MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
A FOX BUSINESS ALERT NOW.
A FORMER FBI EMPLOYEE REPORTEDLY
UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
HE'S ACCUSED OF FALSIFYING
DOCUMENTS TIED TO THE
SURVEILLANCE OF 2016 TRUMP
CAMPAIGN OF STAFFER CARTER PAGE.
THE A ALARMING REPORT COMING
WEEKS BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THE
DOJ INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT.
JOINING ME NOW IN A FOX BUSINESS
EXCLUSIVE IS THE FORMER FOREIGN
POLICY ADVISOR TO THEN CANDIDATE
DONALD TRUMP, CARTER PAGE
HIMSELF.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
LET ME GET YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
WE KNOW HERE.
THIS OF COURSE IS IN LIGHT OF
THE FACT THAT YOU WERE
SURVEILLED, YOU WERE WIRETAPPED.
THEY HAD TO GET A FISA WARRANT
TO DO SO.
WE FOUND THE FBI LAWYER
FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO GET THAT
FISA WARRANT WHICH ENDED UP YOU
BEING SURVEILLED.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION.
>> MY REACTION IS THIS IS MORE
OF THE SAME.
THEY HAVE BEEN FALSIFYING
DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDING FALSE
TESTIMONY IN THE COURT OF LAW,
COURTS OF LAW FOR YEARS NOW.
JUST LAST YEAR IN MY ONE CASE,
YOU KNOW, ON JANUARY 30th,
2018, THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF
NEW YORK PUT A FALSE PLEADING,
MISLEADING THE COURT ABOUT ABUSE
OF PROCESS AND THE FISA ABUSE.
TWO DAYS LATER, THEN CHAIRMAN
DEVIN NUNES WITH HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE TOTALLY PROVED THEM
WRONG.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> SO IT'S -- WE'VE KNOWN THESE
THINGS ARE WRONG FOR A LONG TIME
BUT THE FAKE NEWS AND THE
DEMOCRATS KEEP PUSHING THIS
FALSE NARRATIVE.
MARIA: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT
THAT, THE FAKE NEWS THAT YOU
REFERRED TO, BECAUSE THE MEDIA
WAS INVOLVED IN HELPING ONE SIDE
ACTUALLY DRIVE THE STORY OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP COLLUDING WITH
THE RUSSIANS FOR THREE YEARS AND
OUR AUDIENCE KNOW YOU HOW
OUTRAGED I WAS ABOUT THE
COLLUSION CONVERSATION BASED ON
NO EVIDENCE.
FOR THREE YEARS, WE WERE TOLD
THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WITHIN
THE CIRCLE OF DONALD TRUMP THAT
NEEDED TO BE INVESTIGATED
INCLUDING YOURSELF, BECAUSE THEY
HAD THESE TIES TO RUSSIA.
TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.
EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HAPPENED, FOR
THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
FOLLOWING THIS AS CLOSELY AS YOU
AND I HAVE.
>> LISTEN, THEY HAVE JUST BEEN
PUTTING FALSE INFORMATION OUT
THERE TO THE MEDIA.
THE DEMOCRATS AND THEIR ALLIES
IN WASHINGTON, IN THE MEDIA,
CONSTANTLY PUSHING LIES AFTER
LIES.
FINALLY THIS GETS PICKED UP BY A
COURT, PICKED UP BY THE COMEY,
McCABE, FBI, AND THEY GOT A
WARRANT, A FRAUDULENT WARRANT, I
BELIEVE, TO SPY ON MYSELF AS A
WAY OF GETTING INTO THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN.
MARIA: SO YOU WERE SURVEILLED
FOR A YEAR AND YOU HAD TO RENEW
THOSE FISA WARRANTS, WHAT, THREE
TIMES, FOUR TIMES.
>> WELL, THEY HAD TO RENEW.
MARIA: THEY HAD TO.
>> I HAD NO SAY WHATSOEVER
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT KEEPS
HAPPENING.
THE SAME THING WITH THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT AND THE
CASE ARGUING TODAY IN THE SECOND
CIRCUIT.
MARIA: I'M GOING TO GET TO THE
SECOND CIRCUIT IN A MINUTE.
WE WERE LOOKING AT A CARTER PAGE
ENTRAPMENT LINE.
YOU WERE BASICALLY INVITED TO
TONS OF CONFERENCES IN
CAMBRIDGE, INTERNATIONAL
CONFERENCES BY WHO WE KNOW TODAY
TO HAVE BEEN AN INFORMANT OF THE
GOVERNMENT, STEPHAN HALPER.
WHEN YOU WERE GETTING THE
INVITATIONS WHAT DID YOU GLIENG
I
THINK?>> I GIVE PEOPLE THE BENEF
THINK?>> I GIVE PEOPLE THE BENET
THINK?>> I GIVE PEOPLE THE BENEO
THINK?>> I GIVE PEOPLE THE BENEF
THE DOUBT.
ALL THE PEOPLE I WORKED WITH ON
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ARE FOREIGN
POLICY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE
VOLUNTEERS, THEY'RE SOME OF THE
BEST PEOPLE I EVER WORKED WITH
IN MY LIFE.
MARIA: YOU TRUSTED THEM.
>> I DEFINITELY TRUSTED THE
PEOPLE ON THE TRUMP TEAM AND I
KNEW THAT IN TERMS OF
INTERACTING, HAVING THE RIGHT OF
PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY WITH OTHER
PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, THERE
SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE
NO ISSUE.
LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT SOME
PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SOME AGENDA.
MARIA: SO WHAT WAS THEIR
AGENDA, DO YOU THINK?
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
LAST TWO AND-A-HALF YEARS TO
YOU.
>> WELL, I ALWAYS GIVE --
SIMILARLY, I CONTINUE TO GIVE
PEOPLE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAS BEEN A
BIG COVERUP.
AS I MENTIONED, THEMING
AS I MENTIONED, THENING
AS I MENTIONED, THEN CG
AS I MENTIONED, THEN CHAIRMAN
DEVIN NUNES AND CHAIRMAN LINDSEY
GRAHAM AND CHAIRMAN CHUCK
GRASSLEY FROM THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AS WELL HAVE
BEEN SHOWING THROUGH INTENSIVE
INVESTIGATIONINGS ALL OF THE
WRONG-DOING BY MISLEADING THESE
FEDERAL DISTRICT COURTS IN THE
UNITED STATES.
AND SO THAT IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE
AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE HAS BEEN
A CONTINUED COVERUP TO THIS VERY
DAY.
WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE TRUTH
BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT
SOON.
MARIA: YOU WERE SAYING THE
MEDIA REPORTS, BASICALLY WHAT
WAS HAPPENING WAS THEY WERE --
YOU'RE SAYING THE DEMOCRATS WERE
PUTTING OUT NEWS, QUOTE,
UNQUOTE, AND YAHOO PICKED ITS UP
AND OTHERS PICKED IT UP ABOUT
YOU HAVING RELATIONSHIPS WITH
RUSSIANS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING?
>> EXACTLY.
MARIA: THOSE NEWS REPORTS WERE
USED AS A JUSTIFY
USED AS A JUST FY
USED AS A JUST FIX
USED AS - JUST FIX
USED AS --JUST FIX
>> I GET CALLS FROM THE
WASHINGTON POST, NEW YORK TIMES,
CNN.
MARIA: AND THEY'RE ASKING WHAT?
>> THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT THE SAME
TWO FALSE ALLEGATIONS WHICH THE
DEMOCRATS, THEIR CONSULTANTS,
AND THEIR LAWYERS WERE ALL
PUSHING.
NONE OF THEM PICKED IT UP BUT
FINALLY THEY FOUND SOMEONE FROM
YAHOO NEWS TO PUT OUT THIS
DEFAMATORY INFORMATION TO THE
WORLD AND REALLY INTERFERE IN
THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
MARIA: THEY WANTED TO DIRTY YOU
UP, THEY WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU
WERE SOME, YOU KNOW, ENEMY OF
AMERICA, WORKING WITH THE
RUSSIANS.
>> WELL, YES, BUT I THINK THEY
WANTED TO DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT
TOO.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, AND THE MAIN
REASON THEY'RE DOING IT IS THEY
WANTED TO DIRTY UP THEN
CANDIDATE TRUMP AND THE ENTIRE
TRUMP CAMP PAIN AND IT REALLY
WAS A DARK CLOUD HANGING OVER
THE CAMPAIGN UNTIL ELECTION IN
NOVEMBER OF 2016, THROUGH THE
TRANSITION AND GOING ON YEARS
NOW INTO THE EARLY YEARS OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST
ADMINISTRATION.
MARIA: SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE
FISA WARRANTS HAD TO BE
RE-UPPED, THEY WERE RE-UPPED
THREE TIMES.
YOU WERE SURVEILLED FOR MORE
THAN A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR?
>> IT'S 90 DAY RENEWALS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS SUBMITTED BY
SALLY YATES, THEN THE DEPUTY
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND JAMES COMEY
IN OCTOBER OF 2016.
THEN THEY RENEWED IT AGAIN, JUST
A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE THE
INAUGURATION IN JANUARY OF 2017.
AND TWO MORE TIMES.
MARIA: WE SHOULD POINT OUT THAT
YOU WERE NEVER CHARGED WITH
ANYTHING.
YOU WERE NEVER CHARGED WITH ANY
WRONG-DOING.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
MARIA: YOU'RE WALKING AROUND.
THEY LISTENED IN ON YOUR PHONE
CALLS, NOT JUST TO HEAR YOUR
PHONE CALLS BUT TO GET A WINDOW
INTO WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE
DRUM MANY
TRUM MANY
TRUMPMANY
TRUMP CNY
TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
>> IT'S WORSE THAN THAT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED ANY
QUESTIONS BY ANY OF THE FEDERAL
INVESTIGATORS EITHER DOJ OR FBI
THAT EVEN MADE ANY SENSE OR
HINTED AT ANY CRIMINALITY
WHATSOEVER.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN JUST CLEAR AND
CONVINCING EVIDENCE.
IT'S JUST THERE'S NO EVIDENCE
WHATSOEVER BECAUSE I NEVER DID
ANYTHING WRONG AND ALL THE
PEOPLE, MY FELLOW VOLUNTEERS,
LOW LEVEL VOLUNTEERS THAT I
WORKED WITH, ON THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN, THEY WERE AGAIN SOME
OF THE BEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER
DEALT WITH IN MY LIFE.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM ARE
U.S. MILITARY VETERANS AND CLEAN
AS A WHISTLE.
MARIA: WE SHOULD POINT OUT THEY
WERE SURVEILLING YOU FOR A YEAR,
GETTING ALL THE PLANS OF THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THEN NEVER
CHARGED YOU WITH ANYTHING.
>> YEAH.
MARIA: SO THERE'S THAT.
YOU HAVE A COURT HEARING TODAY.
TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING.
>> WELL, SIMILAR TO THE FISA
COURT WHERE THEY ONLY TAKE ONE
SIDE OF THE STORY, SO FAR THE
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
ONLY TOOK ONE SIDE OF THE STORY
AND SO NOW I'M APPEALING IN THE
SECOND CIRCUIT WHICH IS A ONE
STEP BELOW THE SUPREME COURT,
ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED COURTS
IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC
THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY LISTEN
TO THE TRUTH.
THEY ACTUALLY GAVE ME A HEARING
WHEN I WAS NOT EVEN GRANTED A
HEARING AT ALL, RIGHT WHEN I WAS
GETTING ALL THESE DEATH THREATS
T SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
NEVER GAVE ME THAT.
I'M HOPING THEY CAN START
REVERSING THIS VERY BAD TREND.
MARIA: YOU MAKE A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT.
ONCE THAT GROUP STARTED THROWING
THINGS IN THE MEDIA AND YAHOO
PICKED IT UP AND OTHERS PICKED
IT UP, YOUR NAME WAS OUT THERE.
YOU STARTED GETTING DEATH
THREATS.
YOU TOLD THE DOJ, LOOK, I'M
GETTING DEATH THREATS.
>> YES.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS.
THE IN MARCH OF 2017, THAT'S THE
MAIN THING -- THE PRIMARY THING
I WANTED FROM THE FBI.
I HAD AROUND 10 MEETINGS OR FIVE
MEETINGS AT OVER 10 HOURS WITH
THE FBI AND I WAS ASKING FOR
THEIR HELP.
INSTEAD OF HELPING ME, THERE WAS
MORE CRIMINAL LEAKS INTO APRIL,
THE FOLLOWING MONTH OF 2017.
MARIA: WHAT AN ORDEAL THIS HAS
BEEN FOR YOU, CARTER.
>> IT'S BEEN AN ORDEAL FOR OUR
COUNTRY.
MARIA: TELL ME HOW THIS
IMPACTED YOUR LIFE.
YOU GO TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
YOU GET WIRETAPPED, SURVEILLED,
YOU'RE NEVER CHARGED WITH
ANYTHING.
HOW HAS IT IMPACTED YOU.
>> I LOOK FROM THE BIG PICTURE
PERSPECTIVE, MARIA.
I LOOK AT THE DAMAGE IT'S DONE
TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, HIS
ADMINISTRATION.
MARIA: WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOU'RE
WALKING AROUND ANONYMOUSLY,
YOU'RE AFRAID OF WHO IS
FOLLOWING YOU.
THERE'S BEEN AN IMPACT TO YOU
PERSONALLY, HASN'T THERE?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY, BUT FIRST
AND FOREMOST, WE NEED TO FIX
THIS DISASTER IN OUR JUDICIAL
SYSTEM AND THE DOJ AND I THINK
U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR HAS
STARTED TAKING VERY IMPORTANT
INITIAL STEPS SINCE TAKING
OFFICE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR
AND I THINK THINGS ARE HEADING
IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.
MARIA: AND JOHN DURHAM'S
INVESTIGATION IS A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE MICHAEL
HOROWITZ REPORT, THE IG REPORT
COMING OUT WE UNDERSTAND
DECEMBER 9th.
WHAT SHOULD OUR VIEWERS
UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE IG REPORT,
THE FORTH COMING IG REPORT, WHAT
DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TELL
EVERYBODY.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, MARIA, I WAS
NEVER GIVEN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY OR GET INTERVIEWED BY
ANYONE.
MARIA: YOU NEVER SPOKE TO
MICHAEL HOROWITZ.
>> I NEVER SPOKE TO HIM OR ANY
MEMBER OF HIS TEAM.
THEY ALLEGEDLY FLEW OVER THE
LONDON TO SPENT TIME WITH THE
DNC CONSULTANT, CHRISTOPHER
STEELE, HE HAD HIS SAY.
MARIA: CHRIS TOSSER STEELE IS
THE AUTHOR OF THE DOSE USMCA.
>> ONE
-- ONE
--DOONE
--DOSSE
--DOSSIER.
>> ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE
DOSSIER.
AS SOME OF THE INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISTS HAVE STARTED TO FIND
THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
MARIA: JOHN SOLOMON REPORTED
THAT AS WELL WHAM
THAT AS WELL.WHAM
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO
LEARN.
WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE
FRAMING OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
TEAM.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO APPROVE
THAT IN THE IG REPORT?
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE
MOST DAMNING FROM YOUR
STANDPOINT?
>> I WISH I COULD TELL YOU.
UNFORTUNATELY, ACCORDING TO THE
PRIVACY ACT OF 1974, IF THERE'S
A SYSTEM OF RECORDS ABOUT
SOMEONE, THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED
TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENTS
AND ASK FOR EDITS TO IT.
I WAS NEVER GIVEN THAT CHANCE.
SO IT'S HARD TO SAY.
BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE STEP IN
A VERY LONG PROCESS.
I'M SO APPRECIATIVE THAT SENATE
JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN LINDSEY
GRAHAM AND HIS COMMITTEE ARE
GOING TO TAKE --
MARIA: MICHAEL HOROWITZ ON
DECEMBER 11th.
SO WE'VE GOT THE DAILY NEWS HERE
AND THE TITLE IS SHAME ON GOP
SHAM.
THIS IS RUSSIA EXPERT SLAMMING
REPUBLICAN FICTION TO DEFEND
TRUMP AS DEMS REST IMPEACHMENT
CASE.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT FIONA
HILL AND TELL ME ABOUT HER
RELATIONSHIP AS YOU KNOW THEM TO
THE PLAYERS IN THE RUSSIA
FRAMING.
THE COLLUSION FRAMING.
>> I'VE BEEN A RUSSIA SCHOLAR
FOR MANY DECADES NOW.
I ONLY MET HER ONCE.
SHE'S FROM ENGLAND ORIGINALLY
AND I MET HER AT A THINK TANK IN
LONDON ONCE A DECADE AND-A-HALF
AGO.
MARIA: SHE ALSO KNOWS
CHRISTOPHER STEELE.
>> YES.
ANOTHER BRIT, SOMEONE WHO IS
FROM THE U.K. WHO -- AND THEY,
YOU KNOW, SHE'S FROM THE
BROOKINGS INSTITUTION AND
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
INVOLVEMENT.
WE KEEP LEARNING MORE AND MORE
ABOUT BROOKINGS' INVOLVEMENT AND
STROBE TALBOT WHO I ALSO HAVE
SPENT SOME TIME WITH IN THE
PAST, HE'S SOMEONE WHO HAS --
MARIA: CONNECT THE DOTS, THE
UKRAINE HEARINGS TO THE RUSSIA
COLLUSION INVESTIGATION, WHAT
SHOULD WE KNOW ABOUT THE
CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO?
>> TO ME, IT'S THE EXACT SAME
THING, WHERE CONGRESSMAN NUNES
AND HIS TEAM, CONGRESSMAN
JORDAN, CONGRESSMAN RATCLIFFE,
THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE STORY.
MARIA: RIGHT.
>> THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED
TO --
MARIA: WHAT IS THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE STORY?
>> I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING,
JUST LIKE THEN CHAIRMAN NUNES
DID WITH THE NUNES MEMO AND WHAT
THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE'S VERY DEEP
INVESTIGATIONS, THEY UNVEILED
ALL OF THIS WRONG-DOING BY THE
DNC, THEIR CONSULTANTS AND THEIR
LAWYERS AND UNFORTUNATELY
THERE'S BEEN A BIG COVERUP AND
NOTHING HAS BEEN FULLY DISCLOSED
AS OF YET.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING
ONCE AGAIN AS A WAY OF DAMAGING
PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THIS SCHIFF
SHOW.
MARIA: WE WILL LEAVE IT THERE.
YOU'VE GOT A BIG COURT DATE
AHEAD.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO LEAVE US
WITH AHEAD OF THIS COURT
APPEARANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING
DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW?
>> WELL, I JUST THANK YOU, MARIA
AND YOUR TEAM AT FOX BECAUSE YOU
HAVE EXPOSED THE TRUTH.
WHEN ALL OF THESE OTHER MEDIA
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN TRYING
TO THROW OUT THIS FAKE DNC,
DEMOCRAT PROPAGANDA AND LIES,
YOU AND A HANDFUL OF OTHERS HAVE
REALLY DONE AMAZING WORK.
SO IT'S LITERALLY BEEN A LIFE
SAVER MF THANK