THAT IN THE ARTICLE, AND EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWS REALLY
IS GRUESOME.
IS GRUESOME. >> THANKS, LAWRENCE.
>> THANK YOU, RACHEL.
>>> AS I SAID TONIGHT WE BEGIN
WITH THE BREAKING NEWS REPORTING
"THE WASHINGTON POST" TONIGHT.
"THE WASHINGTON POST" IS
REPORTING, QUOTE, THE TURKISH
GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD U.S.
OFFICIALS IT HAS AUDIO AND VIDEO
RECORDINGS THAT PROVE "THE
WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST JAMAL
KHASHOGGI WAS KILLED INSIDE THE
SAUDI CONSULATE THIS MONTH
ACCORDING TO U.S. AND TURKISH
OFFICIALS.
OFFICIALS. THE RECORDINGS SHOW THAT A SAUDI
TEAM DETAINED KHASHOGGI IN THE
CONSULATE AFTER HE WALKED IN ON
OCTOBER 2nd TO OBTAIN AN
OFFICIAL DOCUMENT BEFORE HIS
UPCOMING WEDDING AND KILLED HIM
AND DISMEM BERED HIS BODY.
QUOTE, YOU CAN HEAR HOW HE WAS
INTERROGATED, TORTURED AND THEN
MURDERED.
MURDERED. TURKISH OFFICIALS ARE CONCERNED
RELEASING SUCH A RECORDING COULD
REVEAL GATHERING TECHNIQUES.
THE PRESIDENT BEGAN HIS DAY WITH
A PHONE CALL TO "FOX & FRIENDS,"
AND EVEN THE PRESIDENT’S BEST
FRIENDS AT "FOX & FRIENDS" WAS
SURPRISED TO HEAR HIM SAY THIS
MORNING THAT U.S. RELATIONS WITH
SAUDI ARABIA ARE NOW, HIS WORD,
EXCELLENT.
EXCELLENT. >> WHAT’S AT STAKE WITH
U.S.-SAUDI RELATIONS, SIR?
>> I WOULD SAY THEY’RE
EXCELLENT.
EXCELLENT. IS EVERYTHING IN JEOPARDY NOW,
SIR?
SIR? >> I HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT
HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. AND WE’RE PROBABLY GETTING
CLOSER THAN YOU MIGHT THINK.
BUT I HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT
HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. >> "FOX & FRIENDS" OBVIOUSLY HAS
A BETTER GRASP THAN THE
PRESIDENT OF WHAT THE JAMAL
KHASHOGGI STORY SHOULD MEAN FOR
U.S. RELATIONS WITH SAUDI
ARABIA.
ARABIA. LATER THAT MORNING THE PRESIDENT
PROVED AS IN ALL THINGS THAT FOR
HIM IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY NO
MATTER HOW MANY REPORTERS SAUDI
ARABIA MIGHT DECIDE TO MURDER,
WE STILL HAVE TO BE NICE TO THEM
IF THEY BUY U.S. WEAPONS
SYSTEMS.
SYSTEMS. >> I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF
STOPPING A COUNTRY FROM SPENDING
$110 BILLION, WHICH IS AN
ALL-TIME RECORD AND LETTING
RUSSIA HAVE THAT MONEY AND
LETTING CHINA HAVE THAT MONEY.
WHAT GOOD DOES THAT DO US?
AGAIN, THIS TOOK PLACE IN
TURKEY, AND TO THE BEST OF OUR
KNOWLEDGE KHASHOGGI IS NOT A
UNITED STATES CITIZEN, IS THAT
RIGHT?
RIGHT? HE’S A PERMANENT RESIDENT, OKAY.
WE DON’T LIKE IT, JOHN.
WE DON’T LIKE IT AND WE DON’T
LIKE IT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE
SHOULD STOP $110 BILLION FROM
BEING SPENT IN THIS COUNTRY
KNOWING THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE
ALTERNATIVES, TWO VERY GOOD
ALTERNATIVES, THAT WOULD NOT BE
ACCEPTABLE TO ME.
>> EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT SAID
THERE IS A LIE.
THERE IS NO DEAL TO SELL $110
BILLION IN WEAPON SYSTEMS TO
SAUDI ARABIA.
SAUDI ARABIA. AND, IN FACT, IT WOULD BE VERY
DIFFICULT FOR SAUDI ARABIA TO
OBTAIN NEW WEAPON SYSTEMS FROM
OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WOULD BE
COMPATIBLE WITH THE WEAPONS
SYSTEMS THAT SAUDI ARABIA HAS
ALREADY HEAVILY INVESTED IN FROM
THE UNITED STATES.
BRUCE RIDDELL OF THE BROOKINGS
INSTITUTION TOLD "THE WASHINGTON
POST" TODAY, IT WOULD TAKE
DECADES TO TRANSITION FROM U.S.
AND U.K. AIRCRAFT, FOR EXAMPLE,
TO RUSSIAN OR CHINESE AIRCRAFT.
SAME IS TRUE FOR TANKS,
COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT AND
OTHER HI-TECH EQUIPMENT.
AND THE SAUDIS DON’T HAVE TIME
GIVEN THEY ARE BOGGED DOWN IN
YEMEN.
YEMEN. WHEN IT COMES TO WEAPON SYSTEMS
THE UNITED STATES HAS ALWAYS
BEEN DEALING WITH SAUDI ARABIA
FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH,
SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP
APPARENTLY DOES NOT KNOW.
IT IS SAUDI ARABIA THAT
DESPERATELY NEEDS AMERICAN
WEAPONS SYSTEMS, NOT THE UNITED
STATES THAT NEEDS DESPERATELY TO
SELL THEM TO SAUDI ARABIA.
DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY HAS
ALWAYS LOVED DOING BUSINESS WITH
SAUDI ARABIA NO MATTER WHAT THEY
DO AROUND THE WORLD.
>> SAUDI ARABIA, AND I GET ALONG
GREAT WITH ALL OF THEM.
THEY BUY APARTMENTS FROM ME,
SPEND $40 MILLION, $50 MILLION
AM I NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE THEM
VERY MUCH.
VERY MUCH. >> SHANE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR JOINING US TONIGHT ON THIS
BREAKING NEWS NIGHT.
THERE ARE FOUR OF YOU BYLINED ON
THIS.
THIS. I CAN SEE IT WAS TEAMWORK.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT ON
WHAT THE EVIDENCE BASE IS HERE
KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW?
YOU HAVE REPORTS FROM OFFICIALS
WHO ARE AWARE OF THESE
AUDIOTAPES.
AUDIOTAPES. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHO HAS
ACTUALLY HEARD THEM?
>> WELL, I THINK OUR BEST
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE TURKS
HAVE HEARD THEM AND HAVE ACCESS
TO THIS MATERIAL AND BELIEVE
THAT IT’S VERY COMPELLING AND
DEMONSTRATES PROOF IN THEIR MIND
THAT JAMAL KHASHOGGI WAS KILLED
AND TORTURED INSIDE THE
CONSULATE.
CONSULATE. THEY HAVE SHARED THE INFORMATION
AS WE UNDERSTAND IT ABOUT WHAT
THESE RECORDINGS SHOW AND WHAT
YOU CAN HEAR ON THEM.
IT’S NOT CLEAR WITH THE AMERICAN
OFFICIALS, IT’S NOT CLEAR TO US
THAT THEY HAVE PHYSICALLY HANDED
OVER THE MATERIAL TO THE U.S.
SIDE SO THAT IT CAN BE ASSESSED
AND ANALYZED.
AND ANALYZED. BUT I HAVE TO SAY FROM TALKING
TO U.S. OFFICIALS ABOUT THIS IN
THE PAST 24, 48 HOURS I AM NOT
HEARING ANYONE SAY THAT THEY
DON’T BELIEVE WHAT THE TURKS ARE
SAYING OR THAT THEY DON’T FIND
IT PERSUASIVE.
IT PERSUASIVE. NO ONE IS NECESSARILY COMING OUT
AND SAYING WE HAVE DEFINED PROOF
POSITIVE IT’S LEGITIMATE.
BUT I’M NOT HEARING THE KIND OF
PUSH BACK AND SKEPTICISM YOU
MIGHT NORMALLY HEAR FROM
INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS IF THEY
THOUGHT THE INFORMATION WAS
FLAWED OR THAT IT WAS INCORRECT.
>> YOU’RE ALSO REPORTING TONIGHT
THAT ONE OTHER ELEMENT OF
EVIDENCE IS THAT A FRIEND OF CU
KHASHOGGI’S TEXTED HIM AFTER HE
ENTERED THE CONSULATE, AND THAT
TEXT WAS NEVER RECEIVED.
THERE’S EVIDENCE IT WASN’T
RECEIVED.
RECEIVED. AND CLEARLY THAT INDICATES THAT
KHASHOGGI HAS NOT BEEN IN A
POSITION SINCE SHORTLY AFTER
ENTERING THE CONSULATE TO
RESPOND OR RECEIVE A TEXT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. AND THIS ALSO COMES WITH OTHER
PIECE OF INFORMATION, OR ABSENCE
OF INFORMATION.
OF INFORMATION. THERE’S SURVEILLANCE IMAGES
LEAKING OUT OF HIM ENTERING THE
CONSULATE, NOTHING SHOWING HIM
LEAVING.
LEAVING. THIS IS TYPICAL IN A CASE LIKE
THIS WHERE YOU HAVE THIS SORT OF
MYSTERY,THIES DIFFERENT PIECES
OF INTELLIGENCE, THE MOSAIC ARE
ALL STARTING TO LINE UP.
CLEARLY THE TURKS BELIEVED FROM
THE BEGINNING THAT SINCE THERE
WAS FOOTAGE OF HIM GOING IN AND
NOT COMING OUT, THERE WAS PRETTY
DAMNING.
DAMNING. BUT NOW WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS I
THINK THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIS
OTHER VERY DOCUMENTED TYPE OF
INFORMATION, QUITE GRAPHIC AND