The Democrats are blackmailing us.
It's like, oh, if you don't vote for Biden, Trump will come.
So what have Biden done to us as a.
Significant voice in the Arab American community?
You're telling me you want Joe Biden? I want him to lose.
I don't care about Trump winning, but I want Joe Biden to him because
this guy, this guy, he's one of he they we all we asked for him his ceasefire.
Stop the killing. Stop the killing.
How how difficult is this?
I'm not going to be blackmailed into saying that.
I'm going to be enabled Trump to to win. The Democrats did that to themselves.
Now, you might think that what Egyptian American comedian Bassem Youssef
just said was wrong or irresponsible, given the threat that Trump poses
to the country and to Muslims.
But many Arab Americans are actually feeling the exact same way.
He is, including a Trump supporter that a TV reporter Michael Shaw,
spoke to and interviewed in Michigan during a Trump rally.
Now, this is from a few weeks ago, but I think what this individual had
to say was important to to listen to, not because you are likely going to agree
with him, but to understand the argument by Muslim Americans or Arab Americans
who might decide to not cast a ballot for the general election at all,
or might even switch over to Donald Trump.
Let's listen. I'm from.
Yemen originally. I was born in America, but I'm from Yemen.
This is this is how we dress. Back then.
We, a lot of the a lot of the Arabs actually used to support
the Democratic Party, until all the weird stuff that's been going on.
So we references weird stuff.
Like what weird stuff is going on, you might ask?
Well, he explains in this next clip, Biden's dead.
He can't walk. He can't talk.
So really, if it was anybody against Biden, I'd vote for them anyway.
But I'm a big Donald Trump supporter. He's a great man.
He's he's a gangster.
So any of the other countries know if Trump's in office,
they're not acting up with Biden.
He's sleeping. You know, no one.
I don't think anyone's really scared of him.
Obama and, and Biden bombed Yemen very heavily, but because because Obama
said Mashallah, he said Arabic word people supported him and thought he was with us.
He really wasn't. He was bombing.
He drone bombed Yemen more than any other president.
So he's specifically referencing Biden's foreign policy.
He's talking about how Biden's been bombing Yemen during this, war in Gaza.
And what I found really interesting was how Donald Trump seems to be paying close
attention to some of this rhetoric because during his speech following the Supreme
Court's ruling to allow him on primary ballots in states that tried to disqualify
him, he referenced the bombing in Yemen.
People coming from all parts of the Middle East, the coming from Yemen.
And yet you are bombing Yemen.
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So, Jake, as we know, Donald Trump was not friendly to Muslims in his turn.
One of the first things that he did was attempt to ban Muslims
from coming into the United States.
That caused a huge controversy and multiple court battles.
But I think it's also important to understand the perspective
of that Yemeni American who sees Biden's foreign policy and kind of takes a step
back and says, I don't I mean, really you think that Biden's a lot better
than Trump on the treatment of Muslims or the treatment of Arabs?
Yeah.
So first, let's tackle the Muslim American perspective, and then I'll get
to his general perspective in a second.
So both for Bassem Youssef and the Trump supporter, they're they're
like, well, okay, so let's get this right.
Obama did more drone strikes in Muslim countries than any president did,
but I'm supposed to really like him.
Okay.
Yes, maybe you like him, but I'm from Yemen
and he did massive drone strikes in Yemen.
And then, you know, and by the way, the US government allowed
Saudi Arabia to pulverize Yemen. And so.
Oh, because we wanted the oil deals with Saudi Arabia.
So then Biden gets in the office and he lets the Israelis, pulverize Gaza.
So tell me why I have to support Biden? Because it helps you.
Who does it help? It. Oh, it helps his donors.
And maybe you think that it helps you, right?
You liked one of the bills that he passed. Or you don't like Trump?
He's like, yes, but a lot of Arab Americans are saying, yes,
but he killed my family members.
So you're going to kill my aunt and uncle and tell me I have to vote for you.
I have to vote for you. I don't think you're getting it.
And the reason why there's a disconnect is because in DC and an establishment
Democrats and establishment media, there is this line of thought
that the voters must vote for Democrats.
And if they don't and the Democrats lose, it's the voters fault.
And no matter what Democrats serve up, that's the part
that really gets to me, right?
Because it's, hey, don't you dare bring up all of the different reasons why you are
unhappy with the candidate or why you're unhappy with the Democratic policies.
Doesn't matter. None of that matters.
Orange man bad. Very dangerous for the country.
You absolutely must accept whatever we serve up in the Democratic Party.
And look, Norm, most people don't operate that way.
Yeah, and they just they don't think that it is a responsible responsibility
of Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or any of these guys to earn the votes.
Right?
They think, no, they're entitled to the votes.
And how dare you oppose them by not voting for them when they're on our side.
But whose side? Brother?
Whose side?
If you live in Washington DC, yes, Biden is very much on your side.
But if you're that guy, he's not on your side.
Why?
Look, I'm sorry, but if you live in DC, are you thick?
You have problems understanding.
You kill someone's family member. They're not going to vote for you.
Is that complicated? Do I have to really emphasize that point?
And I do, because they're like, it's his fault that Biden is losing.
No, it's Biden's fault that Biden is losing such simple concepts,
and they just can't grasp it because it's an enormous sense of entitlement.
I'm entitled to your vote and your vote and your vote, even if I never do anything
for you, even if I kill your family, I'm still entitled to your vote.
Look, the selling point for Biden, especially in 2020, when he claimed that
he was only going to run for that one time and be a transitional president was that
he is the decent human being in the race.
Right? I'm the decent one.
And yeah, you know, you might hate policies that he championed
in his long political career, including the bankruptcy bill, the crime bill.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
But the whole point was you put him up against Donald Trump.
You compare the two go with the person who seems to be, a decent human being.
Right? Comparatively speaking.
Well, that argument falls apart when you see the bloodshed among civilians in Gaza.
It's really hard to stomach that and still make the same argument
that Biden is just a significantly more decent person than Donald Trump is.
Yeah.
Look, if you live in Washington, prepare to be outraged.
I don't think Joe Biden's a decent person at all.
I can't I can't accept anyone who argues that he is.
How do you see those?
Look, I. Like I've said on the show before, like the hardest thing about
talking about that story, about what's happening in Gaza is the insult to injury,
that the reactions that you get from people after you've seen the faces
of those malnourished children, after you, after you see parents weeping
over the dead bodies of their children, like, how do you take in those images?
And then after that, provide cover for the president, who insists on providing
military aid and support to the government and the military carrying out those acts.
How do you still support that guy? How do you do it?
So, I mean, Biden sees those same pictures.
He has access to intelligence we don't even have access to.
He sees all of this death, destruction, all those babies murdered, killed.
And he goes, let's send them 14 billion more.
And then with a straight face, his supporters argue he's the good guy.
- He's the good. - Guy.
He's not.
So that's not to say that Trump is the good guy, but to argue that Biden is
this angel and Donald Trump is a demon, you know, he's he's indecent, he's awful.
But Biden, what an angel. Know.
It's just it's frustrating to hear that kind of framing when we see with our
own two eyes what's happening right now.
So that's the second thing that's super frustrating that people
in Washington think in binary terms.
I guess they're very slow.
So us populists have to talk to them like they're children.
Just because you think Joe Biden is a monster doesn't mean you think
that Donald Trump is an angel.
They could both be monsters. Oh, and there's such you know why?
It's they create this binary world because they're not doing actual news.
They're not being honest with you. They're doing propaganda.
So that's why right wing media will tell you that Trump's an angel and Biden's a
devil, and mainstream media will tell you that Joe Biden is a sweet, empathetic man
and Donald Trump is the devil, right?
Everything is binary because they're not doing truth.
They're doing propaganda. So now, last things here.
Back to this guy. He made an interesting point.
So Trump is a terrible on Muslim issues, arguably worse than Joe Biden.
He tried to create a war in the Middle East several times,
killing the top Iranian general and moving our embassy in Israel, etc.
He wanted to ban all Muslims from the country.
He doesn't get any worse than that in terms of Donald Trump.
But the guy from Yemen or his family is originally from Yemen
that Michael was talking to.
He said in another part of that interview, which which you should check out,
by the way, youtube.com slash the Young Turks, he said, you know,
the thing about Trump, though, is he could be bought like he he really likes
the Saudis because the Saudis pay him off.
We actually have that clip. It's a short one.
- Why don't we watch that real quick? - Yeah, he does say some crazy things.
And for me it doesn't bother me.
Sometimes it's funny, but a lot of people, words matter to them.
To me, it's your policy and what you're doing.
You can say, I hate all you Muslims. This isn't that whatever.
And then you don't do you don't do the bad things.
Then to me, it doesn't matter. You're just talking.
You're just.
You just want a certain crowd to vote for you.
That's cool. You know, it's it's all part of the game.
So you're not bothered when he says that he wants a ban on Muslims in this country?
No, because I don't think he I don't think he actually believes that he he's
very cool with the Saudis and the people in Abu Dhabi and stuff like that.
And he's done a lot of business with them.
So I don't think I think that's for, a lot of his fan base that,
that want that because it sounds crazy.
You can't ban a religion, you know.
No, I know, but I mean, you're aligning yourself with that fan base that do want
that that seriously do want that.
So you're voting for, you know.
Well I there's always going to be different types of voters.
So those people no matter what he does okay.
Let's say Trump did something really bad and bombed my country and was my my home
country and, you know, was if he, if he was actually doing stuff that I didn't
like, I wouldn't want to vote for him.
So he's not like a hardcore MAGA guy.
Clearly, he could be dissuaded from supporting Donald Trump,
which I thought was interesting as well.
Although quick point here, I've now begun to see some hardcore MAGA guys potentially
including him saying, yeah, I'm MAGA, I'm not necessarily just pro Trump.
And that's a distinction that I never seen before.
So that gives me a little bit of hope that the cult is cracking a little bit.
And also one point of clarification that's incredibly important.
Remember, during Trump's Terme, there was a bipartisan resolution to pull U.S.
Military support toward Saudi Arabia in its bombing of Yemen.
- And Donald Trump came in and vetoed it. - Yeah.
So Donald Trump, I don't want anybody to mistake what we're saying.
Michael's right in that line of questioning.
He associates with people who despise Muslims and wants to get their vote,
and he caters to them, etc..
And it doesn't appease me much that he's also corrupt and bought off by the Saudis.
That doesn't appease me at all.
And I think that Trump is just about as bad as it gets.
Not just generally, but on specifically on this issue.
And he also bought off by Sheldon Adelson in the last couple of elections.
He's begging.
Mary Madison to get bribed by her to serve Israel's interests.
Jared Kushner, you know, seem to be working both the Israelis
and the Saudis, depending on who he's getting paid by, etc..
So, look, it's it's a Hobson's choice. These are two terrible, terrible choices.
Our point isn't that Trump is better on this issue.
Our point is stop yelling at Arab and Muslim American voters and listen
and actually do something for them.
And and the bar is so low, like, could you please not fund a genocide?
And if you can't clear that bar, then don't think that you're entitled
to anyone's vote.