WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT DENIED WHAT WAS WRITTEN
ABOUT HIS COMMENTS ON TRUMP, THAT'S SAM NUNBERG.
>>SAM NUNBERG, A FORMER LONGTIME ADVISOR TO DONALD TRUMP, WAS
ASKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE CALLED TRUMP AN IDIOT, WHICH WAS
REPORTED IN MICHAEL WOLFF'S NEW BOOK, FIRE AND FURY, AND WHAT HE
TOLD ABC'S THE BRIEFING ROOM WAS INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
>>I HAVEN'T SEEN, WHERE WAS IT WRITTEN THAT I CALLED HIM
AN IDIOT?
>>IT'S IN THE BOOK, ABC NEWS OBTAINED A COPY AND THAT IS FROM
THE BOOK.
ONE OF THE QUOTES IS, IS TRUMP A GOOD PERSON, AN
INTELLIGENT PERSON?
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW HE'S A STAR.
ANOTHER ONE, STEVE BANNON, IF YOU COULD GET THIS IDIOT ELECTED
TWICE YOU COULD GO DOWN IN HISTORY.
>>I MAY HAVE SAID THAT AS A JOKE.
I THINK KAREN KNOWS ME
WELL, I'M FROM NEW YORK AND I'M VERY SARCASTIC, I WOULD TELL YOU
--
I CERTAINLY PROBABLY SAID THAT BUT HE'S BY NO MEANS AN IDIOT.
>>HE'S SAYING HE WAS JOKING, BEING SARCASTIC.
>>I LOVE THE QUOTE, I CERTAINLY PROBABLY SAID THAT.
IN OTHER
WORDS, YES YOU DEFINITELY SAID THAT.
LET'S BREAK DOWN THAT JOKE
FOR A SECOND, AT THE RISK OF OVER ANALYZING, BUT IT'S AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE, TRUMP IS THE MOST POWERFUL GUY ON EARTH SO DO
THE PEOPLE NEXT TO HIM THINK HE'S AN IDIOT?
THE PEOPLE WHO
HELPED GET HIM ELECTED, LIKE SAM NUNBERG?
IF YOU GET THIS IDIOT
ELECTED TWICE YOU ARE AMAZING.
WHERE IS THE JOKE?
>>NOT THAT IT'S A ONE-LINER BUT JUST THAT IT'S SORT OF LIKE, IF
YOU CAN GET THIS IDIOT ELECTED -- I WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT YOU.
IF THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS IDIOT A SHOW, THAT'S THE
JOKING SIDE OF IT.
>>I
GET IT BUT YOU WOULD ONLY USE THAT AS A JOKE IF YOU THOUGHT
THE GUY WAS REALLY SMART, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE FUNNY.
LIKE BILL GATES, IF THIS IDIOT CAN START A COMPANY.
>>BUT HE'S NOW SAYING HE THINKS TRUMP IS SMART, SO HE'S
SAYING IF YOU CAN GET THIS IDIOT ELECTED.
>>THAT'S FAIR.
DOES ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE THAT?
>>THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT COMMENT WAS TO GIVE BANNON
CREDIT FOR GETTING TRUMP ELECTED, RIGHT?
IF YOU CAN GET
THIS IDIOT ELECTED TWICE YOU ARE AMAZING OR WHATEVER, HE'S
BASICALLY GIVING BANNON COMPLEMENT THERE BECAUSE IT'S
LIKE, WHOA, YOU GOT HIM ELECTED ONCE, IF YOU COULD DO THIS
TWICE, INCREDIBLE.
>>THAT'S THE VERY COMMONSENSE READING OF THAT QUOTE.
IF YOU
THOUGHT DONALD TRUMP WAS AN OBVIOUS GENIUS AND YOU ARE
KIDDING ABOUT HOW STEVE BANNON SHOULDN'T GET ANY CREDIT, THEN
YOU WOULD SAY IF YOU CAN GET THIS IDIOT STIGLITZ TWO NOBEL
PRIZES THAT WILL BE AMAZING.
BY THE WAY HE DOES HAVE TWO NOBEL PRIZES.
>>THE OTHER THING IS NOBODY IN THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE, PEOPLE
WHO LIKE HIM, ARE SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO GET THIS IDIOT ELECTED
TWICE?
>>WE ARE BEING RIDICULOUSLY OVER-THE-TOP FAIR IN TRYING TO
FIGURE IT OUT, OF COURSE IT'S NOT A JOKE, OF COURSE HE
THINKS HE'S AN IDIOT.
>>THE OTHER PART ABOUT NUNBERG AND THE BOOK HAS TO DO WITH HOW
NUNBERG ALLEGEDLY TRIED TO TEACH TRUMP ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION BUT
COULDN'T CAPTURE HIS ATTENTION LONG ENOUGH TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN
HIS EFFORTS.
NUNBERG ADDRESSES THAT IN THIS PART OF THE VIDEO.
>>YOU ARE QUOTED REFERRING TO THE PRESIDENT AS THIS IDIOT, YOU
SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T SAY WHETHER HE'S A GOOD PERSON OR A
CAPABLE PERSON, BUT HE'S A CELEBRITY.
AND YOU RECOUNT AN
INTERESTING STORY WHERE YOU WERE BROUGHT IN TO EXPLAIN THE
CONSTITUTION AND YOU SAY I GOT AS FAR AS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT
BEFORE HIS FINGER WAS PULLING ON HIS LIP AND HIS EYES ARE ROLLING
BACK IN HIS HEAD.
DID MICHAEL WOLFF QUOTE YOU CORRECTLY?
>>I DIDN'T SEE THOSE QUOTES AS YOU SAID BUT I CALLED HIM AN
IDIOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT I CAN TELL YOU, FOR INSTANCE, I
DID SIT WITH MICHAEL, I'M NOT OUT HERE TO CRITICIZE MICHAEL,
BUT I THINK MICHAEL USED FLOURISH, I'LL PUT IT, ON THE
EVENTS I DESCRIBED.
FOR INSTANCE, I WASN'T THERE, AND I
TOLD THIS TO MICHAEL, TO TEACH THE PRESIDENT THE CONSTITUTION.
THE PRESIDENT HAD A GRANULAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE
CONSTITUTION THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH.
WHAT I WAS THEREFORE WAS
IT WAS AROUND EIGHT DAYS BEFORE THE FIRST DEBATE AND I DIDN'T
WANT ANY GOTCHA QUESTIONS.
THERE WERE QUESTIONS FROM 2008 WERE
CHRIS MATTHEWS ASKED RUDY GIULIANI WHAT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A SUNNI AND A SHIA WAS.
SO I JUST WANTED IN CASE THERE
WAS A GOTCHA QUESTION ON THE CONSTITUTION, I HAD A 1 1/2 PAGE
CRIB SHEET AND TRIED TO GO OVER SOME ISSUES.
>>ONCE AGAIN, DOESN'T DENY THE QUOTE AT ALL.
HE SAYS HE USED
FLOURISH.
>>YOU SHOULD SKIP FROM THE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT TO THE
25TH.
WHY SHOULD TRUMP WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S IN BETWEEN?
AND I LIKE WHERE HE SAYS HE HAD A GRANULAR UNDERSTANDING OF
THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS GOOD ENOUGH.
IT'S NOT LIKE HE IS PRESIDENT.
>>AND THAT ALSO DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, GRANULAR MEANS HE
UNDERSTANDS IT DETAILED.
YOU WOULDN'T SAY, LIKE, EINSTEIN HAS
A GRANULAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE RELATIVITY OF PHYSICS AND IT'S
GOOD ENOUGH.
OF COURSE IT'S GOOD ENOUGH, HE HAS A GRANULAR UNDERSTANDING.
MAYBE ALL THESE GUYS ARE IDIOTS.
>>HE'S BACK ON HIS HEELS.
WHENEVER I HEAR ANYONE SAY WE
ARE FROM NEW YORK SO WE SPEAK -- I'M FROM NEW YORK, AND PEOPLE
FROM NEW YORK ALSO GIVE REAL ANSWERS.
THEY ARE MAKING EXCUSES
AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD ONE.
>>IF YOU SAID I'M FROM NEW YORK SO I USE COLORFUL LANGUAGE, NO
PROBLEM.
I CURSE.
THAT'S FINE.
I JOKE AROUND, THAT'S FINE.
BUT
WHERE IS THE FRICKIN' JOKE?
>>AND IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, NOT THAT HE NEEDS ONE, I'M JUST
SAYING IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN IT AWAY, THAT IT'S LIKE LOCKER
ROOM TALK.
IT'S LIKE NEW YORK TALK.
>>AND IF YOU HEARD WHAT HE SAID, I WAS TRYING TO GET HIM READY
FOR THE DEBATE, IN OTHER WORDS I WANT HIM TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THE
CONSTITUTION, AND I WAS PRETTY SURE HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
DO YOU HAVE TO GO OVER THE CONSTITUTION WITH BARACK OBAMA?
NORMAL PREP, ETC., WHATEVER, BUT HE NEVER DENIED THAT TRUMP LOST
HIS ATTENTION AND COULDN'T GET PAST THE FOURTH AMENDMENT
BECAUSE HE DIDN'T CARE.
>>SINCE YOU MENTIONED OBAMA IT TRIGGERED SOMETHING THAT
HONESTLY FRUSTRATES ME THE MOST OF EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S THE INSANE DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN IT
CAME TO OBAMA VERSUS TRUMP.
THE FACT THAT IF OBAMA DISPLAYED
EVEN A TINY FRACTION OF THE IGNORANCE THAT TRUMP DISPLAYS ON
A REGULAR BASIS, THERE WOULD BE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS
IMMEDIATELY.
I'M EXAGGERATING BUT WE WOULDN'T STOP HEARING
ABOUT IT.
OBAMA RELEASED HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND WE CAN'T
GET TRUMP TO RELEASE HIS TAX FORMS.
THEY WOULDN'T DROP THAT
ISSUE, THEY STILL DON'T, THEY STILL THINK HE'S SOME
UNDOCUMENTED MUSLIM THAT MANAGED TO SCAM HIS WAY INTO THE
PRESIDENCY.
BUT WITH TRUMP WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO SEE HIS TAX
RETURNS, HE WON'T RELEASE THEM.
THAT DOUBLE STANDARD DRIVE ME
CRAZY.
THE FACT THAT HE GETS AWAY WITH ACTING HOW HE ACTS BUT
OBAMA WOULD GET CRITICIZED FOR MUSTARD ON HIS BURGER OR
WHATEVER.
>>LOOK WHAT TRUMP SAID TO BILLY BUSH, LOOK WHAT HE SAID
SUPPOSEDLY IN THIS BOOK ABOUT THE WIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
FRIENDS OF HIS.
FORGET OBAMA, RONALD REAGAN, THE APEX OF
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS RECENTLY, THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD HAVE
LET ANYBODY GET AWAY WITH THIS.
FOR SOME REASON HE DOES.
>>KEEP IT REAL, IF THERE WAS A CREDIBLE STORY ABOUT HOW OBAMA
WOULD SCREW OVER HIS FRIENDS TO TRY TO SLEEP WITH THEIR WIVES --
>>DONE.
>>NOT ONLY DONE, BUT THINK ABOUT THE STEREOTYPES THEY WOULD
BRING INTO PLAY.
>>WHAT, THAT MUSLIMS -- OH.
>>AND THEN, THINK ABOUT IF OBAMA WAS ONE PERCENT IN THE
DIRECTION OF DONALD TRUMP'S STUPIDITY, THE STEREOTYPES THEY
WOULD SAY.
IF TRUMP WAS THIS STUPID, IF TRUMP SAID PUERTO
RICO IS AN ISLAND SURROUNDED BY WATER, BIG WATER, OCEAN WATER,
WHAT WOULD THEY SAY ABOUT HIM?
THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND.
>>ALSO SOME STATEMENTS THAT COME FROM TRUMP, LIKE THE BIG WATER
STATEMENT, HONESTLY REMINDED ME OF SARAH PALIN'S INTERVIEW WITH
KATIE COURIC AND HOW SHE SAID SHE COULD SEE RUSSIA FROM HER
HOUSE AND HOW MUCH CRITICISM SHE GOT FOR THAT, AND IT'S
INTERESTING HOW THEY HELD SARAH PALIN TO A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD
THAN THEY ARE TO TRUMP.
TRUMP CAN MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS ON A
REGULAR BASIS AND HE'S STILL CONSIDERED SMART BY HIS BASE,
BUT THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE QUICK TO CRITICIZE THE
INTELLIGENCE OF SARAH PALIN.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND PALIN'S
INTELLIGENCE, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE ISSUES THERE AS WELL, OR AT
LEAST KNOWLEDGE -- I DON'T KNOW IF INTELLIGENCE IS THE RIGHT
WORD.
>>SHE'S AN IDIOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SEXISM OR IF IT'S JUST
THAT THE STANDARDS FOR REPUBLICANS HAVE REGRESSED SO
FAR FROM BUSH TO PALIN TO TRUMP, BUT ANA IS RIGHT ABOUT THE
SUBSTANCE OF THAT.
PALIN IS DEFINITELY SMARTER THAN TRUMP,
IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
IT MIGHT BE THE REGRESSION, IT MIGHT BE
SEXISM, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT A TON OF BRICKS CAME DOWN ON
PALIN, I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE, BUT TWO TONS OF BRICKS SHOULD
COME DOWN ON TRUMP, HE'S WAY DUMBER THAN PALIN.
AND THAT IS A SENTENCE THAT PREVIOUSLY
WAS UNIMAGINABLE.