ARAB SHAH OF THENY, THANK YOU.
ARTHEL?
IF.
ARTHEL: THANK YOU.
FOR MORE YOU, WE’RE GOING TO
BRING IN THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF
UKRAINE, PETRO POR SCHOEN SEW --
POROSHENKO.
HE HAS A NEW FIVE-STEP PLAN FOR
PEACE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US, AND I’D LIKE TO
COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR VALIANT AND
HEROIC EXAMPLE OF LEADERSHIP BY
JOINING THE FIGHT YOURSELF
AGAINST RUSSIAN FORCES.
AND AND NOW I WANT TO GET RIGHT
TO THE INTERVIEW.
YOU HAVE INVITED PRESIDENT BIDEN
TO VISIT KYIV WHILE IN EUROPE
THIS COMING WEEK.
DO YOU REALLY THINK IT’S SAFE OR
AD GOOD IDEA ON ANY LEVEL TO
HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES ENTER AN ACTIVE WAR ZONE?
>> I DEFINITELY -- FIRST OF ALL,
I WANT TO THANK THE FOX NEWS FOR
THE OBJECTIVE INFORMATION ARE
FROM UKRAINE.
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
RIGHT NOW I HEAR THE SOUNDS OF
MISSILES AND JUST RETURNED BACK
FROM OUR FRONT LINE WITHIN 10
KILOMETERS FROM HERE WE HAVE
RUSSIAN TANKS.
BUT FOR THE LAST 10 DAYS, WE
DON’T ALLOW RUSSIAN TROOPS TO
MOVE ANY ONE STEPS MORE.
AND IF YOU’RE ASKING ME IS IT
SAFE?
NO, THIS IS NOT SAFE.
THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR MY 40
MILLION NATION.
BUT THREE PRIME MINISTER COME
HERE, PRIME MINISTER OF POLAND,
OF CZECH REPUBLIC, OF SLOW VAIN
YA, AND WITH -- SLOW VAIN YA,
AND IT HAS EXTREME SYMBOLIC
IMPORTANCE, AND THAT WOULD BE
THE DEMONSTRATION, VERY GOOD
FRIEND OF MINE, VERY GOOD FRIEND
OF UKRAINE, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
DEMONSTRATED THE REAL GLOBAL
LEADERSHIP.
BEING HERE IN UKRAINE, IN KYIV,
OUR CAPITAL, AND DON’T TELL OUR
PUTIN TO HAVE ANY HOPES TO
CAPTURE KYIV BECAUSE WE
UKRAINIANS NEVER GIVE UP.
WE MANY KYIV STANDING HERE -- WE
IN KYIV STANDING HERE IN FRONT
LISTENING TO MISSILE SOUND DON’T
GIVE THEM ANY, ANY CHANCE.
WE WANT TO HAVE TWO
RECOMMENDATIONS.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE,
PLEASE, DON’T BE AFRAID OF
PUTIN.
DO IT EXACTLY LIKE THE
UKRAINIANS DO.
AND POINT NUMBER TWO, DON’T
TRUST PUTIN BECAUSE PUTIN MANY
TIMES PROMISE NOT TO TAKE
UKRAINE, AND HE NOW CRAZY
PERSON, MAD PERSON OPINION,
ATTACK UKRAINE AND KILLING
UKRAINIANS.
ARTHEL: YOUR SUCCESSOR, ANOTHER
BRAVE SOLDIER, PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY, WHO TOLD CNN THIS
MORNING THAT HE WANTS TO SPEAK
WITH AND NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH
PUTIN, SAYING THAT WITHOUT
NEGOTIATIONS THIS FIGHTING AND
INNOCENT PEOPLE DYING, THAT IT’S
ALL IF IN VAIN.
HE’S CALLING IT SHADOW, AND --
SHALLOW, AND HE ADDS THAT
WITHOUT SUCH NEGOTIATIONS IT
WOULD MEAN THIS IS A THIRD WORLD
WAR.
DO YOU AGREE, AND DO YOU THINK
PUTIN IS READY TO NEGOTIATE IN
GOOD FAITH?
YOU JUST SAID DON’T TRUST HIM.
>> I THINK THAT UKRAINIANS
SURPRISE, THAT PUTIN --
SURPRISED PUTIN AND THE WORLD
WITH OUR UNITY.
WE HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN ME AND
ZELENSKYY AND DO OUR BEST TO
START WITH A CLEAN SHEET OF
PAPER AND DEMONSTRATE A UNITY TO
THE WORLD.
WE THINK THAT PUTIN ATTACK NOT
ONLY UKRAINE, PUTIN ATTACK THE
WHOLE WEST, OUR PRINCIPLES, THE
NECESSITY THAT THE ANSWER OF THE
CORRECTIVE WEST SHOULD BE
DESTRUCTIVE FOR PUTIN.
AND WITH THAT SITUATION, I
DEFINITELY SUPPORT PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY IN ANY FORM OF MEETING
WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN.
AND HIS REQUEST ARE, UNTIL BE MY
RECOMMENDATION, IT IS VERY
SIMPLE.
THIS IS HELP US TO SAVE YOU.
THE AMERICANS, THE EUROPEANS.
AND WITH THIS SITUATION, AS
YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHTLY
ASSESS, WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THE
FIVE NECESSARY POINTS.
POINT NUMBER ONE IS URGENCY TO
VOTE THE LAND LEASE ACT 2022
EDITION.
AND WITH THIS SITUATION WE NEED
EVERYTHING FROM NUTRITION TO
AMMUNITION.
AND WE ARE FIGHTING HERE.
THIS IS NOT THE SYSTEM, THIS IS
THE INVESTMENT OF THE WORLD IN
YOUR OWN SECURITY.
POINT NUMBER TWO WITH THIS
SITUATION IS TO CLOSE THE SKY.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT
AMERICANS CLOSE THE SKIES FOR
US.
WE NEED ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES,
WE NEED JET FIGHTERS, OLD JET
FIGHTERS FROM THE SOVIET UNION,
AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE BRAVEST
AND GREATEST PILOTS IN THE WORLD
TO HIT RUSSIAN PLANES BECAUSE WE
ALREADY HIT MORE THAN 200
HELICOPTERS AND JET FIGHTERS.
POINT NUMBER THREE, THIS IS THE
POSITION OF THE SECOND VERSION
2022, EVERYTHING BUT SOLDIERS.
WITH THIS SITUATION WE NEED
EVERY SINGLE DAY WHILE PUTIN
CONTINUE TO KILL UKRAINIAN
CIVILIANS, UKRAINIAN CHILDREN,
MORE SANCTIONS.
WE NEED EMBARGO ON THE OIL,
EMBARGO ON THE GAS, EMBARGO ON
WHOLE RUSSIAN EXPORTS BECAUSE
THIS IS A DISASTER.
WHEN PUTIN RECEIVE $70, 80
MILLION AN HOUR FOR SERVING THE
MONEY TO KILLING UKRAINE.
AND POINT NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS
THE MARSHALL PLAN VERSION 2022.
I WOULD HAPPILY NAMED IT BIDEN,
JOHNSON PLAN FOR ASSISTANCE
-YARD LINE, AND -- UKRAINE, AND
WE HAVE THE RUSSIAN MONEY WHICH
CAN DEFINITELY GO TO SUPPORT
UKRAINE.
AND POINT NUMBER FIVE ALSO VERY
IMPORTANT, THIS IS THE CASE FOR
SUPPORT UKRAINIAN ALLY EUROPEAN
INTEGRATION BECAUSE WE MAY BE
THE MOST DIFFICULT TEST, AND IS
WE ALREADY PAY THE HIGHEST PRICE
WITH THE TOLLS OF UKRAINIAN
BLOOD AND WITH THOUSANDS AND AND
THOUSANDS OF LIVES OF UKRAINIAN
HEROES DEMONSTRATING THAT WE ARE
FOR FREEDOM AND FOR DEMOCRACY,
AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE PLACE
WHICH WE SHOULD RISE UP THIS
QUESTION WHAT’S HAPPENING NEXT
WEEK, THE ASSIGNMENT OF NATO
WHICH HAPPENING IN EUROPE.
AND DEFINITELY THAT WOULD BE
RIGHT PLACE TO DECLARE TO
UKRAINE THEIR STATUS FOR
CANDIDATE COUNTRY FOR THE E.I.
MEMBERSHIP.
E.U. MEMBERSHIP.
ARTHEL: OKAY.
YOU MENTIONED THE CANDIDATE FOR
E.U. MEMBERSHIP, THAT PERHAPS
MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, MEMBERSHIP
INTO NATO IS DEFINITELY OFF THE
TABLE.
BUT BEAR WITH ME HERE FOR A
SECOND, SIR, BECAUSE YOU HAD A
LOT TO SAY.
I DO, IN FACT, HOPE THAT THE
UNITY THAT UKRAINE HAS EXHIBITED
SO VALIANTLY IS GOING TO BE
INFECTIOUS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
YOU ALSO KNOW THAT INDIA JUST
THIS WEEK PURCHASED MORE OIL
FROM, CRUDE OIL FROM RUSSIA.
SO THEY’RE LINING HIS POCKETS,
CONTINUING.
AND, OBVIOUS, ANY PLAN FOR PEACE
REQUIRES COOPERATION FROM PUTIN.
SO IF HE REFUSES A PEACEFUL
OPTION TO END HIS WAR ON YOUR
GREAT NATION, A COMPROMISE,
THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONTROVERSY
HERE IN THE U.S. ABOUT WAYS TO
REMOVE OR FORCE PUTIN FROM
POWER.
HOW DO YOU THINK PUTIN SHOULD BE
HANDLED AT THIS TIME?
>> WELL, MY THE FOLLOWING, THAT
WE SHOULD INCREASE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF UKRAINIAN ARMED
FORCES.
AND I’M PROUD THAT IT IS WE WHO
CREATE THE NEW UKRAINIAN ARMED
FORCES IN 2014, AND WE
DEMONSTRATE THAT THE RUSSIAN
ARMY WAS UNDERESTIMATING
UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES.
AND WE JUST NEED TO ENFORCE
PUTIN TO PEACE.
THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE
STRATOSPHERE --
ARTHEL: AND, SIR, IF I, AND I
BEG YOUR PARDON, SIR, BUT THAT’S
WHAT I’M ASKING, BECAUSE AS
YOU’RE CRYING OUT FOR HELP AS
YOU RIGHTLY SHOULD AND AS THE
WORLD IS WATCHING THIS HORRIBLE
WAR ON YOUR PEOPLE AND THE
WAR -- AND THE WORLD SUPPORTS
YOU -- PUTIN CONTINUES TO SHELL,
YOU KNOW?
HE’S INDISCRIMINATELY KILLING
CIVILIANS.
SO, YES, EQUIPMENT IS THERE,
HUMANITARIAN AID IS THERE, MORE
IS ON THE WAY, BUT TIME IS OF
THE ESSENCE.
IF IS THERE A WAY, IN YOUR
ESTIMATION, YOUR EXPERIENCE --
THIS IS ALL NEW FOR EVERYBODY, I
UNDERSTAND, BUT HOW CAN PUTIN BE
STOPPED IMMEDIATELY?
>> I JUST THOUGHT I EXPLAIN YOU.
THE -- FIRST OF ALL, THE
ASSISTANCE, THE WEAPONS IS NOT
ENOUGH.
WE TALKING ABOUT THE
ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES, WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT THE JET FIGHTER,
WE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ARMED
PERSONNEL CARRIER.
PLEASE, HELP US TO SAVE YOU.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE.
AND JUST YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND
THAT PUTIN GO AS FAR AS WE ALLOW
THEM TO GO.
PUTIN DON’T STOP IN UKRAINE.
ARTHEL: I UNDERSTAND, SIR.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE, SIR, WITH
THE LITTLE TIME HEFT?
AND I DON’T WANT TO RUSH YOU,
BUT WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO STOP
HIM?
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU’RE SAYING
THAT ALL OF THE HUMANITARIAN
AID, EVERYTHING THAT’S HAPPENING
AND YOU APPRECIATE IT, WE
UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HE KEEPS
KILLING YOUR PEOPLE.
SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW TO
STOP HIM IMMEDIATELY?
>> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I
EXPLAIN TO YOU.
I AM NOT A TERRORIST.
WE PROTECT OUR OWN COUNTRY AND
OUR OWN FREEDOM.
AND AS I SAID, WEAPONS, SANCTION
RUSSIA.
SANCTIONS SHOULD BE INCREASED
ALSO FOR THE COUNTRIES AND
COMPANIES WHO VIOLATE THE
SANCTION NO MATTER WHAT
NATIONALITY IT IS.
INDIA AND OTHERS.
PUTIN START TO BE EXTREMELY
TOXIC, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD PUT
HIM IN COMPLETE ISOLATION.
AND THEN RUSSIAN PEOPLE
DEFINITELY ERASE HIM.
AND MY REQUEST IS VERY SIMPLE,
PLEASE STOP FINANCE RUSSIAN WAR.
MAKE A FULL EMBARGO FOR THE
WHOLE RUSSIA, AND AND THAT
IMMEDIATELY LIQUIDATE RUSSIAN
POSSIBILITY TO ATTACK US.
AND MAKE PRESSURE TO WITHDRAW
PUTIN’S TROOPS FROM UKRAINIAN
SOIL.
DEFINITELY THIS WORKS.
AND, PLEASE, JUST NEED -- SORRY.
ARTHEL: NO, NO, I’M SORRY, SIR.
YES, I HEAR YOU.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
YOU ARE NOT A TERRORIST, I
UNDERSTAND THAT VERY MUCH, SIR.
WE RESPECT YOUR RESOLVE, YOUR
RESILIENCE, WE ARE HERE WITH
YOU.
I HOPE YOU GET EVERYTHING THAT
YOU NEED TO STOP THE KILLING OF
YOUR PEOPLE, AND I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR MESSAGINGS.
I HOPE THEY HAVE BEEN --
MESSAGES.
I HOPE THEY HAVE BEEN
COMMUNICATED LOUDLY AND VERY
CLEAR EVERYONE WHO NEEDS TO
HEAR.
FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF
UKRAINE, DO -- PRESIDENT OF