you know if you make Saint Jude 2 you finish that's the death Mill
there's people would have just been like but some bands do that and where are they now yeah
that's true a joke I'd be deadly serious
we're backstage at the Isle of Wight Festival Liam Frey from the cortinas is with us Liam
good afternoon mate hello mate how are you yeah I'm good um I'm sorry because I've just realized
we're interrupting your pre-gig routine yeah it's fine I could do that yogurt and stretch it anytime
what is the pregame greetings just told you there's actually no come on it depends sometimes
there isn't enough time to do anything and yeah last minute but it's getting a bit older now
I was gonna say has it changed down the year it changed dramatically down the years yeah yeah but
um but yeah I've done a bit of warm-ups and all that the resistance bands will be out for Campbell
um you're technically supporting Polk tonight even though it's a festival gig um is that
that's a dream come true I'm guessing insane from being you know 10 or whatever
feel like they are one of the greats yeah definitely like it seems weird because
they're like in our lifetime but I genuinely think that they are one of the greats so it's
still get like goosebumps every now and again like we've played with some amazing bands that we love
I was looking at the poster before and I was like oh yeah that's wasn't it underneath them
so yeah I can't wait it still feels like that even though you're trying to get ours out the
way yeah Dawn let's go and watch them um it feels like um a really good time for the band I mean
everything's kind of happened at once big things I'm talking about like Heaton Park obviously I
was saying before we started recording about you playing the Royal level for the teenage cancer
trust that was an amazing gig um and Saint Jude turning 15. um what's your relationship
with that album now and has it changed in the in that kind of span of time I ignored it for a bit
and I can I think we did like we did like an acoustic version of it at 10 years and I was
just a bit like but thinking I'm because I'm so much older now I can look at it like quite fondly
the biggest thing for me is looking out like I get heating part last week and I was like
they're 15 16 17 18 like what that's crazy so you know it keeps like bringing people in and stuff so
yeah I mean I really like it good but it's strange that it's had this weird Journey because it only
went to number one this year and it wasn't like it was one of those albums that wasn't a success when
it came out it was a big deal when it came out it sold really well yeah but it's only now gone
to number one it's I think it's only just gone platinum as well yeah which is crazy but we went
on Friday the day of the gig oh really yeah oh wow but what's the longevity there or is it just I
don't know I think because we weren't cool in the first place and we're not cool now so if if you're
never there you can't fall down okay I honestly like because we were never like flavor of the
month necessarily no one was really like coming to get us we're almost left alone do you think that
helped though because a lot of bands maybe from the era before you were kind of so overhyped and
were destined to fail do you think that has helped you kind of have the longevity you've
had don't get me wrong at the time I was like why aren't we on this or why don't we get that
I think everybody probably has a bit of that and you know the layers if they say the otherwise
but like I think you know we work on left our own devices and the fact that
no the the crowns the crowns kept coming so that well if there's still people in the audience
singing along to b-sides and yeah Happy Days that's mad isn't there um I did a little kind
of playlist of songs of yours I was listening to on the way in today no it was good um and what
struck me about it was how every album feels very different and you can identify kind of each era
um and the kind of biggest the starkist transition I guess was from Saint Jude to sort of Falcon
um which has a little bit of elbow about it very different to that first record is that a
deliberate Choice when you get into the studio or when you start writing songs do you think we need
to change it up or are you kind of led by what you're listening to or what you want to do nice
it was supremely deliberate I think you know if you make Saint Jude 2 you finish that's the death
Mill because people would have just been like but some bands do that and where are they now yeah
that's true a joke I mean it's deadly serious I almost think that Falcon was like album three
almost and maybe should have been a stepping stone in between it but yeah I love that you
said that because we you are always listening to what you've just done and gone come on you gotta
like move in while still trying to retain people's interest and like you can't go too mad because
do you need people to be into it like that's yeah you know you're gonna make like an Electronics I
wish you're in a position where we could the exact Norm you know what I mean if there's no
shackles what would you do is there something you've always wanted to explore in about eight
months I think oh really I don't know no he's not gonna are we going to get a weird
album next I've got loads of songs and there's definitely enough of the law to make something
weird really yeah how weird are we talking no no not weird weird yeah just wait for us
but again is that a deliberate choice or do you does that does it find you if you like I think I
think we're probably in a position now where we don't have to be as direct as we once did yeah I
think you know the way people listen to music as well some people listen to one song off the
album fine you know but then that means you can experiment with four or five of the others and
not necessarily have to stick to the same palette maybe or you know I think they've got you know
the horizons of abroad if you like so um yeah I've said too much um in your time as a band
everything's kind of changed as it always does I guess with bands that stick around
um how much kind of social media played a role in in the band going forward is that changing
anything like with Tick Tock and with um obviously Spotify because Spotify wasn't particularly as big
as it was when say Saint Jude came I'm still about myspace is that something that's that's
changed your band or is it as it remain kind of unaffected when we came out series had just
stopped selling yeah so we seem to be like kind of at every left turn it's like whether we're a bit
like tick tock's a big one because I almost find that a lot of pressure for people you know I find
that I don't know putting out a couple of instas a week so the idea of doing like eight things a
day I'm just like hey give me a break but listen no I'm not saying people that do it yeah yeah
just saying I couldn't handle it I think so much pressure content content content you know like
this stuff you know I mean like it just must be so hard for people to come up with like new stuff and
yeah effectively those 10 songs of your content really I was gonna say does it detract from what
you're actually trying to do not for us no but I imagine it must be really difficult coming through
now and you've almost got the presence before you start and before you get it's just like what so I
think it's changed I think for new bands 100 we're lucky that we you know there's more white in the
beard also yeah well you have to worry about that too much yeah um I read about uh quote I'm
assuming it's from you it may be it may not be a mailman obituary I don't know but it says that you
you wrote exclusively from personal experience so almost every song is from your personal experience
is that true if I say yes you're gonna never but yeah pretty much yeah pretty much how was
that is that hard difficult yeah I guess yeah but in a good way like rewarding because it
means when you're singing it and this is going yeah you can see that and they're seeing it back
and I think well you know again that there's nothing wrong with storytelling either yeah
some of it you know details Etc might not be to a letter but for the most part yeah which sometimes
is why people don't understand it's like oh why have you not had a record It's like because I'll
be doing anything I'm just gonna say so that was the effects that the pipeline but it is and you
know other times you know I've got loads of songs recently you know you just go through pizza shops
really and Don't Force It some people write songs every day like for a living and again I
admire that it's a different mindset I think I'm not really I can't really do that I have to like
have something or pull it or it has to nudge me or something so if you're kind
of resettled and happy I guess there's not there's not a lot of songs coming you
know both ways I think works both ways yeah um I'm going to ask you about a menu a Lego manual fan
um yeah it's been a pretty decent season we won't talk about City or it's got us over that um but
what's your thoughts on the season good good it's been like transition I guess I mean 10 hours the
best signing yeah I think we've had in a long time um is all about this summer really and go and get
Harry Kane what are you waiting for I'm a Spurs fan I was going to say do you want it yeah is it
is he I guess you solve a lot of problems but like you know um Bellingham going to Madrid yeah but
then they've got the money to get Kane as well but are they gonna do that I don't know I don't know
surely he's got to go no disrespected no I mean is this she'll come and get me please okay surely
think about what you know with the supply from Bruno casimiro yeah it rashford you
know be amazing it'll break my heart but it's just nice to see him happy yeah yeah yeah
um I just want to finish up by asking you and I'm always interested in talking to bands and
artists about this but is there someone you're listening to right now is there an album or a
song or an artist that you're really into that you can recommend do you know I've been listening
to loads of post Malone recently oh really yeah yeah um and uh who else a band called felt felt
yeah that James Kelly put me on to um so yeah fell and post Malone nice it's a spectrum really yeah