CREAM.
>> AND MOVING ON WE ARE HEARING
REPORTS THE GRAND JURY IS
PROGRESSING AND WITNESSES ARE
GETTING READY TO TESTIFY IN THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION CRIMINAL
PROBE.
NOW THE EX-DAUGHTER-IN-LAW OF
THE FORMER PRESIDENTS LONGTIME
CFO, ALAN WEISSELBERG, JENNIFER
WEISSELBERG HAD THIS TO SAY
ABOUT HER INVOLVEMENT IN THE
CASE.
WATCH.
>> HAVE YOU BEEN SUMMONED TO
TESTIFY BEFORE A GRAND JURY OR
TOLD TO PREPARE FOR SUCH
TESTIMONY?
>> I ANTICIPATE BEING CONTACTED,
BUT NOT -- I HAVE NOT AS OF YET.
>> ALL RIGHT.
JOINING ME IS FORMER U.S.
ATTORNEY AND SENIOR FBI OFFICIAL
CHUCK ROSENBERG.
GREAT OF TO YOU BACK ON THE
SHOW.
THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY
ADDED A FORMER ORGANIZED CRIME
PROSECUTOR, MARK AFA POMERANTZ,
TO ITS KMEFGZ OFCOMMISSION OF TH
BUSINESS.
AS AN OBJECTSERVER WHAT HAVE DOE
THAT SAY ABOUT THE APPROACH OF
PROSECUTORS BRINGING IN SOMEONE
WITH THAT BACKGROUND?
>> HE HAS A WONDERFUL
REPUTATION, WELL RESPECTED IN
OUR FIELD.
IM SURE THEYRE THROWING LOTS
OF RESOURCES AT THIS.
WHETHER THEY CHARGE OR WHO THEY
CHARGE, YOURE GOING TO PUT
TOGETHER THE BEST AGENTS AND
FORENSIC ANALYSTS YOU CAN FIND.
IN THIS CASE THEY BROUGHT IN AN
OUTSIDER.
THATS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL, BUT
ITS NOT UNHEARD OF.
IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AS I SAID, YOU WANT TO GET IT
RIGHT.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ALAN
WEIS
WEISSELBERG.
HES A DIFFERENT TRUMP WITNESS
THAN WHAT WERE USED TO SEEING
IN THE PAST.
HE WAS NEVER A SPOKESPERSON FOR
THE CAMPAIGN.
HE WAS PURELY A NUMBERS GUY.
HOW DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THE
PROSECUTIONS STRATEGY WHEN YOU
THINK OF JUST HOW INSTITUTIONAL
HE WAS TO THE INSTITUTION?
>> SURE.
GREAT QUESTION.
HES A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT
WITNESS THAN PERHAPS WHAT THE
MEDIA IS USED TO, BUT HES NOT
VERY DIFFERENT FROM A
PROSECUTORS PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, OFTEN WE RELY ON
INSIDERS.
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION WE KNOW
IS RELATIVELY SMALL, AT LEAST IN
TERMS OF PERSONNEL.
MR. WEISSELBERG, AS I UNDERSTAND
IT, HAS BEEN THERE A VERY LONG
TIME.
HES THE NUMBERS GUY.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND
HOW AN ORGANIZATION WORKS AND
HOW ITS MONEY MOVES AND FLOWS,
HES THE GUY TO TALK TO.
AND SO AT LEAST FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, HES A VERY
TYPICAL, VERY ORDINARY
WITNESS,AL BE IN A VERY
HIGH-PROFILE INVESTIGATION.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF
CHALLENGES TRUMPS FACING, I
WANT TO JUST GO OVER A FEW OF
THEM FOR YOU BECAUSE THE OTHER
LEGAL CHALLENGES THAT HE FACES
INCLUDING THE FORMER PRESIDENTS
ONETIME PERSONAL LAWYER, RUDY
GIULIANI.
THEYRE URGING A JUDGE TO
DISMISS A LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM
FILED BY CONGRESSMAN BENNY
THOMPSON AND TEN OTHER HOUSE
DEMOCRATS OVER THE CAPITOL RIOT.
AND TRUMPS LAWYER IS BASICALLY
ARGUING THAT TRUMP HAS ABSOLUTE
IMMUNITY FROM CIVIL LAWSUITS
OVER HIS OFFICIAL ACTIONS WHILE
HE WAS IN OFFICE.
HOW VIABLE DO YOU THINK THAT
ARGUMENT IS GOING TO BE IN A
COURT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT ARGUMENT
HAS BEEN TRIED BY MR. TRUMP.
IF YOU RECALL, THIS MAY BE AN
OBSCURE REFERENCE FOR SOME.
GENE CARROLL HAD SUED HIM FOR
COMMENTS ON ACTIONS THAT HE MADE
AND TOOK, AND HE SAID IN A PRESS
CONFERENCE, HE DISPARAGED MS.
CARROLL, MADE UGLY COMMENTS
ABOUT HER.
I THINK THEY WERE UNTOWARD AND
UNFAIR.
BUT CLAIMED THAT HE HAD ABSOLUTE
IMMUNITY BECAUSE HOLDING PRESS
CONFERENCES AND ANSWERING
QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS ARE
PART OF HIS OFFICIAL DUTIES.
THAT WAS DISMISSED.
LOOK, EACH THING TURNS ON ITS
FACTS, AYMAN.
I DONT BLAME HIM FOR TRYING.
THATS WHAT PEOPLE IN LITIGATION
DO.
THEY TRY.
AND THATS WHY YOU HAVE JUDGES
TO MAKE THESE IS DETERMINATIONS.
IN THE END I DONT THINK ITS
GOING TO SUCCEEDS.
BUT YOUR QUESTION ALSO
UNDERSCORED ANOTHER REALLY
IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE THAT I
THINK YOUR VIEWERS PROBABLY
UNDERSTAND BUT LET ME REITERATE.
SOME OF THE LEGAL CHALLENGES
THAT MR. TRUMP FACES ARE CIVIL
IN NATURE.
THOSE TEND TO BE ABOUT MONEY.
OTHER CHALLENGES THAT HE FACES
ARE CRIMINAL IN NATURE, THAT
TENDS TO BE ABOUT LIBERTY.
YOU KNOW, THE CHANCES THAT HE OR
SOMEONE ELSE COULD GO TO JAIL.
AND SO CIVIL CASES ARE
TROUBLESOME, THERES THINGS THEY
HAVE TO ADDRESS.
BUT HES NOT GOING TO JAIL IN A
CIVIL LAWSUIT.
IN A CRIMINAL CASE, OF COURSE,
THE CONSEQUENCES AND THE STAKES
ARE VERY DIFFERENT.