Didn't Elon Musk come out recently for Desantis?
>> Yeah, I think Ron Desantis would work as a good president.
I mean what he's done for Florida has been admirable.
>> But I feel like I'm doing breaking news right now.
That wasn't even on purpose.
>> [SOUND] >> [LAUGH]
>> Elon musk said it was a good idea.
So it must be naturally.
So what did the Florida governor do that was so admirable?
Naturally Joe Rogan's going to tell us a long detailed list of the things that
Ron DeSantis has done for the people of Florida.
Let's watch that.
>> I feel like what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave him a lot of grief, but
ultimately he was correct.
He was correct when it comes to like deaths,
he was correct when it comes to protecting our vulnerable populations.
He was correct in terms of distribution of monoclonal antibodies.
And he was furious when the government tried to pull those,
they were trying to pull very effective treatments.
>> All right, let's break this down because I think it's really important.
He's talking about Covid deaths and he's talking about vulnerable populations.
So Desantis said, they were misreporting Covid deaths,
that the numbers being reported were wrong.
He's right that they were wrong.
That is true.
But Desantis said the number of deaths was overstated when in
reality the Desantis administration was understating the numbers.
So let's look at this.
We had one COVID death in Florida yesterday, yes you read that right, one.
So that was Fred Piccolo, Desantis' press secretary at the time.
So the Desantis administration was reporting that there was one
COVID death on a day where there were 47,
and this was something that they were doing systematically.
The Desantis administration was audited and
was found to be undercounting the COVID cases and the death toll in Florida.
So we have in Hodason of the Miami Herald reporting that covering
the state's pandemic response from March to October of 2020,
the year long analysis by the Florida auditor general found missing case and
death data, unreported ethnic and racial details and
incomplete contact tracing as the coronavirus spread across the state.
So Joe Rogan specifically pointed two deaths and vulnerable populations.
That is exactly the group of folks and that's exactly the data that Desantis'
administration was responsible for underreporting, but they weren't just
underreporting as you just heard, they were also failing to prevent the spread.
So the Miami Herald again,
auditors found that the state never spoke with 23% of infected individuals.
Those who the state did contact were often reached over a week after testing
positive, leaving ample time for them to spread the virus to others.
So an admirable job.
He was right, according to Joe Rogan, this was all good policy making presidential
material and Florida is still experiencing a high death toll under Desantis' watch.
And is the state right now with the second highest average deaths per
100,000 people in the country, with 53 average daily COVID deaths.
Desantis, he had no power over the monoclonal antibodies or
the other treatments that Joe Rogan likes to talk about.
Like I've rejected the Santis really had no say in this.
He was just someone who was complaining about it in the media a lot.
But really, a lot of conservatives elect people who just say stuff
in the media that they like while the people in their home state are dying.
And I want to get your thoughts on this.
Yeah, I mean, I think the details you provided that debunk
the notion that Ron de Santis was an effective leader in
in protecting his constituents against this virus.
It's so important to share that with people.
But I think what's, what's behind Joe Rogan's endorsement
of Ron de Santis is honestly like the perception of Covid and
the reality of Covid, versus the reality of covid.
So let me make my point like what for people like Rogan who for
the most part was insulated from the coronavirus pandemic.
And what I mean by that is he has a kind of job where he doesn't need to be,
you know, in front of a bunch of customers.
He's not a cashier.
He's not in the service industry, he is operating in a room somewhere
with a few other people in there if that and he's safe, right?
Like it doesn't really have an impact on his body on his health because
he's insulated from it relative to what most workers have to deal with.
And so when you don't really see the ramifications personally of Covid and
you see all of these rules and
regulations being implemented that are just like an inconvenience for you.
All you see those measures as is annoyances, inconveniences.
You wanted to end, you want everything to go back to normal.
And he also unfortunately like kind of operates in a world where a lot of
conspiracy theorists love to opine about what's really behind what's going on.
I will say in that same podcast episode, he pushed back when his guest tried to
claim that they purposely shut down businesses to like make people suffer.
And he's like, he called it monday night quarterbacking,
which I thought was interesting and I agree with.
But with all of that said, I just think for people like Rogan Covid
unfortunately like radicalized him in the wrong ways.
And I think when you put someone like De Santis up against someone and
remember DeSantis, he's the kind of politician who wants you to like
give in to all of your bad urges, right?
Because the battered is I don't want to change anything.
I don't want to wear the mask.
I don't like it.
I get it.
That resonates with me have to wear makeup for work.
I hated putting the mask on, hated it.
But I also understood like this is temporary.
It's not the end of the world, if this is what I need to do to stop the spread of
this virus, I'm just gonna do it and move on with my life.
But for other people, it's just like endless annoyances,
especially when you exist in a more affluent situation where you're
overwhelmingly insulated from the realities of the pandemic.
So true.
Absolutely.
The case that Rogan is super disconnected from everyday americans who had to
go to work during the pandemic.
And honestly, a lot of people see Rogan as a guy who speaks up for, for
the average american for the little guy.
I don't know if I buy that, but he does have a responsibility with such
a large audience to look into what he's pushing to his base.
There will be people who say, you know, I trust Joe Rogan, so
maybe I'll look into the Santis now and that's really scary.
But Joe Rogan also did make a really weird statement about freedom and
disinterest right after this.
Let's watch that.
You know, he is not perfect.
He's a human being, but what he's done is stand up for freedoms and people think
that this was some weird gaslighting that went on where people equated freedom and
saying the word freedom to like right wing bigotry and hate is so strange.
Yeah, how could we possibly confuse what DeSantis is saying with right wing bigotry
and hey, it kind of seems like joe Rogan is the one that that's confusing these two
things here because in the name of freedom de Santis has been pushing legislation
that suggests people can't talk about L G B T Q plus identities in schools.
Is that about freedom?
Let's be really real about what Ron DeSantis stands for.
And I think the right frequently confuses this notion of freedom with actually our
rights being stripped away, as we can see with all of the Supreme Court rulings that
have come out on friday and the days afterwards.
And so the right being the party of Freedom and fighting for personal freedoms
is something that we dissect a lot on this show and that we absolutely don't buy.
And this is just a weird statement from Joe Rogan.
Yeah, and look, the Republican party has done a very good
job in their pr messaging in regard to liberty and freedom, right?
They have taken the mantle of patriotism, even though they actively hate this
country, hate with the constitution entails and
want to roll back the accomplishments and you know, improvements in this country,
but it doesn't matter because if you say something repeatedly over and over again,
people start to believe it and most people aren't spending all day reading about
what's happening in government, most people are super busy just trying to
ensure that their family members are fed, making sure they can pay the insanely
expensive rent in this country and so you just hear it over and
over again in the media and like, I don't know, I guess republicans are for freedom.
Whereas the democrats, I mean,
just m I a no strategy, no effective messaging and
yeah, I think that the left needs to get better about
labeling the right wing as anti freedom anti liberty.
I want to emphasize over and over again how much the right wing wants to legislate
what you're allowed to do in your own bedroom.
Like that's on their mind.
That's not freedom.
Okay.
That is allowing for the government to make decisions for
you in the most intimate areas of your life, whether it's reproductive rights,
whether it's what you do with your partner intimately in your own bedroom,
they want to do away with certain contraceptives.
They're they're not about freedom and liberty at all.
Period.
And by the way on top of all of that, they want to punish you if you take
part in the BDS movement, which should also be considered unconstitutional.
But we've got religious zealots in the Supreme Court.
So