Strife must exist where there is division.
That is obvious...
...division between the guru and the disciple, between our nationalities...
...as long as there is a division of any kind there must be conflict.
This is obvious.
Right?
Do we see that?
As long as one thinks one is superior to another there must be conflict.
As long as one asserts one's opinions, judgements as opposed to another's...
...opinions, another judgement, there must be division and conflict.
In relationship between two people...
...each pursuing his own ambitions, his own fulfilment...
...his own desires, division exists and therefore there is conflict.
Right? I hope you are following.
You are observing it not verbally...
...not intellectually but actually as it is taking place in your daily life.
Right?
Now we are asking: why has this division come into being?
There is the sunset and sunrise, darkness and light, the stars in their...
...great brilliancy and beauty and the dark earth, there is the man...
...and a woman, there is nature and technological improvement.
All at that level, which is actual.
And inwardly, if you observe carefully, inwardly there is also division:
I must/I must not, I have been/I shall be, I shall achieve/I may not achieve.
So there is always this inward division as well as outward division.
Right? Right sir?
Some of you at least agree or disagree with me.
We are asking why. How has this come about?
Is this the normal state, natural healthy state?
Or it is really abnormal. Really non-existent.
This is what we are going to find out.
You are following all this?
First of all we are asking: is this normal? - this division.
And why does this division exist, between God and man...
...the good and the bad, the better - and so on, this constant division...
...comparison, conformity to a pattern, and so on and so on?
Is this normal? We have accepted it as normal.
Like war - please follow - like war, like the man who says...
...'I know, you don't know', 'I interpret God and you listen'.
We have accepted nationalism, division of classes, hierarchical outlook...
...as being normal, healthy, necessary, because we think that is progress.
Right?
That is evolution, that is achieving the good.
Right?
Now we are saying is this normal?
We are questioning to find out together - together...
...not the speaker says something and you accept or reject...
...but together we are investigating into this question...
...which means we are thinking together, not you think and I accept...
...or I think and you accept, or you reject or I reject...
...but together we are thinking and exploring.
Right? Please.
Because we want to point out that there is a way of living without...
...a single effort, both physically as well as psychologically.
Right? So is this normal?
We say yes, it is normal because everything struggles to exist.
Nature is in constant battle of survival...
...the tiger killing the deer and so on and so on.
That struggle, strife is normal.
Because it exists there it must exist naturally here.
And without struggle, without comparison...
...without competition, you cannot progress.
Perhaps that may be so in the technological world but we have...
...accepted it also psychologically - right?
...that the more knowledge we have the greater the ascent of man.
Right?
The more one knows about the universe...
...about the environment, the more and more, the more cultivated...
...the more educated, the more enlightened the human being becomes.
All that implies struggle.