLASS,
NOT DOING WHAT THE VOTERS WANT.
PEOPLE SEE CHAOS IN FRANCE AND
ITALY.
PEOPLE WHO WANTED BREXIT SAY WE
WANT TO GO YEARN OURSELVES, MAKE
OUR OWN LAWS AND STAND UP FOR
OUR OWN BORDERS.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
>> I ALMOST AGREE WITH NIGEL.
HE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
I THINK THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY
PUT IT IN A WAY IT'S MORE APT TO
GAIN WIRED APPEARANCE IN
PARLIAMENT.
BUT I WOULDN'T GO AS FAR AS
NIGEL AND SAY IT'S A COMPLETE
BETRAYAL.
BUT IT'S A TERRIBLE LACK OF
MORAL LEADERSHIP.
BUT FROM A GREAT MANY OF THESE
MPs HIDING BEHIND THE TACTIC
OF NOT AGREEING WITH ANYTHING
THAT COMES UP.
BUT THEY ARE ON A CONVEYER BELT
COMING TO A DECISION WHETHER
THEY AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.
THE MAJOR POWERS ARE FALTERING.
AND BRUSSELS ITSELF IS AN
UTTERLY INCOMPETENT INSTITUTION.
THEY ARE NOT ANSWERABLE TO
ANYONE, NOT TO THE MAJOR
CONSTITUENT MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
AND CERTAINLY NOT?
IN -- NOT IN STRASBOURG.
LIZ: THE E.U. COULD FALL APART
POTENTIALLY.
>> LIZ, IT WOULD BE LIKE TEXAS
AND CALIFORNIA AND ARIZONA AND
NEW MEXICO SEE SEEDING FROM
NEW MEXICO -EE SEEDING FROM
NEW MEXICO --E SEEDING FROM
NEW MEXICO -- YSEEDING FROM
NEW MEXICO -- YESEDING FROM
NEW MEXICO -- YES SING FROM
NEW MEXICO -- YES SEEG FROM
NEW MEXICO -- YES SEEDIFROM
NEW MEXICO -- YES SEEDINGOM
NEW MEXICO -- YES SEEDING FROM
THE' UNITED STATES.
LIZ: LET'S COME BACK' STATESIDE.
WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> I SUGGESTED A FOUR-PRONGED
ATTACK.
I THINK HE SHOULD MAKE AN OFFER
TO GIVE 60% OF THE NORMAL
COMPENSATION, THE FEDERAL
EMPLOYEES NOT NOW BEING PAID
WOULD GET.
YOU GIVE THEM THAT SO THEY CAN
PAY THEIR BASIC BILLS.
DECLARE A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AND
START WORK ON BUILDING THE
BORDER SECURITY.
IGNORE THE LOWER COURTS, AND
DON'T ALLOW THE DEMOCRATS TO GET
AWAY FROM THE NONSENSE OF JUDGE
SHOPPING AND SAYING A DISTRICT
FEDERAL JUDGE CAN TELL THE
PRESIDENT WHAT HE DOCK AND WHAT
THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ABOUT HIS
AUTHORITY.
AND THREE, USE THE ARMY.
BRING IN A COUPLE BRIGADES OF 10
THOUSANDS THOUSAND MEN AND STOP
THESE' CROSSING.
THE PRESIDENT IS THE
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.
HE CAN GET THE ARMY TO DO ANY
REASONABLE THING HE DEEMS
NECESSARY.
YOU HAVE GOT TO ATTACK ON ALL
FRONTS.
LIZ: LORD BLACK, YOU ARE SAYING
HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A DEAL
WITH THE DEMOCRATS.
HE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
THE POLLS ARE NOW REBUKING THE
DEMOCRATS, MOST OF VOTERS SAY IT
IS A CRISIS.
IT'S NOT A MANUFACTURED CRISIS.
IT'S A SECURITY CRISIS.
THAT'S ACCORDING TO QUINNIPIAC.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT, THAT
THE PRESIDENT SHOULD GRAB THE
LEADERSHIP, AND GO AHEAD AND DO
IT.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD
DO, THAN IS PLENTY OF PRICE DENT
FOR IT.
THAT D MR. IS PLENTY -- THERE IS
PLENTY OF PRECEDENCE FOR IT.
YOU CAN LEGISLATE AFTER THE
FACT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE TO
STOP THIS INVASION OF UNSKILLED
PEOPLE AND STOP ALL OF THE
SUBSIDIARY PROBLEMS.
YOU CAN'T HAVE THE GREATEST
CITIES IN THE COUNTRY TELLING
THEIR POLICE FORCES THEY CAN'T
ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS
AND TELLING CENSUS TAKERS SET UP
BY THE CONSTITUTION THAT THEY
CAN'T ASK PEOPLE'S CITIZENSHIP.
THIS WHOLE THING IS INSANE.