Eh, Hamilfox, what's up?
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It's funny because the fans react to every little hint
that Luke and Mary are going to be a thing one day.
And I love it.
I mean, you know I love the Luke and Mary characters,
but I've said before, if they're going to be together one day
than it should be something that happens naturally.
Every time Mary and Luke get to connect,
it's so funny because it's usually at a really devastating
moment and they're usually there for each other
in moments of grief.
So I think the two of them share a very strong bond because they
really understand and connect over what
it means to lose Kate Kane.
Is it romantic?
Is it friendship?
I don't know.
But yeah, the fans are definitely
going to clock this one.
I'm sure.
I can't wait to see all of their reactions.
That moment in the funeral where they lean on one another
like the fans are going to notice
and they are going to say something about it.
And I'm OK with that because it's great
that the fans see our chemistry that we
actually have in real life.
In that moment like Luke just has Mary's back.
At the end of the day, they have each other's backs.
You were right.
We're the Bat Team.
And the only way it works is if we have each other's back
even if you don't always agree.
We really wanted to create a villain that was focused--
that Batwoman could be focused on.
And through the first half of season 2,
Batwoman is going through this journey--
Ryan's going to this journey of embracing the suit,
finding her power as Batwoman, getting
the city to believe in her.
She's really successful at all those things.
And her nemesis, especially as Ryan,
is sort of the institution.
It's the systemic racism and the injustice
that she suffered as a result of that.
We wanted to put a face, like a human face, to her--
that sort of conflict.
And so what we'll discover that Black Mask has a very specific
agenda for this altered version of Kate Kane
and it's going to affect obviously
Kate but everyone in--
that loves her in a really dramatic way.
Black Mask ironically has a very similar outlook
to Gotham's institutions as Batwoman
as Ryan does they both believe that all systems can
be corrupted.
Black Mask is going about dealing with it his way
and Ryan's going about doing it her way.
Her way's obviously way more heroic his way is
just crazy, maniacal bad guy.
So it's interesting that both villain
and hero have this similar parallel outlook
on Gotham's institutions.
And they say the best way to change
the system is from within.
[INAUDIBLE] not changing crap.
And you are?
Doing my best every damn day.
Your best isn't good enough.
And I know that better than anyone.
My daughter was imprisoned by the Crows
and killed by Batwoman.
I never killed anyone.
But you've taken on the symbol of the woman who did.
So tell me, is that change?
So my sister Jordan, she gets to come
on into the Gotham scene.
And for Sophie, I mean, well, it's a little bit of a shock
because her first meeting of her sister,
like their little reunion, is literally in the back seat
of Sophie's SUV.
I particularly loved the fact that we are on opposite sides.
One's more radical about it, the other one's
trying to be more like proper and like this
is how we should do.
That's Sophie.
It just showed and just put a highlight on their dynamic.
It's ultimately Jordan that gets under Ryan's skin
a little bit and makes her realize that she's
doing a lot as Batwoman but is Ryan
doing enough as Ryan Wilder?
Look at this-- this girl who's like a young woman
who's going up against the police commissioner.
Where do you think the money comes
from every time we have to clean a building you
and your friends graffiti tag?
Got it.
So spray paint will get your attention but not
your own officers killing four unarmed black men this year
alone.
It's an elected position, sweetie.
You don't like me, run.
I think Alice returned to the Cartwright house
because that was the place that everything changed for her.
You know, losing her mother in that car accident--
if she had stayed back, if Kate had gotten her out of that car.
I think it was that house that changed her.
It was the people and the experiences that happened
to her in that house that really made her into the woman
you know and love as Alice.
And I think there's something that
keeps pulling her back there.
So I am not surprised that she keeps
ending up back in that house.
Everything is going to be all right.
Let's go upstairs.
I'll take your witness statement.
Are you kidding me?
I'm not giving my name to the Crows.
I may as well just do a sit down with Vesper Fairchild.
Do you have any idea what a huge deal this is?
There's no other witnesses.
I don't care.
The Crows don't keep people like me safe, and you know it.
I came to Sophie my sister for help not Sophie the Crow.
I think that there's many reasons that Luke defended Ryan
in that one scene against Mary.
I think one reason is because he has officially realized
that Kate Kane has passed away.
So because of that, he now sees Ryan
as the new hero of Gotham City.
And he needs to trust her because without her there's
no hero.
But I think another is that Luke also
saw that his negativity and his pushing back against her
has made her fight against that illness that was
in her due to the kryptonite.
It made her do all these things where
she kept secrets from him, and didn't respect him,
and didn't trust him.
I think that reminded Luke of himself.
And I think he wanted to stop her before things got worse.
Luke, False Face just executed the commissioner in cold blood
because he spoke out against Snakebite.
I'll see what I can do.
Why didn't you just tell her?
Because Ryan told us she's got this.
I know.
But wouldn't it just be easier if Sophie handled it?
Angelique is Ryan's lesbian Achilles' heel.
She's not going to turn her over to the authorities.
And this way we don't have to either.
We told Ryan we'd hold her accountable
and that doesn't mean going behind her back
the first chance we get.
Definitely didn't have Luke put his faith in a snakebite
dealer on my bingo card.
Putting my faith in Ryan.
You were right.
We're the Bat Team.
I was really excited to get to work honestly
with either Gracyn or Ava who played
young Beth and Kate respectively because they were so brilliant.
And I often said, last season, that I took some of the things
that Ava did because she was playing the origin
story of my character.
But getting to work with Gracyn was really fun.
And she plays Kate as Kate should be,
just very sort of straightforward and frank.
And yet it's also--
it's not entirely Kate.
It's also Alice's mind.
So then she's sort of saying all these crazy things
and talking back to her and being sassy.
What's happening?
This is what you do Alice.
You did it that day in your cell when you learned to sew
faces using human flesh.
Then you did it again when you found your mother's
head in the freezer.
I'm having a psychotic break.
When your reality is too much for you to process,
you imagine things askew so they're easier to digest.
You pretend you're in Wonderland drinking tea
or you blackout your own moral code to scorch a woman to death
or you see your dead sister.
I'm not handling Kate's death very well, am I?
She can't handle those really intense feelings of loss.
She just wants to forget her.
At the same time Black Mask has hired Enigma
to have Kate forget herself.
I do not think it will be as easy for Alice to forget Kate.
Kate and Alice are twins.
They shared the same womb, and they
had all the same experiences.
They are the yin to each other's yang.
I'm not sure that you can ever tear
those two characters apart.
And even in death, I think, Kate will
linger on imprinted on Alice's heart whether she likes it
or not.
Bruce Wayne had the Bat Code for himself.
I'm declaring the three rules of the Bat Team.
Rule number three, we've got each other's backs always.
Works for me.
Me too.
So if we've got each other's backs
that means rule number two.
We hold each other accountable.
Like you did for me today.
Most importantly, we stand for something
bigger than ourselves.
It's a little easier said than done.
What are you thinking?
Batwoman takes some of the awful off the streets,
but the Bat Team needs to replace
it with something positive.
That's how change happens.
Getting adopted by mama Cora, that was my game changer.
Angelique didn't have that.
We are going to take down Black Mask and his False Face gang.
But what are we going to bring to Gotham
so that no other guy comes along and gets
his hooks on other kids?
Jordan Moore is working on building a community center.
I want us to bring it to life.
What do you say?
You guys want to help me?
In any superhero movie, I love when
there's like a moment of like this Bat Team really forms.
And I feel like in 209, it was one of my favorite things
that we've ever shot in the bat--
in the Bat Cave because we really
established the Bat Team.
Now, Mary doesn't do so great with rules, so I don't know--
I know she's following along, but I don't know if she really
understands what this means.
They will be imperfect.
They will make mistakes.
But they are committing to try to do better for Gotham
and to try and stand for something
bigger than themselves.
Once Ryan sort of says, I have rules for the Bat Team moving
forward, I think there is this general sense of,
things aren't going to be perfect immediately,
but at least we are sitting down, and we're in one place,
and we were discussing us as a team.
It'll sort of force, Luke and Mary to respect her
in certain ways because at the end of the day
Luke and Mary are the grandfather and grandmother
of the Bat Team.
So now that Ryan is coming into play,
she wants to be on the same level playing field.
So I think it will help in a lot of ways
so that they can sort of see her as an equal from now on.
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