NEXT MONTH, VLADIMIR PUTIN
NEXT MONTH, VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL MARK A DECADE AS
NEXT MONTH, VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL MARK A DECADE AS PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA. HAVING
WILL MARK A DECADE AS PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA. HAVING SERVED EIGHT YEARS AS
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA. HAVING SERVED EIGHT YEARS AS PRESIDENT AS WELL BETWEEN
SERVED EIGHT YEARS AS PRESIDENT AS WELL BETWEEN 2000 AND 2008.
PRESIDENT AS WELL BETWEEN 2000 AND 2008. HE‘S BEEN IN POWER SO LONG
2000 AND 2008. HE‘S BEEN IN POWER SO LONG THAT IT‘S EASY TO FORGET JUST
HE‘S BEEN IN POWER SO LONG THAT IT‘S EASY TO FORGET JUST HOW QUICK HIS ASSENT WAS
THAT IT‘S EASY TO FORGET JUST HOW QUICK HIS ASSENT WAS IN THE LATE 1990S
HOW QUICK HIS ASSENT WAS IN THE LATE 1990S OR HOW HE HELPED CREATE A NEW
IN THE LATE 1990S OR HOW HE HELPED CREATE A NEW MODEL FOR WHAT
OR HOW HE HELPED CREATE A NEW MODEL FOR WHAT AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS WOULD
MODEL FOR WHAT AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS WOULD LOOK LIKE
AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS WOULD LOOK LIKE DICTATORS, LIKE
LOOK LIKE DICTATORS, LIKE MAO AND STALIN WILL MILITARY
DICTATORS, LIKE MAO AND STALIN WILL MILITARY UNIFORMS AND KEPT THEIR
MAO AND STALIN WILL MILITARY UNIFORMS AND KEPT THEIR POPULATIONS IN CHECK THROUGH
UNIFORMS AND KEPT THEIR POPULATIONS IN CHECK THROUGH OVERT, FEAR AND REPRESSION,
POPULATIONS IN CHECK THROUGH OVERT, FEAR AND REPRESSION, BUT IN THE LATE 20TH CENTURY,
OVERT, FEAR AND REPRESSION, BUT IN THE LATE 20TH CENTURY, SOMETHING CHANGED STRONG
BUT IN THE LATE 20TH CENTURY, SOMETHING CHANGED STRONG MEN AROUND THE WORLD.
SOMETHING CHANGED STRONG MEN AROUND THE WORLD. STARTED TURNING UP TO MEETINGS
MEN AROUND THE WORLD. STARTED TURNING UP TO MEETINGS AND
STARTED TURNING UP TO MEETINGS AND CONSERVATIVE SUITS. INSTEAD OF
AND CONSERVATIVE SUITS. INSTEAD OF MILITARY UNIFORMS MANY FLEW TO
CONSERVATIVE SUITS. INSTEAD OF MILITARY UNIFORMS MANY FLEW TO THE ANNUAL BUSINESS
MILITARY UNIFORMS MANY FLEW TO THE ANNUAL BUSINESS CONFERENCES IN PLACES LIKE
THE ANNUAL BUSINESS CONFERENCES IN PLACES LIKE DAVOS TO SCHMOOZE WITH THE
CONFERENCES IN PLACES LIKE DAVOS TO SCHMOOZE WITH THE GLOBAL ELITE.
DAVOS TO SCHMOOZE WITH THE GLOBAL ELITE. THEY DID NOT LOOSEN THEIR GRIP
GLOBAL ELITE. THEY DID NOT LOOSEN THEIR GRIP OVER THE POPULATION FAR FROM
THEY DID NOT LOOSEN THEIR GRIP OVER THE POPULATION FAR FROM IT. THEY WORKED TO DESIGN MORE
OVER THE POPULATION FAR FROM IT. THEY WORKED TO DESIGN MORE EFFECTIVE,
IT. THEY WORKED TO DESIGN MORE EFFECTIVE, INSTRUMENTS OF CONTROL, BUT
EFFECTIVE, INSTRUMENTS OF CONTROL, BUT THEY DID. SO, WHILE ACTING
INSTRUMENTS OF CONTROL, BUT THEY DID. SO, WHILE ACTING AND LOOKING THE PART OF
THEY DID. SO, WHILE ACTING AND LOOKING THE PART OF DEMOCRATS,
AND LOOKING THE PART OF DEMOCRATS, A NEW BOOK, SPIN DICTATORS,
DEMOCRATS, A NEW BOOK, SPIN DICTATORS, THE CHANGING FACE OF TYRANNY
A NEW BOOK, SPIN DICTATORS, THE CHANGING FACE OF TYRANNY IN THE 21ST CENTURY
THE CHANGING FACE OF TYRANNY IN THE 21ST CENTURY SHED, SOME LIGHT ON HOW PUTIN
IN THE 21ST CENTURY SHED, SOME LIGHT ON HOW PUTIN AND OTHER
SHED, SOME LIGHT ON HOW PUTIN AND OTHER AUTHORITARIAN,
AND OTHER AUTHORITARIAN, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE
AUTHORITARIAN, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE POWER IN A MORE PR
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE POWER IN A MORE PR FRIENDLY WAY FOR EXAMPLE,
POWER IN A MORE PR FRIENDLY WAY FOR EXAMPLE, PUTIN HAPPILY USED THE
FRIENDLY WAY FOR EXAMPLE, PUTIN HAPPILY USED THE LANGUAGE OF DEMOCRATIC
PUTIN HAPPILY USED THE LANGUAGE OF DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS IN 2011
LANGUAGE OF DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS IN 2011 PRIOR TO HIS OWN PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTIONS IN 2011 PRIOR TO HIS OWN PRESIDENTIAL WIN
PRIOR TO HIS OWN PRESIDENTIAL WIN UNTIL RECENTLY. HE HOBNOB WITH
WIN UNTIL RECENTLY. HE HOBNOB WITH THE GLOBAL ELITES WHILE
UNTIL RECENTLY. HE HOBNOB WITH THE GLOBAL ELITES WHILE WEARING HIS DESIGNER SUIT.
THE GLOBAL ELITES WHILE WEARING HIS DESIGNER SUIT. AND WHEN HE INVADED UKRAINE,
WEARING HIS DESIGNER SUIT. AND WHEN HE INVADED UKRAINE, EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE TRIED TO
AND WHEN HE INVADED UKRAINE, EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE TRIED TO COUCH IT AS A HEROIC SPECIAL
EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE TRIED TO COUCH IT AS A HEROIC SPECIAL MILITARY
COUCH IT AS A HEROIC SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION TO STORM OUT TO
MILITARY OPERATION TO STORM OUT TO STOMP OUT. EXCUSE ME, NAZISM,
OPERATION TO STORM OUT TO STOMP OUT. EXCUSE ME, NAZISM, BUT AS THE SPIN DICTATOR,
STOMP OUT. EXCUSE ME, NAZISM, BUT AS THE SPIN DICTATOR, AUTHORS REMINDERS, THIS FLASHY
BUT AS THE SPIN DICTATOR, AUTHORS REMINDERS, THIS FLASHY IMAGE DOESN‘T MAKE PUTIN ANY
AUTHORS REMINDERS, THIS FLASHY IMAGE DOESN‘T MAKE PUTIN ANY LESS AUTHORITARIAN OR
IMAGE DOESN‘T MAKE PUTIN ANY LESS AUTHORITARIAN OR BRUTAL.
LESS AUTHORITARIAN OR BRUTAL. AFTER HE WAS INAUGURATED TO
BRUTAL. AFTER HE WAS INAUGURATED TO HIS THIRD PRESIDENTIAL TERM IN
AFTER HE WAS INAUGURATED TO HIS THIRD PRESIDENTIAL TERM IN 2012,
HIS THIRD PRESIDENTIAL TERM IN 2012, PUTIN USED HIS POPULARITY AND
2012, PUTIN USED HIS POPULARITY AND CELEBRITY TO CONSOLIDATE POWER
PUTIN USED HIS POPULARITY AND CELEBRITY TO CONSOLIDATE POWER CRACKING DOWN ON ELECTION,
CELEBRITY TO CONSOLIDATE POWER CRACKING DOWN ON ELECTION, PROTESTS AND PUSHING OUT
CRACKING DOWN ON ELECTION, PROTESTS AND PUSHING OUT OPPOSITION POLITICIANS, BUT
PROTESTS AND PUSHING OUT OPPOSITION POLITICIANS, BUT WITH PICTURES COMING EVERY DAY
OPPOSITION POLITICIANS, BUT WITH PICTURES COMING EVERY DAY OF RUSSIAN ATROCITIES IN
WITH PICTURES COMING EVERY DAY OF RUSSIAN ATROCITIES IN UKRAINE,
OF RUSSIAN ATROCITIES IN UKRAINE, SURELY THAT SOFTER, MORE
UKRAINE, SURELY THAT SOFTER, MORE MODERATE IMAGE, THAT PUTIN
SURELY THAT SOFTER, MORE MODERATE IMAGE, THAT PUTIN TRIED TO MANUFACTURE AND FOR
MODERATE IMAGE, THAT PUTIN TRIED TO MANUFACTURE AND FOR HIMSELF IS OVER.
TRIED TO MANUFACTURE AND FOR HIMSELF IS OVER. WHAT DOES THE SPIN DICTATOR
HIMSELF IS OVER. WHAT DOES THE SPIN DICTATOR HAVE A WAY OUT WITH ME NOW
WHAT DOES THE SPIN DICTATOR HAVE A WAY OUT WITH ME NOW TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE
HAVE A WAY OUT WITH ME NOW TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IS DANIEL TRADESMEN,
TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IS DANIEL TRADESMEN, ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS IS DANIEL TRADESMEN, ONE OF THE CO-AUTHORS OF
ONE OF THE CO-AUTHORS OF DICTATORS THE CHANGING FACE OF
CO-AUTHORS OF DICTATORS THE CHANGING FACE OF TYRANNY IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
DICTATORS THE CHANGING FACE OF TYRANNY IN THE 21ST CENTURY. HE‘S A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL
TYRANNY IN THE 21ST CENTURY. HE‘S A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AT UCLA
HE‘S A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AT UCLA DANIEL. THANKS SO MUCH FOR
SCIENCE AT UCLA DANIEL. THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW. YOU
DANIEL. THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW. YOU WRITE THAT SPIN DICTATORS
COMING ON THE SHOW. YOU WRITE THAT SPIN DICTATORS DON‘T OPENLY CENTER THEIR
WRITE THAT SPIN DICTATORS DON‘T OPENLY CENTER THEIR MEDIA AND VISIBLE VIOLENCE
DON‘T OPENLY CENTER THEIR MEDIA AND VISIBLE VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PUBLIC IS A MARK
MEDIA AND VISIBLE VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PUBLIC IS A MARK OF FAILURE. IT UNDERCUTS, THE
AGAINST THE PUBLIC IS A MARK OF FAILURE. IT UNDERCUTS, THE DESIRED IMAGE OF ENLIGHTENED
OF FAILURE. IT UNDERCUTS, THE DESIRED IMAGE OF ENLIGHTENED RESPONSIVE LEADERSHIP, GIVEN
DESIRED IMAGE OF ENLIGHTENED RESPONSIVE LEADERSHIP, GIVEN THE FACT THAT PUTIN HAS SHUT
RESPONSIVE LEADERSHIP, GIVEN THE FACT THAT PUTIN HAS SHUT DOWN THE LAST INDEPENDENT,
THE FACT THAT PUTIN HAS SHUT DOWN THE LAST INDEPENDENT, TELEVISION STATIONS, AND
DOWN THE LAST INDEPENDENT, TELEVISION STATIONS, AND RUSSIA IS NOW PERPETRATING
TELEVISION STATIONS, AND RUSSIA IS NOW PERPETRATING HORRIFIC VISIBLE VIOLENCE.
RUSSIA IS NOW PERPETRATING HORRIFIC VISIBLE VIOLENCE. DOES HE STILL QUALIFY AS A
HORRIFIC VISIBLE VIOLENCE. DOES HE STILL QUALIFY AS A SPIN DICTATOR IN YOUR
IN FACT, HE‘S A GREAT EXAMPLE
IN FACT, HE‘S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO STARTED OUT
IN FACT, HE‘S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO STARTED OUT REALLY AS A PIONEER OF THIS
OF SOMEBODY WHO STARTED OUT REALLY AS A PIONEER OF THIS NEW MODEL OF DICTATORSHIP,
REALLY AS A PIONEER OF THIS NEW MODEL OF DICTATORSHIP, WHICH IS JUST MUCH MORE SUBTLE
NEW MODEL OF DICTATORSHIP, WHICH IS JUST MUCH MORE SUBTLE LESS, OVERTLY VIOLENT
WHICH IS JUST MUCH MORE SUBTLE LESS, OVERTLY VIOLENT AND RELYING, MUCH MORE ON
LESS, OVERTLY VIOLENT AND RELYING, MUCH MORE ON MANIPULATING INFORMATION,
AND RELYING, MUCH MORE ON MANIPULATING INFORMATION, BUT IN THE END
MANIPULATING INFORMATION, BUT IN THE END REVERTED BACK TO WHAT WE CALL
BUT IN THE END REVERTED BACK TO WHAT WE CALL FEAR DICTATORSHIP, WHICH IS
REVERTED BACK TO WHAT WE CALL FEAR DICTATORSHIP, WHICH IS THE
FEAR DICTATORSHIP, WHICH IS THE MODEL OF THE CLASSIC DICTATORS
THE MODEL OF THE CLASSIC DICTATORS OF THE 20TH CENTURY,
MODEL OF THE CLASSIC DICTATORS OF THE 20TH CENTURY, VERY VIOLENT
OF THE 20TH CENTURY, VERY VIOLENT OPENLY REPRESSIVE
VERY VIOLENT OPENLY REPRESSIVE IN
OPENLY REPRESSIVE IN BASED ON
IN BASED ON TERRORIZING SOCIETY RATHER
BASED ON TERRORIZING SOCIETY RATHER THAN
TERRORIZING SOCIETY RATHER THAN RULING
THAN RULING IT AND TO
RULING IT AND TO GENUINE SUPPORT.
IT AND TO GENUINE SUPPORT. YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT
GENUINE SUPPORT. YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE HALLMARKS
YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE HALLMARKS OF THIS NEW KIND OF
UNDERSTANDING OF THE HALLMARKS OF THIS NEW KIND OF DICTATOR, QUOTE,
OF THIS NEW KIND OF DICTATOR, QUOTE, MANIPULATING THE MEDIA
DICTATOR, QUOTE, MANIPULATING THE MEDIA ENGINEERING POPULARITY, FAKING
MANIPULATING THE MEDIA ENGINEERING POPULARITY, FAKING DEMOCRACY, LIMITING PUBLIC
ENGINEERING POPULARITY, FAKING DEMOCRACY, LIMITING PUBLIC VIOLENCE AND OPENING UP TO THE
DEMOCRACY, LIMITING PUBLIC VIOLENCE AND OPENING UP TO THE WORLD IS CRUCIAL FOR THE
VIOLENCE AND OPENING UP TO THE WORLD IS CRUCIAL FOR THE WEST TO CRAFT
WORLD IS CRUCIAL FOR THE WEST TO CRAFT EFFECTIVE RESPONSES. WHAT DO
YOU THINK IS AN EFFECTIVE
YOU THINK IS AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FROM THE WEST?
YOU THINK IS AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FROM THE WEST? WELL, AT THIS POINT
RESPONSE FROM THE WEST? WELL, AT THIS POINT PUTIN IS CLEARLY A FEAR
WELL, AT THIS POINT PUTIN IS CLEARLY A FEAR DICTATOR. HE‘S ENGAGED
PUTIN IS CLEARLY A FEAR DICTATOR. HE‘S ENGAGED IN
DICTATOR. HE‘S ENGAGED IN LEVEL OF AGGRESSION THAT
IN LEVEL OF AGGRESSION THAT NOBODY EXPECTED UNTIL VERY
LEVEL OF AGGRESSION THAT NOBODY EXPECTED UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.
NOBODY EXPECTED UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. AND THE ONLY
RECENTLY. AND THE ONLY RESPONSE IS SANCTIONS
AND THE ONLY RESPONSE IS SANCTIONS BEEFING UP. THE
RESPONSE IS SANCTIONS BEEFING UP. THE DEFENSES OF NATO
BEEFING UP. THE DEFENSES OF NATO CONTAINMENT
DEFENSES OF NATO CONTAINMENT AND
CONTAINMENT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT
AND ALL THE THINGS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO WORRY
ALL THE THINGS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO WORRY ABOUT DURING THE COLD WAR
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO WORRY ABOUT DURING THE COLD WAR BUT FOR OTHERS SPIN DICTATORS.
ABOUT DURING THE COLD WAR BUT FOR OTHERS SPIN DICTATORS. PEOPLE LIKE
BUT FOR OTHERS SPIN DICTATORS. PEOPLE LIKE VIKTOR ORBAN IN HUNGARY.
PEOPLE LIKE VIKTOR ORBAN IN HUNGARY. THE LATE
VIKTOR ORBAN IN HUNGARY. THE LATE HUGO, CHAVEZ IN VENEZUELA.
THE LATE HUGO, CHAVEZ IN VENEZUELA. LEADERS OF SINGAPORE.
HUGO, CHAVEZ IN VENEZUELA. LEADERS OF SINGAPORE. THEN THE
LEADERS OF SINGAPORE. THEN THE BEST STRATEGY
THEN THE BEST STRATEGY IS
BEST STRATEGY IS BRO.
IS BRO. FIRST OF ALL,
BRO. FIRST OF ALL, TO BE MUCH MORE AWARE OF WHAT
FIRST OF ALL, TO BE MUCH MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY‘RE DOING
TO BE MUCH MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY‘RE DOING TO
THEY‘RE DOING TO MONITOR MORE
TO MONITOR MORE CAREFULLY, THE
MONITOR MORE CAREFULLY, THE TRADE AND
CAREFULLY, THE TRADE AND INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL LINKS
TRADE AND INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL LINKS WITH THESE COUNTRIES
INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL LINKS WITH THESE COUNTRIES AND THE VARIOUS
WITH THESE COUNTRIES AND THE VARIOUS WAYS IN WHICH THEY TRY TO SEEK
AND THE VARIOUS WAYS IN WHICH THEY TRY TO SEEK INFLUENCE
WAYS IN WHICH THEY TRY TO SEEK INFLUENCE AND PURSUE NON-DEMOCRATIC
INFLUENCE AND PURSUE NON-DEMOCRATIC GOALS
AND PURSUE NON-DEMOCRATIC GOALS THROUGH INTERNATIONAL
GOALS THROUGH INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, AND THROUGH
THROUGH INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, AND THROUGH INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS.
INSTITUTIONS, AND THROUGH INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. SO WE‘VE GOT A MONITOR THAT
INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. SO WE‘VE GOT A MONITOR THAT WE‘VE ALSO GOT TO BUILD
SO WE‘VE GOT A MONITOR THAT WE‘VE ALSO GOT TO BUILD UP OUR DEFENSES
WE‘VE ALSO GOT TO BUILD UP OUR DEFENSES AGAINST
UP OUR DEFENSES AGAINST THINGS LIKE
AGAINST THINGS LIKE MONEY, LAUNDERING.
THINGS LIKE MONEY, LAUNDERING. AND INFLUENCE PEDDLING IN THE
MONEY, LAUNDERING. AND INFLUENCE PEDDLING IN THE WEST
AND INFLUENCE PEDDLING IN THE WEST USING OF CORRUPTION
WEST USING OF CORRUPTION TO PURSUE
USING OF CORRUPTION TO PURSUE GOALS, WHICH HAVE
TO PURSUE GOALS, WHICH HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH UNDERMINING,
GOALS, WHICH HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH UNDERMINING, WESTERN INSTITUTIONS. AND SO
A LOT TO DO WITH UNDERMINING, WESTERN INSTITUTIONS. AND SO ON.
WESTERN INSTITUTIONS. AND SO ON. SO
ON. SO THE BIG PROBLEM IS IN THE
SO THE BIG PROBLEM IS IN THE PAST.
THE BIG PROBLEM IS IN THE PAST. WE‘VE SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT
PAST. WE‘VE SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT DICTATORSHIP AS
WE‘VE SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT DICTATORSHIP AS AS BEING IDENTIFIED
DICTATORSHIP AS AS BEING IDENTIFIED WITH THIS.
AS BEING IDENTIFIED WITH THIS. BRUTAL.
WITH THIS. BRUTAL. OBVIOUS MODEL
BRUTAL. OBVIOUS MODEL AND WE HAVEN‘T KNOWN WHAT TO
OBVIOUS MODEL AND WE HAVEN‘T KNOWN WHAT TO CALL PEOPLE LIKE THE EARLY
AND WE HAVEN‘T KNOWN WHAT TO CALL PEOPLE LIKE THE EARLY PUTIN OF THE EARLY ERDOWAN
CALL PEOPLE LIKE THE EARLY PUTIN OF THE EARLY ERDOWAN OR HUGO CHAVEZ AND SO
PUTIN OF THE EARLY ERDOWAN OR HUGO CHAVEZ AND SO THEY BOUGHT SOME DON‘T
OR HUGO CHAVEZ AND SO THEY BOUGHT SOME DON‘T ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU
THEY BOUGHT SOME DON‘T ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY WE CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY WE CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE FEAR AND THE SPIN NOW
SAY WE CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE FEAR AND THE SPIN NOW LEADERS LIKE VLADIMIR PUTIN,
THE FEAR AND THE SPIN NOW LEADERS LIKE VLADIMIR PUTIN, KIM JONG ON. THEY WOULD
LEADERS LIKE VLADIMIR PUTIN, KIM JONG ON. THEY WOULD GENERALLY SEEN IN THE WEST AS
KIM JONG ON. THEY WOULD GENERALLY SEEN IN THE WEST AS DANGEROUS OR TWO CRABS.
GENERALLY SEEN IN THE WEST AS DANGEROUS OR TWO CRABS. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY TO
DANGEROUS OR TWO CRABS. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY TO SPIN THEIR IMAGES. BUT WHAT
NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY TO SPIN THEIR IMAGES. BUT WHAT ABOUT LEADERS? WHAT ABOUT
SPIN THEIR IMAGES. BUT WHAT ABOUT LEADERS? WHAT ABOUT ALLIES?
ABOUT LEADERS? WHAT ABOUT ALLIES? LEADERS OF ALLIED COUNTRIES,
ALLIES? LEADERS OF ALLIED COUNTRIES, LIKE SAUDI CROWN PRINCE,
LEADERS OF ALLIED COUNTRIES, LIKE SAUDI CROWN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN
LIKE SAUDI CROWN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN, WHO‘S BEEN ABLE TO
MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN, WHO‘S BEEN ABLE TO SPIN INTO SOME AMERICAN
SALMAN, WHO‘S BEEN ABLE TO SPIN INTO SOME AMERICAN AUDIENCE? ESPECIALLY ELITE
SPIN INTO SOME AMERICAN AUDIENCE? ESPECIALLY ELITE ESPECIALLY ELITE AUDIENCE,
AUDIENCE? ESPECIALLY ELITE ESPECIALLY ELITE AUDIENCE, SPIN THEM INTO BELIEVING. HE‘S
ESPECIALLY ELITE AUDIENCE, SPIN THEM INTO BELIEVING. HE‘S A REFORMER THAT HE‘S LEADING
SPIN THEM INTO BELIEVING. HE‘S A REFORMER THAT HE‘S LEADING SAUDI ARABIA TO
A REFORMER THAT HE‘S LEADING SAUDI ARABIA TO DEMOCRACY.
SAUDI ARABIA TO DEMOCRACY. WELL, I THINK THAT REFLECTS ON
DEMOCRACY. WELL, I THINK THAT REFLECTS ON THE LISTENERS
WELL, I THINK THAT REFLECTS ON THE LISTENERS RATHER RATHER THAN THE SAUDI
THE LISTENERS RATHER RATHER THAN THE SAUDI REGIME
RATHER RATHER THAN THE SAUDI REGIME PEOPLE HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO
REGIME PEOPLE HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, BUT IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR
PEOPLE HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, BUT IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR THAT SAUDI ARABIA
HEAR, BUT IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR THAT SAUDI ARABIA USES A HIGH LEVEL
THAT SAUDI ARABIA USES A HIGH LEVEL OF
USES A HIGH LEVEL OF VIOLENT REPRESSION
OF VIOLENT REPRESSION AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO TRY TO
VIOLENT REPRESSION AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO TRY TO CONCEAL THAT
AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO TRY TO CONCEAL THAT IN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS.
CONCEAL THAT IN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR WITHIN THE
IN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR WITHIN THE COUNTRY,
IT‘S PRETTY CLEAR WITHIN THE COUNTRY, WHAT THE LIMITS OF
COUNTRY, WHAT THE LIMITS OF PERMISSIBLE
WHAT THE LIMITS OF PERMISSIBLE POLITICAL BEHAVIOR ARE
PERMISSIBLE POLITICAL BEHAVIOR ARE BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE
POLITICAL BEHAVIOR ARE BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY LIKE VIKTOR ORBAN AND HUNGARY
OBVIOUSLY LIKE VIKTOR ORBAN AND HUNGARY WHO HAS REALLY EXPLOITED
LIKE VIKTOR ORBAN AND HUNGARY WHO HAS REALLY EXPLOITED THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAVE
WHO HAS REALLY EXPLOITED THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAVE IN IDENTIFYING, WHAT TYPE OF
THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAVE IN IDENTIFYING, WHAT TYPE OF REGIME HE LEADS.
IN IDENTIFYING, WHAT TYPE OF REGIME HE LEADS. HE‘S BENEFITED FROM MASSIVE.
REGIME HE LEADS. HE‘S BENEFITED FROM MASSIVE. TRANSFERS OF
HE‘S BENEFITED FROM MASSIVE. TRANSFERS OF EU FUNDS AND
TRANSFERS OF EU FUNDS AND HE‘S USED THEM TO CONSOLIDATE
EU FUNDS AND HE‘S USED THEM TO CONSOLIDATE A REGIME WHICH IS LESS
HE‘S USED THEM TO CONSOLIDATE A REGIME WHICH IS LESS AND LESS
A REGIME WHICH IS LESS AND LESS EVEN PRETENDING TO BE
AND LESS EVEN PRETENDING TO BE FULLY
EVEN PRETENDING TO BE FULLY DEMOCRATIC.
FULLY DEMOCRATIC. YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT. I KNOW
DEMOCRATIC. YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT. I KNOW ABOUT, OF COURSE, RE-ELECTED
YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT. I KNOW ABOUT, OF COURSE, RE-ELECTED THIS WEEK. YOU SAY
ABOUT, OF COURSE, RE-ELECTED THIS WEEK. YOU SAY THAT IT‘S IMPORTANT IN THE
THIS WEEK. YOU SAY THAT IT‘S IMPORTANT IN THE BOOK, YOU SAY, IT‘S IMPORTANT
THAT IT‘S IMPORTANT IN THE BOOK, YOU SAY, IT‘S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A ROBUST
BOOK, YOU SAY, IT‘S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A ROBUST RESISTANCE OF INFORMED
TO HAVE A ROBUST RESISTANCE OF INFORMED CITIZENS TO SECURE THE
RESISTANCE OF INFORMED CITIZENS TO SECURE THE INSTITUTIONS OF FREE
CITIZENS TO SECURE THE INSTITUTIONS OF FREE GOVERNMENT AND MAKE THEM WORK.
INSTITUTIONS OF FREE GOVERNMENT AND MAKE THEM WORK. CONSIDERING THAT 40% OF
GOVERNMENT AND MAKE THEM WORK. CONSIDERING THAT 40% OF AMERICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE THAT
CONSIDERING THAT 40% OF AMERICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN WAS LEGITIMATELY
AMERICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN WAS LEGITIMATELY ELECTED
JOE BIDEN WAS LEGITIMATELY ELECTED AND A VAST MAJORITY OF
ELECTED AND A VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE
AND A VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE HE‘S LEGITIMATELY ELECTED. DO
REPUBLICANS. DO NOT BELIEVE HE‘S LEGITIMATELY ELECTED. DO YOU THINK IT‘S POSSIBLE TO
HE‘S LEGITIMATELY ELECTED. DO YOU THINK IT‘S POSSIBLE TO HAVE A ROBUST RESISTANCE OF
YOU THINK IT‘S POSSIBLE TO HAVE A ROBUST RESISTANCE OF INFORMED CITIZENS IN AMERICA
HAVE A ROBUST RESISTANCE OF INFORMED CITIZENS IN AMERICA TODAY? WHAT IS THE STATE OF
INFORMED CITIZENS IN AMERICA TODAY? WHAT IS THE STATE OF STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IN
TODAY? WHAT IS THE STATE OF STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IN THE
WELL, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED.
WELL, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED. OBVIOUSLY, WE‘VE SEEN
WELL, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED. OBVIOUSLY, WE‘VE SEEN MANY THINGS HAPPEN IN THE LAST
OBVIOUSLY, WE‘VE SEEN MANY THINGS HAPPEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. THAT NOBODY
MANY THINGS HAPPEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. THAT NOBODY ANTICIPATED
FEW YEARS. THAT NOBODY ANTICIPATED AND IN SOME WAYS
ANTICIPATED AND IN SOME WAYS DONALD TRUMP IS
AND IN SOME WAYS DONALD TRUMP IS VERY MUCH TRYING TO DO
DONALD TRUMP IS VERY MUCH TRYING TO DO WHAT‘S BEEN DICTATORS HAVE
VERY MUCH TRYING TO DO WHAT‘S BEEN DICTATORS HAVE DONE IN LESS DEVELOPED
WHAT‘S BEEN DICTATORS HAVE DONE IN LESS DEVELOPED DEMOCRACIES AND
DONE IN LESS DEVELOPED DEMOCRACIES AND LESS CONSOLIDATED DEMOCRACIES
DEMOCRACIES AND LESS CONSOLIDATED DEMOCRACIES TRYING TO APPEAL
LESS CONSOLIDATED DEMOCRACIES TRYING TO APPEAL THROUGH TWITTER WITH
TRYING TO APPEAL THROUGH TWITTER WITH SOPHISTICATED
THROUGH TWITTER WITH SOPHISTICATED PROPAGANDA TO HIS BASE,
SOPHISTICATED PROPAGANDA TO HIS BASE, CALLING THE MEDIA FAKE NEWS.
PROPAGANDA TO HIS BASE, CALLING THE MEDIA FAKE NEWS. THE, THE INDEPENDENT MEDIA,
CALLING THE MEDIA FAKE NEWS. THE, THE INDEPENDENT MEDIA, AND SO ON, AND CLEARLY HE
THE, THE INDEPENDENT MEDIA, AND SO ON, AND CLEARLY HE WANTED
AND SO ON, AND CLEARLY HE WANTED TO
WANTED TO TO ELIMINATE
TO TO ELIMINATE CHECKS AND BALANCES ELIMINATE
TO ELIMINATE CHECKS AND BALANCES ELIMINATE CONTROLS ON HIS POWER,
CHECKS AND BALANCES ELIMINATE CONTROLS ON HIS POWER, BUT HE FAILED AND
CONTROLS ON HIS POWER, BUT HE FAILED AND I THINK THAT
BUT HE FAILED AND I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THE U.S.
I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THE U.S. DOES HAVE THIS RESILIENCE.
SHOWS THAT THE U.S. DOES HAVE THIS RESILIENCE. IT MAY HAVE BEEN A CLOSE CALL
DOES HAVE THIS RESILIENCE. IT MAY HAVE BEEN A CLOSE CALL WE TIMES, BUT
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A CLOSE CALL WE TIMES, BUT BUT IT WAS A CLOSE CALL. I
WE TIMES, BUT BUT IT WAS A CLOSE CALL. I GUESS SOME OF US ARE STILL
BUT IT WAS A CLOSE CALL. I GUESS SOME OF US ARE STILL WORRIED ABOUT
GUESS SOME OF US ARE STILL WORRIED ABOUT 2024. DANIEL TRADESMEN. THANK
WORRIED ABOUT 2024. DANIEL TRADESMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
2024. DANIEL TRADESMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. HE IS CO-AUTHOR OF SPIN
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