DEVELOPMENT BUT IS IT A DIRE OF
A SITUATION AS IT SOUNDS?
DAGEN: FOR MORE ON THIS LET’S
BRING IN BROOKINGS INSTITUTION
CENTER FOR TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION
SENIOR FELLOW DARRELL WEST, AND
DUKE UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR,
SULTAN MEGI.
THANKS FOR BOTH OF YOU BEING
HERE.
DARRELL, I WILL BEGIN WITH YOU.
A LOT OF PANIC PEDDLING,
HYSTERIA, HUSBAND HINGE,
HUSTLING IF YOU WILL, I THINK
ABOUT IT DIFFERENT WAY, IN PRISM
IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE. 10-X, 100-X INCREASING ABILITY
10-X, 100-X INCREASING ABILITY
FOR DOCTORS TO TREAT PATIENTS.
BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE
GENETIC MARKERS ON A TUMOR IN 90
SECONDS, HOW DO YOU SEE IT,
DARRELL?
>> I THINK YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THERE ARE MANY POSITIVE
APPLICATIONS FOR A.I.
BANKS ARE USES IT ON FRAUDULENT
TRANSACTIONS.
THEY LOOK AT SUSPICIOUS HIGHLY
UNUSUAL.
A LOT OF USES IN THE MEDICAL
AREA.
RADIOLOGISTS ARE USING A.I. TO
EVALUATE X-RAYS, CAT SCANS, THEY
HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF ACCURACY.
THE NICE THINGS ABOUT A.I., IT
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DEMOCRATIZE
THE WORLD, BASICALLY GIVING
SMALL ENTREPRENEURS TO AUTOMATE
ROUTINE TESTS SAVE MONEY, BECOME
MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.
>> SULTAN, YOU COULD HAVE MADE
THE ARGUMENT WITH THE INTERNET
AND CAN BE USED TO SHUT DOWN
SPEECH.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING LET’S TAKE A
SIX-MONTH PAUSE TO GET OUR HANDS
AROUND THIS REMARKABLE
TECHNOLOGIES.
THAT DOESN’T MEAN KEEP IT OUT OF
THE PUBLIC SPHERE FOREVER.
MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND
HOW IT WILL IMPACT OUR LIVES.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
>> YOU KNOW IT IS INTERESTING,
THERE IS SO MANY GREAT A.I.
TOOLS ALREADY OUT THERE, A
SIX-MONTH PAUSE REALLY DOESN’T
CHANGE TOO MUCH.
CERTAINLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE
NATION-STATE ADVERSARIES THE
PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA IS NOT
SLOWING DOWN AT ALL, RIGHT?
IF WE’RE GOING TO TRY TO GET OUR
ARMS AROUND IT, WHAT WE NEED TO
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BE BUILT
INTO THE CONVERSATION WE’RE
HAVING WHEEL BUILDING ALL THE
GREAT INNOVATION HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
DAGEN: DARRELL, THAT RAISES AN
ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS
SIGNING A LETTER TELLING THE
WEST TO PAUSE.
THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT A
SIX-MONTH PAUSE IN THE NEXT
LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL BEYOND
GPT-4 IN CURRENT USE WITH SAY
BENDING A.I.
CHINA WOULD LOVE THAT.
CHINA WOULD DEVELOP PUSHING
FORWARD WITH ITS ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE AS A WEAPON OF WAR
IF YOU WILL.
SO I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU
HEAR THE HYSTERIA, WHAT IS THE
MOTIVATION BEHIND THAT?
WHEN THEY TELL US OH, YOU SHOULD
PAUSE, WELL WHY WOULD YOU WANT
CHINA TO FORGE AHEAD AND NOT THE
WEST?
>> OUR ADVERSARIES ARE
DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO PAUSE.
IF AMERICA PAUSED FOR SIX
MONTHS, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WE
WOULD BE WAY BEHIND ALL OF OUR
OPPONENTS AND THEY’RE USING IT
FOR MILITARY APPLICATIONS, FOR
NATIONAL DEFENSE.
IT IS A CYBERSECURITY THREAT.
SO THERE IS REALLY NO REASON FOR
A PAUSE.
THERE CERTAINLY ARE CONCERNS
ABOUT A.I. WHICH YOU KNOW WE ALL
UNDERSTAND BUT WE NEED TO
DEVELOP GUARDRAILS SO A.I.
REFLECTS BASIC HUMAN VALUES,
REFLECTS THING WE ALL CARE
ABOUT.
THERE ARE SOME GOOD FEATURES, WE
DON’T WANT TO THROW OUT THE GOOD
FEATURES OVER ELON MUSK WORRY
WHATS WILL HAPPEN TOWN THE ROAD.
SEAN: IT GOES TO ELECTION
INTEGRITY, IF YOU HAVE A.I.,
THAT IS SO POWERFUL AND SO GOOD,
IT COULD CHANGE THE OUT COMES OF
ELECTIONS.
THAT IS DANGEROUS FOR DEMOCRACY.
I WAS IN CONGRESS NINE YEARS,
THE CONGRESS MOVES VERY SLOW
WITH COMPLEX ISSUES LIKE THIS.
SHOULD WE GIVE CONGRESS SOMETIME
TO DISCUSS A.I. RULES FOR THE
FUTURE OR LEAVE IT TO INDUSTRY
TO SAY WE’LL MAKE UP THE RULE OF
THIS ROAD, CONGRESS BE DARNED?
>> IT’S GREAT QUESTION, AND
FRANKLY WE NEED BOTH.
WE NEED THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
FORGE AHEAD DRIVING AMAZING
INNOVATION BUT WE ALSO NEED THE
PUBLIC SECTOR.
WE NEED GOVERNMENT TO BUILD,
THOUGHTFUL, DYNAMIC REGULATION
THAT ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS THIS.
UNLIKE IN YOUR PREVIOUS SEGMENT
WHERE YOU HAVE AN AGENCY LIKE
THE SEC, JUST ASH ARBITRARILY
DECIDING WHAT THE REGULATORY
RULES OF THE ROAD ARE THAT IS
THE LAST THING WE WANT.
WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE TO MAKE
SURE IF WE PUT REGULATIONS IN
PLACE IT IS AS MUCH INSURING WE
LEAVE ROOM FOR THE INFOIZATION,
AS IT IS MAKING ROOM FOR BAD
PURPOSES.
SEAN: A BALANCE.