welcome to the David Pakman show it is Tuesday we
I have a lot to discuss today great to be back from vacation we we are back I
still got emails yesterday from some people wondering when we were back it
was like hours after yesterday's show
and we're back we're back now this is this this is the show the show is
happening
and I don't wanna waste a second Louis before discussing
the incredibly progressive and and and up bro
gay rights statement from Pope Francis
or is it actually any of that stuff I don't really think it is a lot of people
making a big deal
I have a a statement that Pope Francis made he was on a flight back to Rome
and he did like a little press conference some some reporters were able
to ask questions
and he was asked about gays and the supposedly gay lobby
and according to The Wall Street Journal the pope made comments
that wearing the in the context of the questions very specifically about gay
priests
and he said we with the specific question was
how would you react if you learned that a priest
was gay and he said and the in
even more specifically that the priest was gay but not sexually active
and Pope Francis said who am I to judge a gay person
%uh goodwill who seeks the Lord you can't
marginalize these people
now a lot of people are making a big deal out of this saying this is
incredibly progressive this is a drastic change for the Catholic Church
this is really really good what's your reaction to hearing the pope's a Louis
who am I to judge a gay person if they
seek the Lord I don't think this is a big deal at all I think people are
grasping at straws here they're a little too optimistic
I think in in reality what he's saying is that
God does the judging and he could very well still believe that anyone whose
gaze is going to hell but
is just not the guy doing the judging debt is II wish
that I disagreed and that we could have some kind of disagreement over this
issue Louis but that's exactly what I thought Pope Francis number one
never said that being gay is not a sin
number two he didn't say that he thinks people who are gay
aren't going to hell or whatever else it is that he things all he said is
who is he to judge and when I hear that I read into it
it is God that will judge ultimately and that
it is still a church that condemns homosexuality
while harboring in sheltering pedophilia and child sex-abuse
broadly speaking although individually and all get emails from people saying
hey
my specific diocese
has not been involved in any of this that's perfectly fine I never have
alleged that every diocese is involved in harboring
a child predators my point is simply that this statement from Pope Francis
while it might sound
somewhat progressive it at some kind a superficial level to me it really does
nothing
at all to change my view above the church
it does not in my view indicate a change of heart
from the church on homosexuality although
I have to admit I'm I'm not Catholic but I am from Argentina
and Pope Francis from Argentina when I first heard this I actually got a little
bit excited like a
may be the first Argentinian pope actually is doing something progressive
in cool
and I would still love to be able to say that but i just
I don't think it would be accurate Louis now unfortunately
and unless he gets into specifics a little bit more and stop saying big
things like this
we'll never really know his opinion by the way even if Pope Francis is saying
I am NOT the person to judge gay people God is
and it's implied that God will judge them negatively
it is still probably way more progressive than any american
out right-wingers Hussey not only
will G will God judge gays negatively
they are also actually judging so although this is no great progressive
victory at all from the Catholic Church
it's still kinda more progressive than many American religious a
right-wingers yet I V it's a little better at least he's not going to %uh
your break bottles over over the heads gay people in and beat them operate
certainly not heed that doesn't appear he would ever think it seems a quick oMG
I