TO MATTER THE MOST IN MY VIEW.
THERE’S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.
IF YOU’RE TRYING TO LISTEN TO A
PODCAST ONE OF THE BEST AND
FIRST AND CERTAINLY THE MOST
POPULAR JOE ROGAN TESTED
POSITIVE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS AND
AT WHICH TIME HE IS IN GREAT
SHAPE, HE DOES UFC FIGHTS BUT
ONE OF THE THINGS HE HIT IT WITH
WAS IBRAMECTIN, AND EVERYBODY
WAS MOCKING HIM SAYING IT’S A
HORSE DRUG WHEN IN 2015 IT GOT
THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR MEDICINE AS
A BREAKTHROUGH AND IN JAPAN THEY
ARE USING IT.
AINSLEY: AND HIS DOCTOR
RECOMMENDED IT.
BRIAN: HIS DOCTOR PRESCRIBED IT
SO DR. GUPTA IS TRYING TO HAWK
A BOOK, DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE WAS
GETTING INTO.
AINSLEY: JOE ASKED HIM TO COME
ON THE SHOW AND DR. GUPTA SAID
I WAS TOLD YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO
ON THERE BECAUSE HE MIGHT
CRITICIZE YOU AND HE SAID I
REALLY WANT TO IT’S A LONG
PLATFORM AND HE WAS ON WITH A
LONG TIME, NO BREAKS AND A GOOD
OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION.
BRIAN: THEY TALKED FOR THREE
HOURS.
STEVE: WATCH VERY CAREFULLY
BECAUSE JOE ROGAN, SAID HEY, WHY
D.C. NHL, WHERE YOU ARE THE
CHIEF MEDICAL REPORTER WHY
DID THEY LIE ABOUT ME TAKING
THIS ANIMAL DEWORMER.
IT’S ABOUT TWO MINUTES LONG.
>> HORSE DEWORMER IS NOT A
FLATTERING THING.
>> IT’S A LIE, ON A NEWS
NETWORK AND IT’S A LIE THAT’S A
WILLING THAT’S A LIE THEY ARE
CONSCIENCE OF.
IT’S NOT A MISTAKE.
>> YEAH.
>> THEY ARE UNFAVORABLY FRAMING
IT AS VETERINARY MEDICINE.
>> WELL THE FDA PUT THIS THING
OUT, YOU SAW THAT.
DID YOU SEE THE THING THE FDA
PUT OUT?
>> WHAT DID THE FDA PUT OUT?
>> IT WAS A TWEET AND IT WAS SNA
RKY.
THEY SAID YOU AREN’T A HORSE,
YOU AREN’T A COW STOP TAKING
THIS STUFF.
>> WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT WHEN
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A DRUG
THAT’S BEEN GIVEN OUT TO BILLION
S AND BILLIONS OF PEOPLE,
A DRUG THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR
ONE OF THE INVENTERS OF IT
MAKING.
>> NOBEL PRIZE.
>> IN 2015.
>> YEAH.
>> A DRUG THAT’S BEEN SHOWN TO
STOP VIRAL REPLICATION IN HAVE
IT RAIL ENTITLEMENT.
YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
WHY WOULD THEY LIE AND SAY
THAT’S HORSE DEWORMER?
I CAN AFFORD PEOPLE MEDICINE.
>> [LAUGHTER]
>> THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
IT’S JUST A LIE.
>> I DON’T THINK ANYONE --
>> DON’T YOU THINK A LIE IS
DANGEROUS ON A NEWS NETWORK WHEN
YOU KNOW THEY KNOW THEY ARE
LYING?
YOU KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT I
TOOK MEDICINE, LIKE HERE IT IS.
THIS IS IBRAMECTIN.
SOMEBODY GAVE IT TO ME.
THE THING IS, WE’RE LIKE GOING
SO FAST LIKE I FEEL LIKE I’M
MISSING --
>> DO YOU THINK IT’S A PROBLEM
THAT YOUR NEWS NETWORK LIES?
>> WELL, WHAT DID THEY SAY?
>> THEY LIED AND SAID I WAS
TAKING HORSE DEWORMER.
FIRST OF ALL IT WAS PRESCRIBED
TO ME BY A DOCTOR.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER
MEDICATIONS.
>> IF YOU GOT A HUMAN PILL
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE TAKING
IT, THE VETERINARY MEDICATION,
AND YOU’RE NOT, OBVIOUSLY.
YOU GOT IT FROM A DOCTOR, SO
THAT SHOULDN’T BE CALLED THAT.
IBRAMECTIN CAN BE A VERY
EFFECTIVE MEDICATION FOR
PARASITIC DISEASE AND AS YOU
SAY IT’S PROBABLY I THINK WHAT,
A QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE HAVE
TAKEN IT AROUND THE WORLD?
>> MORE, WAY MORE.
WAY MORE.
BILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN IT
>> CAN I JUST COME BACK I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT --
>> NO, NO, NO.
YOU HAVE, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT
DOES IT BOTHER YOU THAT THE NEWS
NETWORK YOU WORK FOR OUT AND OUT
LIED?
OUT RIGHT LIED ABOUT ME TAKING
HORSE DEWORMER.
>> THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE SAID
THAT.
>> WHY DID THEY DO THAT?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
>> YOU DIDN’T ASK.
>> I DIDN’T ASK.
I SHOULD HAVE ASKED BEFORE
COMING ON YOUR PODCAST.
>> I WATCHED.
BRIAN: HE DID AND JIM ACOSTA
WAS THE GUY JOE ROGAN
NAMED AND HE SAID I
FELT GOOD IN 24 HOURS AND I’M
WATCHING SAYING I’M TAKING THIS
STUFF AND RIDICULE ME AND I
LISTENED TO THE SHOW, AND HE HAD
A COMEDIAN FRIEND ON AND PEOPLE
AT CNN ARE UPSET THAT I’M BETTER
AINSLEY: HE DIDN’T LET UP.
STEVE: YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN IN
THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
300 MILLION DOSES OF IT HAVE, IT
WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 970S FOR
TWO TROPICAL DISEASES, ONE
WAS CALLED RIVER BLINDNESS AND
THE OTHER LYMPHATIC PHILORISIS,
I’M SURE I’M MISPRONOUNCING THAT
MERCK DONATES HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOSES A YEAR,
BECAUSE IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A
HUMAN MEDICINE.
IT HAS SINCE BEEN USED FOR
VETERINARY PURPOSES AND IN
FACT IF YOU FEED YOUR DOG HEART
GUARD FOR HEARTWORMS THE ACTIVE
INGREDIENT IS IBRAMECTIN.
AINSLEY: BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE
HERE IS HIS DOCTOR PRESCRIBED IT
WHY ARE THEY CRITICIZING WHAT HE
DECIDES TO TAKE AND PUT IN HIS
BODY THAT HIS DOCTOR GIVES HIM
TO TREAT A VIRUS?
BRIAN: YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIGGER
PICTURE IS?
WHEN RON JOHNSON INTERVIEWED THE
DOCTOR WHO HAD SO MUCH
SUCCESS GIVING IT OUT AS A
THERAPEUTIC, THEY TOOK DOWN THE
SENATE TESTIMONY WHEN HE WAS
IN THE MAJORITY.
AINSLEY: LISTEN, IF YOU HAVE A
VIRUS THAT’S DEADLY AREN’T YOU
GOING TO THROW THE KITCHEN SINK
AT IT TOO?
BRIAN: RIGHT AND YOU GO TO A
DOCTOR AND THAT’S WHAT HE DID.
LISTEN TO THE SHOW AND FIND OUT
HOW HE WAS RIDICULED BUT FROM
HOWARD STERN ON DOWN, WHEN YOU
TAKE ON JOE ROGAN, HE IS A
PODCASTER AND THEY WANT TO
MINIMIZE IT BUT THE PODCAST IN
TODAY’S ENVIRONMENT IS AS
POWERFUL AS NETWORKS.
AINSLEY: AT THE END HE SAID WELL
I’M GLAD YOU’RE BETTER AND
JOE ROGAN SAID I THINK YOU’RE
THE ONLY ONE AT CNN THAT THINKS
THAT.
STEVE: IT JUST GOES TO SHOW
THERE ARE A LOT OF DOCTORS GIVE
DIFFERENT STUFF.
HE HAD A DOCTOR WHO GAVE THAT
AND NOW YOU’VE HEARD THE WHOLE
STORY AND SANJAY SAYS CNN
SHOULDN’T HAVE SAID THAT.
BRIAN: ANTHONY FAUCI PEOPLE
JUST WORSHIP AT HIS FEET WHEN HE
WANTS TO DECIDE WHETHER WE CAN
HAVE HALLOWEEN OR CHRISTMAS,
NEVER BRINGS UP THERAPEUTICS, HE
ALWAYS BRINGS UP THE VACCINE BUT
THE VACCINE HE PREDICTED
WOULDN’T COME OUT FOR 18 MONTHS
TO TWO YEARS WAS OUT IN NINE
MONTHS.
AINSLEY: BUT IN SANJAY GUPTA’S
DEFENSE HE’S NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT
EVERY SHOW ON THAT NETWORK AND
DETERMINE WHAT’S GOING TO BE
TALKED ABOUT.
STEVE: IF HE MISSED IT, HE HEARD