BURG, I DON’T TO SEE THEM OBTAIN
A BENEFIT FROM THE INFORMATION
THEY WOULD GLEAN FROM THIS
TELEVISION SHOW.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ALLEN
WEISSELBERG, YOU HEARD HIS
FORMER DAUGHTER-IN-LAW TELLING
TOM WINTER THAT HE COULD BE THE
ULTIMATE TOUR GUIDE THROUGH THE
SYSTEM AND OF COURSE A LOT OF
PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU’D BE THE
ULTIMATE TOUR GUIDE.
TELL ME ABOUT WEISSELBERG AND
WHAT HE MAY HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU
ALREADY KNOW.
>> SO ALLEN WEISSELBERG IS THE
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF THE
CHUP ORGANIZATION.
HE IS BY FAR THE LONGEST SERVING
AND ACTING EXECUTIVE AT THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION, BASICALLY
FRED TRUMP TOLD DONALD TO TAKE
ALLEN WEISSELBERG REALLY BECAUSE
FRED DIDN’T TRUST DONALD WITH
THE MONEY THAT HE WAS LOANING
HIM IN ORDER TO GET INTO
BUSINESS AND ALLEN THEN
ULTIMATELY, WHO WAS THE
BOOKKEEPER, BECAME THE CFO AND
AS I SAID THE LONGEST SERVING
EXECUTIVE AT THE ORGANIZATION.
NOW, I DON’T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY
THAT ALLEN IS THE ROAD MAP TO
THE INVESTIGATION.
TRUTHFULLY WHATEVER THEY HAVE,
THEY HAVE.
WOULD IT BE BETTER TO HAVE THE
ACCOUNTANT?
ALWAYS, CONSIDERING THERE WAS
NOT A SINGLE DOLLAR IN AND NOT A
SINGLE DOLLAR OUT OF THAT
COMPANY THAT DID NOT CROSS
THROUGH ALLEN WEISSELBERG’S
DESK.
SO IN REGARD TO THE FINANCIAL
CRIMES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED
RIGHT NOW IN THE INVESTIGATION,
MANY OF WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN AT
MY OPEN TESTIMONY BEFORE THE
HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, IT
WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL FOR
ALLEN WEISSELBERG’S TESTIMONY.
BUT IT IS NOT FATAL TO THEIR
INVESTIGATION.
REMEMBER, THEY JUST OBTAINED
MORE THAN A MILLION PAGES OF
DOCUMENTS, EIGHT YEARS WORTH OF
MR. TRUMP’S AND THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION’S TAX RETURNS.
THAT’S THE -- THAT’S THE REAL
ROAD MAP THERE, AND MANY PEOPLE,
INCLUDING THE COMPANIES THAT
THEY BROUGHT IN, ARE ABLE TO
DECIPHER IT.
MYSELF INCLUDED.
YOU DON’T NEED TO CHARGE HIM ON
20 ISSUES.
ALL YOU NEED IS ONE.
AND BELIEVE ME, THEY HAVE MORE
THAN ONE.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION FOR ALLEN,
AS I HAD STATED TO JANE MAYOR,
IF -- UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEND
SOME TIME IN A CAMP LIKE I DID
AND YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR BOYS AT
RISK, I’M PRETTY SURE THAT HE’LL
BE PROVIDING INFORMATION TO THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
AND LOOK, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY
LIKE MARK POMERANTZ WHO IS A
SEASONED VETERAN WHEN IT COMES
TO THIS TYPE OF LITIGATION, HE’S
BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE,
A TOUGH NOSED PROSECUTOR AND A
HARD NOSED DEFENDER, HE KNOWS
THE GAME BETTER THAN ANYBODY AND
I CAN’T IMAGINE WHO THEY’RE
GOING TO BRING IN ORDER TO
CHALLENGE HIS CAPABILITIES.
>> SO POMERANTZ KNOWS THE GAME
BETTER THAN ANYONE, YOU KNOW
WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, TRUMP
ORGANIZATION BETTER THAN ANYONE,
YOU AND ALLEN WEISSELBERG.
DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT
POMERANTZ HAS THE INFORMATION HE
NEEDS AND A GOOD UNDERSTANDING
OF WHAT THIS TAKES?
IT DOES SOUND LIKE THEY’VE GOT
MORE THAN A MILLION PAGES OF
DOCUMENTS, YOU SAID THEY HAVE
WHAT THEY HAVE.
DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE WHAT THEY
NEED, AND THAT POMERANTZ KNOWS
WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
>> I’M CERTAIN ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, AS I’VE ALWAYS SAID,
PAPER DOESN’T LIE.
INDIVIDUALS DO.
SO NO MATTER WHAT DONALD TRUMP
IS GOING TO TRY TO CLAIM, THE
PAGES DON’T LIE.
YOU ALSO HAVE MAIZER.
YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNTING FIRM
THAT WAS DOING IT.
AGAIN, DOES IT MAKE THE CHAIN OF
INFORMATION EASIER TO UNDERSTAND
WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED?
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU BROUGHT UP
THE STORMY DANIELS PAYMENT.
AS I MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR DURING
MY STATEMENT PRIOR TO
INCARCERATION BEFORE JUDGE
WILLIAM H. POLYWHICH SADLY WENT
MOSTLY IGNORED ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I SAID IS THAT I DID THIS
AT THE DIRECTION OF AND FOR THE
BENEFIT OF DONALD J. TRUMP.
BUT WHAT I ALSO INCLUDED IS THE
FACT THAT ALLEN WEISSELBERG WAS
A PARTY TO MY CONVERSATIONS WITH
MR. TRUMP, HENCE THE RECORDING
THAT WAS ULTIMATELY PUT OUT ON
CNN WHEN RUDY GIULIANI CLAIMED
CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE, OF
COURSE, NOT TRUE.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
IT’S RUDY.
SO ALLEN WEISSELBERG WAS A PARTY
TO THAT.
THE MORE PEOPLE THAT -- IF YOU
CAN GET EVERYBODY THAT WAS
INVOLVED, IT’S CERTAINLY BETTER.
BUT IT’S NOT THE END ALL, BE
ALL.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS,
ALI, ALSO, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY REACH OUT TO
ME AND SAY, OH, IF YOU HAVE THE
GOODS, YOU KNOW, DROP IT, GIVE
IT, SPILL IT.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THAT WATCH
THIS SHOW AND WATCH YOU, THAT
ARE INTERESTED IN ME SITTING
HERE AND SPILLING ALL OF THE
INFORMATION.
AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHEN I SAY
THAT I CAN’T DO THAT OR I CAN DO
IT, I JUST CHOOSE NOT TO SIMPLY
BECAUSE IT DOESN’T HELP THE --
IT DOESN’T HELP THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY AND IT DOESN’T HELP THE
INVESTIGATION IN ORDER TO HOLD
THOSE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR
THEIR OWN DIRTY DEEDS.
AND THAT’S ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY I HAVE NOW SPENT EIGHT
SESSIONS, EIGHT DIFFERENT
SESSIONS GOING BACK OVER A YEAR
AND A HALF, CLOSER TO TWO YEARS,
WHEN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FIRST
CAME TO OTISVILLE TO INTERVIEW
ME.
AFTER EIGHT TIMES THEY’RE NOT
ASKING ME TO COME IN ONCE AGAIN
FOR A NINETY TIME SIMPLY BECAUSE
THEY FIND ME FUNNY OR BECAUSE
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO, EACH
AND EVERY TIME THEY’RE DRILLING
DOWN MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AND ULTIMATELY --
>> WHY DID YOU GO IN PERSON THIS
TIME?
>> YOU’RE GOING TO SEE VERY SOON
IN MY OPINION INDICTMENTS START
FLYING.
>> SO WHY DID YOU NEED TO GO IN
PERSON THIS TIME, WHAT WAS
DIFFERENT?
>> WELL, LIKE I SAID, THERE’S
OVER A MILLION DOCUMENTS, AND
REST ASSURED THERE’S ONE THING I
CAN TELL YOU ABOUT CY VANCE AND
MARK POMERANTZ AND THE ENTIRE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TEAM.
THEY ARE WELL ORGANIZED.
THEY ARE DISCIPLINED.
THEY ARE METHODICAL IN THEIR
QUESTIONING, IN THEIR
DOCUMENTATION.
I MEAN, THERE WAS MORE PAPER
THERE, ALL TABULATED AND THREE
RING BOOKS.
YOU KNOW, ITEMIZED FOR QUESTIONS
THAT THEY WANTED TO POSE BY ME.
THERE WAS MORE THAN YOU WOULD
POSSIBLY EVEN IMAGINE.
IT WAS LIKE A PAPER VAULT OF
INFORMATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE’S A LOT OF
DOCUMENTATION, AND, LOOK, RIGHT
NOW I’M ON HOME CONFINEMENT SO I
CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF FREE
TIME TO HEAD DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW,
TO SIT WITH THEM AND ONE OF THE
REASONS I’M DOING THIS, I WILL
NOT BE THE VILLAIN OF DONALD
TRUMP’S STORY.
THEY NEED TO ALL BE HELD