Political commentator, Tim Pool,
had a bit of a dust up on his podcast talk show just the other day.
With a guest, Ryan A Thorburn,
which many people may know better as R.A. the Rugged Man.
They were discussing racism, and at one point,
apparently, Tim accused R.A of being a racist.
They were discussing police brutality, specifically, Derek Chauvin and
the situation up in Minnesota.
So, by the way, both men are white, and
after this all happened, things were taken down.
He wasn't showing the whole thing, and
then little excerpts keep spilling out onto the Internet.
But before we get to some of the things that happened, this is just a bit of one
thing someone tweeted to point out exactly where this stuff went.
So the tweets was apparently,
an apparently desperate Tim Pool goes from Derek Chauvin is innocent too.
I think we should abolish the police after a few minutes of questioning.
Now that questioning that was mentioned about this Twitter
wasn't too many questions, let's listen.
>> And you have the nerve to come up to me and tell me my experiences don't matter,
I'm fighting the fight.
>> Stop screaming bitch, stop screaming.
First of all, talk to me like I'm, cuz I'm not that guy.
>> Yeah, you are.
You actually are, Dude, you are that guy.
>> But I'm not all right screaming that bitch.
>> Calm down, man.
>> You think you can.
>> I'm not that guy.
You don't disrespect me, bitch.
>> What did you do to me?
>> That was round one.
>> Okay, hold on.
Let's score around one.
Okay, so, I want to give you clarity and context here.
So Tim Pool is accusing RA of being raised against white people, okay?
Whatever.
He's white, they're all white.
It's absurd.
So now Tim Poole was saying, I don't know.
I did a documentary about police abuse of black people.
Yeah, back when you were pretending to be left wing, you left that part out, and
then you did a massive turn.
RA is totally right.
And then now you're defending people like Derek Chauvin.
He's factually correct on all that.
And that's why you were so upset,
because your whole schtick is I am every man in the middle.
My God, I am so fair.
I remember I used to be left wing, and now I get paid to be right wing.
You see how fair I am.
But you know, it's really George Floyd's for fault, and
Derek Chauvin is kind of a hero.
And so he's got right now.
And so all these terribly racist people that went, you get it right?
And that's his whole schtick.
Anytime you tune in, white supremacists are great and the misunderstood and
etcetera, and he'll say, that's hyperbolic.
No, I don't say white supremacists are great.
I just show you all these different instances of when they were misunderstood
and victims.
So RA is right about everything.
He later apologized for losing his cool, but
I don't think he should have [LAUGH] to be honest.
And I've had him on the show like a million years ago, and
he was a young person on [INAUDIBLE].
The Internet so crazy now I have no idea of are these likes us,
doesn't like I have no idea I have lost track.
Maybe we'll ask him to come back on and find out.
But because everybody turns a thousand times, we feel,
I feel like we're the only people who haven't turned, [LAUGH] right?
Because everyone's like, where's the money?
Where's the money?
Left, I'm left.
It's right, am right, am right, am right.
[LAUGH] So, all right, Adrian.
Thoughts on the first round here.
>> Well, it's just there's a lot of, the toxic masculinity thing going I'm gonna
fight to borrow, when the reality is there's just a lot of racism to go around,
so it's like everybody can have it just, it's like, let's hug it out.
Let's not fight.
Everybody can be racist.
It's okay.
>> [LAUGH] >> Well, there's a thing.
By the way, I feel like the whole I'm not that guy thing.
I was like, I think he misunderstood where RA was coming from.
Because when somebody says I'm not that guy,
you might want to stop talking to me like that.
The next response if you're gonna say no, you are that guy.
I was like, does he realize what's coming?
Because I saw what was coming.
>> Yeah, me too.
But Tim had no idea.
>> So there must have been someone he thought because you said he was.
He was claiming he was racist.
Tim was claiming the rugged man is racist.
But, maybe in the context of the larger conversation, that's what was coming.
But in that small moment, my man told you, don't talk to me like that.
Not I'm not who you are saying I am and my characteristics it was, listen,
no more disrespectful words towards me and raising your voice.
He missed that part.
It's like shoving and then not being ready for the swing.
>> Yeah, look, I don't mind that he lost to school, but
I also don't think that Tim pool yelling was a big deal.
I think his opinions are a much bigger deal, a much more toxic.
But he raised his voice, so what?
>> But yeah, >> Some people aren't good with that man.
Some people are good at getting yelled at.
Even if you don't know you're yelling at them, just happens that way.
Round two.
Let's go, ding ding.
>> Did you, >> Like I'm some sucker?
>> Did you laugh at me?
>> Yeah, I laughed.
>> You disrespect me.
I was nice to you, but I was being nice >> To your voice to me like I'm
your son bitch.
>> You raise your voice to me, bro.
I said >> Daise my voice.
>> I respected you.
>> You wouldn't shut.
You're raising your voice.
>> I stopped when you told me to.
You said lower your voice, so I lowered my voice.
I told you I respected you, coming.
It was a good show.
I said I respected you, willing to admit when you've got things wrong.
Bro I have put so much of my life into this.
Look at this.
>> I watch your videos.
You really watch your video?
No, I see your videos.
>> You don't.
>> You're gonna say, look, this is the non racist thing.
But now you have videos promoting Derek Chauvin and and
acting like he was in the right.
You have videos of that.
You have videos of
the other guy.
You have videos of the other.
You have videos of the other guy to the armory.
And, but they grabbed the pistol defending them, killing a black man in the streets.
And he ran for them and giving excuses.
You have these videos.
So all the dishes, it doesn't matter.
>> Doesn't matter.
>> No, of course not.
>> A decade of work doesn't matter.
>> No. >> Because two lives.
>> Not if no, because lives were lost by police.
And you went there boot licking the cops.
>> I think we should abolish the police.
>> [LAUGH] Come on.
Tip was such a hilarious grifter, right?
So he went from Derek Chauvin's awesome, to we should abolish the police.
Really?
And he guy, he's gonna do absurd mental gymnastics to get there, right?
But why does he even do it?
Because he wants to preserve the image of I'm neutral.
It just happens that white people are right about everything.
It just happens that the right wing is right about everything.
But hey, I said, abolish the police.
But Rittenhouse Awesome.
Chauvet is awesome.
Every cop that shoots a black man is awesome, okay?
So what do you want to abolish you for?
Well, I did a documentary 10 years ago,
back when I was pretending to be left wing.
Sure [LAUGH] okay.
>> Well, that's the thing is, if you stay with a current thought
process that you are, you're bound to anger some people,
you're bound to get maybe followers of use of your show to be like I'm not into that.
And that sometimes is the scariest thing for people who are trying to make money
off of who they are and off of their show, because then you'll lose some viewers.
I'm sure we've lost tons of viewers based on people saying,
I don't like that y'all's thoughts on this,
I don't like where y'all went with that election analysis.
I don't like that You guys are supporting this particular candidate, all that stuff,
and that goes with the territory.
You can't be afraid of losing potential viewers and
followers because of sticking to maybe who you are.
I don't know exactly where Tim Pool's thought processes,
if it changes this much, we never know when those things types, things happen.
So then you end up losing people anyway.
Maybe this guy who was a supporter of yours and watch a lot of your things.
And I was on your show screaming because of the frustration that comes with that
type of approach.
>> Yeah, I'm curious what you guys think.
Tim, pool clearly back down there, right?
So I wasn't raising my voice, was amazing it [LAUGH].
So it felt like a little solicitous, I've raised my voice,
said guess and then they raised their voice.
And then, if they're being ridiculous or
they say anything that relates to violence, I can't him off the show.
So what, right?
But Tim's like RA, the rugged man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Or you could say, hey, no, you know what?
He's being conciliatory and that's good.
And by the way, later they hugged it out so that,
there was a There's a good argument to be made for both of those.
>> So his he wants to abolish, Police says, look at this one quick tweet from
Tim after this, he said, I'm over it, abolish police or whatever.
I own guns.
It's the cities that want this, and it's the cities that will suffer because of it.
>> In other words, you don't want to abolish the police.
>> No.
>> Right?
It's like a flawed.
>> Seriously, and something that always kind of that hits me is
whenever you talk essentially about what you do to advocate for
certain groups, or to fight the system or whatever.
When you bring up things from back in the day, that tells me we've got a problem.
It's like somebody saying, I marched in the 60s.
It's a tale that no, you don't really get it.
And you're not really working toward a solution as much as you're probably part
of the problem, because you can't hold on things you did back in the day,
especially as we have new problems in the world is evolving.
Also, with Tim Pool kind of backing down, it was clear that, he wasn't the one.
It wasn't for him when that other gentleman stood up and got feisty.
It shows you Tim ain't there to, throw fisticuffs.
It wasn't gonna happen.
>> Look, nothing should ever get physical anyway.
It's silly, right?
But so I call that one a draw because Tim definitely back down.
He got a little scared there.
>> Maybe he should, about on the show, right?
>> That's why I'm saying, because it's okay.
I like that He became conciliatory, like you said.
What you gonna do?
Fight?
Don't fight.
That's stupid, right?
I kid around about doing getting in the ring with Rogan and
stuff like that, but even that it would be in the ring, and
it's, I'm messing with them, right?
But actually get in a fight physical altercation and by the way,
that almost happened to us.
Why?
Because Alex Jones comes in and starts like trespassing and getting physical.
And Roger Stone's there, etcetera.
So if somebody comes at you, well, I think we could all agree.
Self defense, okay?
We're gonna stand our ground, but don't get there.
Don't get there.
That's silly.
Maybe a bit of the back and forth.
I didn't notice these tweets about Boston police was from April of this year.
So I guess it's a bit of a pendulum here and there with that.
Yeah, Overall, R a.
The rugged man for the win.