WILL NOT SELL THE NAME FOCUS IN
SHOWROOMS IN THE UNITED STATES.
MUCH.
OKAY, TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS,
JOINING ME, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR
AND CO-AUTHOR OF "BORROWED TIME"
JAMES FREEMAN ALONG WITH FORMER
UTAH CONGRESSMAN JASON CHAFFETZ
AND HEATHER ZUMARAGUS.
SOMETHING GOING, THE STORY
BREAKS, "TORONTO STAR" REPORTS
OFF THE RECORD COMMENTS.
THEM AND IN THAT, PRESIDENT
TRUMP SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO
COMPROMISE WITH CANADA.
HE ALSO SAYS APPARENTLY THEY HAD
NO CHOICE, THEY HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THIS.
THE TIMING OF THIS COULDN'T BE
WORSE, COULD IT?
>> WELL, IT ALWAYS GETS MORE
INTENSE AT THE FINISH LINE.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAYING SOMETHING
THAT DONALD TRUMP I THINK WOULD
ACTUALLY SAY, SAYING NO DEAL IS
BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL, AND
THAT'S THE REASON THE PRESIDENT
HAS BROUGHT THIS TO THE
FOREFRONT.
REMEMBER, IT CONTINUED ON IN
PERPETUITY.
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A DEADLINE.
ASHLEY: ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC A
TABLE HELPS TO PUSH CANADA.
YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
ASHLEY: JAMES, WHAT SAY YOU?
CERTAINLY IT'S A FLY IN THE
OINTMENT.
WE THOUGHT THEY WERE COMING
TOGETHER, THEY GOT THE DEAL DONE
WITH MEXICO AND NOW WE HAVE
COMMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT
HAVE SURFACED AND CANADIAN MEDIA
HAVING A FIELD DAY WITH IT.
>> I THINK POLITICIANS, REALLY
ANYBODY IN A NEGOTIATION, YOU
NEED TO GO BACK AND SHOW YOUR
JUST GOT RUN OVER.
I THINK THERE IS AN OBVIOUS
WIN/WIN HERE.
THAT IS THAT CANADA ALLOWS A
LITTLE EASIER TIME FOR U.S.
DAIRY PRODUCTS COMING IN AND MR.
TRUMP SAYS YES, WE'LL KEEP THAT
DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS THAT
CANADA LIKES BECAUSE LOOK, IF HE
GETS THE TRADE DEAL HE WANTS, HE
DOESN'T NEED TO KEEP PUTTING
TARIFFS ON.
HE'S TOLD US ALL ALONG THE
TARIFFS ARE TO FORCE THE DEAL HE
WANTS.
ONCE HE GETS IT, LET THEM HAVE
THAT RESOLUTION PROCESS WHICH
LIMITS THE ABILITY OF ANY OF
THESE COMPANIES TO PUT IN NEW
TARIFFS.
WITH THE CHINESE, THAT IN ORDER
TO BE ABLE TO FIND A DEAL, YOU
HAVE TO SAVE FACE FOR YOUR
OPPOSITION.
SOMETHING TRUDEAU CAN GO BACK TO
THE CANADIAN PUBLIC AND SAY
LOOK, WE DID WIN, WE GOT THIS.
>> RIGHT.
YOU MIGHT SAY EVEN MORE THAN THE
CHINESE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE
HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION IN
A FEW MONTHS AND MR. TRUDEAU HAS
AN ELECTION NEXT YEAR.
SO YES, THIS NEEDS TO BE
SOMETHING YOU CAN SELL TO THE
PUBLIC, BUT I THINK THE
IN THIS TREATY THAT THEY WANTED.
SOME OF IT, I WOULDN'T WANT, YOU
MIGHT NOT WANT, BUT IT'S NOT
LIKE CANADA GOT NOTHING IN THIS
DEAL.
THEY BACKED A LOT OF THE CHANGES
THAT ARE NOW PART OF IT ON THE
AUTO SIDE.
ASHLEY: THEY SHOULD COME TO THE
TABLE AND SIGN OFF.
HEATHER, YOU MAKE A POINT, 70%
OF CANADIAN EXPORTS GO TO THE
U.S.
ONLY 18% OF U.S. EXPORTS GO TO
CANADA.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY NEED THIS A
LOT MORE THAN WE DO.
THAT SHOULD GIVE US A PRETTY
STRONG POSITION.
>> IT SURE DOES, BUT AT THE END
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT CONGRESS
WANTS A TRILATERAL DEAL BETWEEN
U.S., MEXICO AND CANADA, AND
THEY IN THE END ULTIMATELY HAVE
CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY, NOT
JUST THE PRESIDENT, AND YOU'RE
RIGHT, CANADA HAS JUST AS MUCH
IF THE POINT OF CONTENTION IS
OVER HAVING A QUICK ARBITRATION
PROCESS, I THINK THAT CAN BE
SOLVED.
HOWEVER, IF IT'S OVER SPILLED
MILK, MEANING DAIRY PENALTIES
AND TARIFFS, OR IN YOUR CASE,
THEY WOULD SAY SPILT MILK, I'M
NOT SURE A TRADE WAR SHOULD
ENSUE OVER THAT.
CONCESSIONS NEED TO BE MADE IN
THAT CASE.
ASHLEY: LET'S FOLLOW UP WITH THE
BIGGER PICTURE.
WE GET A DEAL DONE WITH MEXICO
AND CANADA, GET SOMETHING DONE
WITH THE EU, ALL EYES THEN FOCUS
ON CHINA.
YOU THINK IT'S A PRETTY HIGH
STAKES KIND OF GAME OF CHICKEN
WE ARE PLAYING WITH CHINA, WITH
THE TARIFFS?
>> IT REALLY IS.
THE POINT WITH CHINA IS VERY
DIFFERENT FROM OUR GRIEVANCES
WITH CANADA AND MEXICO
PROTECTING U.S. AUTO MAKERS.
WITH CHINA IT'S MORE ABOUT
SUBSIDIES THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT
PROVIDES.
IT'S A DIFFERENT BALL GAME WITH
CHINA.
A LOT MOREA
A LOT MORE
A LOT MORE TA
A LOT MORE TARI
A LOT MORE TARIFF
A LOT MORE TARIFFS
A LOT MORE TARIFFS O
A LOT MORE TARIFFS ON THE
A LOT MORE TARIFFS ON THE TA
A LOT MORE TARIFFS ON THE TABL
A LOT MORE TARIFFS ON THE TABLE,
ANOTHER 25% COMING NEXT WEEK
PERHAPS BUT SO FAR, ONLY $50
BILLION WORTH OF GOODS FROM BOTH
SIDES AT A RATE OF 25% TAX OR
TARIFF RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK CHINA IS WATCHING BUT
THEY WILL OPERATE ON THEIR OWN
TIMELINE AND SCHEDULE.
ASHLEY: JASON, WE HAD SOME LOW
LEVEL, MOST RECENTLY,
NEGOTIATIONS WITH CHINA.
DIDN'T SEEM TO GO ANYWHERE.
NOW WE HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
FROM FORD SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT,
THIS CHINESE MADE SMALL FORD
FOCUS THAT WE WERE GOING TO
BRING HERE, NOT GOING TO DO IT
TARIFFS.
THAT PUTS MORE PRESSURE ON
CHINA.
THEY HAVE TO FIND SOMEWHERE TO
SELL THE CARS.
>> IT'S A BIG SEGMENT, BIG
MARKET.
YOU GET STUCK IN A FORD FOCUS --
I LOVE FORD, I DRIVE FORD BUT I
DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THE FORD
FOCUS.
THAT'S VERY SELFISH OF ME.
I THINK THE FACT WE HAVE BEEN
MOVING FORWARD WITH EUROPE, WE
ARE MAKING PROGRESS WITH MEXICO,
I DO THINK WE CAN WORK OUT THE
THINGS WITH CANADA, THAT PUTS
MORE PRESSURE ON CHINA ALONG THE
WAY.
BUT ALSO, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER
ASIAN COUNTRIES THAT I THINK OUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH SOUTH KOREA
AND THE AUTO MAKING THAT GOES ON
THERE, THIS ALL PLAYS INTO IT
AND IT DOES PLAY INTO THE NORTH
KOREAN POLITICS OF WHAT'S GOING
PRESIDENT HAS GONE ABOUT THIS?
>> YEAH.
HE'S TAKEN A VERY TOUGH STANCE,
UNCONVENTIONAL.
I THINK HE'S GOT A LITTLE BIT
OF, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY
WHERE HE'S GOING TO DO TO HIM
AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT IN
NEGOTIATION BUT HE HAS THE POWER
OF THE U.S. MARKET TO BACK IT
UP.
I THINK THEY KNOW HE'S SERIOUS
ABOUT THIS AND JUST ABOUT CRAZY
OTHER SIDE INTO ACTUALLY
STRIKING A DEAL.
ASHLEY: THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
CHINA, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE
GOING TO BLINK FIRST.
>> FEEL LIKE WE ARE OR THEY ARE?
ASHLEY: CHINA WILL HAVE TO BLINK
FIRST.
TO JASON'S POINT, IT SEEMS MR.
TRUMP NEGOTIATES LIKE THIS IS IT
AND WILL FOLLOW THROUGH ON HIS
THREATS, IN OTHER WORDS.
THAT'S GOT TO BE FRIGHTENING FOR
THE CHINESE, WHO WE ARE HUGELY
IMPORTANT TO THEM.
I KNOW THEY ARE TO US.
WE CAN HANDLE IT A LITTLE BETTER
NORTH AMERICAN DISPUTE, WE
RESOLVE EUROPE, TAKES A LITTLE
LONGER, BUT ONCE IT'S THE ENTIRE
WORLD SAYING CHINA, YOU HAVE TO
CHANGE, THAT'S A SITUATION THEY
DON'T WANT TO BE IN.
HANK GREENBERG, INSURANCE
COMPANY EXECUTIVE, PROBABLY HAS
DONE BUSINESS IN CHINA MORE THAN
ANYONE, WRITING IN THE PAPER THE
OTHER DAY CHINESE LEADERS
UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO CHANGE.
NOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT SO
MUCH FROM THESE NEGOTIATIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE GETTING IT
DONE TODAY BUT I THINK THAT'S A
SITUATION WHERE THERE WOULD BE A
SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION.
ASHLEY: VERY GOOD.
HEATHER, VERY QUICKLY.
>> WHAT KIND OF CAR DO YOU
DRIVE, JASON?
IF YOU'RE NOT DRIVING A FORD?
>> I LIKE THE EXPLORER.
WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE.
I DRIVE AN F-150 FOR A LONG
TIME.
>> IF YOU SAY MERCEDES OR BMW OR
PORSCHE, YOU MIGHT BE IN SOME
TROUBLE.
ASHLEY: HE'S A UTAH BOY.