>> PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH THE
DEFENDANT POLICE MOVEMENT.
AMERICA IS FED UP WITH
LAWLESSNESS THAT THEY SEE, THE
CHAOS AND ANARCHY THE LOSS OF
LAW AND ORDER AND THEY SEE THE
SITUATION THE POLICE HAVE BEEN
DEFUNDED AND DEMORALIZED.
THEY ARE NOT THERE, WHO COMES IN
TO HELP A MARINE COMING FROM HIS
CLASS, I INTERVIEWED HIS LAWYER
HE IS STARTING TO BE AN
ARCHITECT, HE’S NOT THERE TO DO
ANYTHING OTHER THAN RIDE THE
TRAIN TO GO TO THE GYM AS I
UNDERSTAND IT.
AMERICA IS LOOKING AT THIS AND
SAY WHEN HE’S MENTALLY ILL ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY IN
BIG CITIES TO HARASS, INJURE AND
WORSE WHO’S GOING TO BE THERE TO
PROTECT US.
>> HE WAS THERE TO PROTECT US,
SOME TAKE ENTRY CASES THAT TAKE
ON A LIFE OF THEIR OWN THEY
BECOME EMBLEMATIC OF A SITUATION
IN THE CITY MARINE VETERAN
DANIEL PENNY IS PRECISELY THAT
WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SUBWAY
HE SUBDUED JORDAN NEELY AND
JORDAN NEELY DIED.
WERE HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME
FROM DANIEL PENNY HIMSELF AND
THE COVER OF THE NEW YORK TIMES
THIS MORNING.
>> EXCUSE ME NEW YORK POST.
NOTHING ABOUT RACE BECAUSE THE
LEFT IMMEDIATELY JUMPED TO THE
RACE OF THE PERPETRATOR IN THE
RACE OF DANIEL PENNY AND THIS IS
WHAT HE SAID TO THE NEW YORK
POST.
HE SAID THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH RACE.
I JUDGE A PERSON BASED ON THE
CHARACTER.
I’M NOT A WHITE SUPREMACIST.
IT’S A LITTLE BIT COMICAL
EVERYBODY WHO’S EVER MET ME CAN
TELL YOU I LOVE ALL PEOPLE I
LOVE ALL CULTURES AND COULD TELL
BY MY PASTOR MY TRAVELS AND
ADVENTURES AROUND THE WORLD.
I WAS PLANNING A ROAD TRIP
THROUGH AFRICA BEFORE THIS
HAPPENED.
WE WILL FINALLY HEAR FROM HIM.
>> IT’S GREAT TO HEAR FROM THEM.
THE STORY IN THE NEW YORK POST
IS INTERESTING YOU GET BACK ON
WHERE HE WAS RAISED AND HIS
PARENTS WERE DIVORCED AND FROM
THE DIVORCE HE AND HIS THREE
SISTERS BECAME REALLY, REALLY
CLOSE.
I THINK TO ME THAT STUCK OUT
BECAUSE THIS IS THE GUY WHO
TAKES CARE OF HIS SISTERS WHO IS
A MARINE AND DEFEND OUR COUNTRY
SO HE HAS A PERSONALITY IN THE
TRAIT AND IS ON THE TRAIN.
HE SEES SOMEBODY.
HE DID NOT KNOW THIS BUT JORDAN
NEELY WAS ARRESTED 42 TIMES THIS
IS NOT SOMEBODY WITH A ONE-OFF
EPISODE.
HERE HE TALKS ABOUT THE THREAT
HE FELT ON THE TRAIN.
BECAUSE REMEMBER HE HAS WRITTEN
WRITTEN HE GOES TO THE GYM AND
TO GO TO CLASS AND HE SAID THIS
TIME IS MUCH DIFFERENT I TELL
YOU THE THREATS, THE MENACING
AND THE TERROR THAT THEY
INTRODUCED TO THE TRAIN HAS BEEN
WELL DOCUMENTED.
ANALOGOUS CAN BE CONTROVERTED
THERE ARE NUMEROUS WITNESSES
FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE
WHO HAVE NO MOTIVE TO DO
ANYTHING THAN TO RECOUNT WHAT
HAPPENED.
I’M DEEPLY SADDENED BY THE LOSS
OF LIFE.
HIS TRAGIC WILL HAPPEN TO HIM.
HOPEFULLY WE COULD CHANGE THE
SYSTEM THAT SO DESPERATELY
FAILED US WHICH IS INTERESTING
WE TALK ABOUT THE FAILURES OF
MENTAL HEALTH CARE FOR JORDAN
NEELY BUT THE SYSTEM FAILED THE
PEOPLE TRAPPED ON THE TRAIN WITH
THEM AND LEFT TO THE YOUNG MAN
TO DEFEND THEM.
>> IS INTERESTING DANIEL PENNY
TO SPEAK OUT AND BEGIN TO GIVE
YOU INSIGHT OF WHO HE IS.
I WANTED TO HEAR FROM DANIEL
PENNY FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND
UNDERSTOOD WHY HE CHOSE NOT TO
SPEAK OUT PUBLIC.
THIS IS AFTER THE FUNERAL
EARLIER THIS WEEK OF JORDAN
NEELY.
IT IS INTERESTING THAT HE CHOSE
TO SHARE HIS STORY.
I CANNOT WAIT I THINK IT’S
PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE TO HEAR
FROM PENNY BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE
THAT RODE THE TRAIN THAT DAY
THAT HE REFERENCES IN THE QUOTE
THAT THEY WILL BE UNIFORM AND
THEIR TESTIMONY THAT THEY WERE
TERRIFIED THEY WERE MENACED ON
THE SUBWAY.
IT’LL BE FASCINATING TO HEAR
FROM THE OTHER WITNESSES.
>> WHEN THIS FIRST BROKE YOU
KEYED ON ON SOMETHING FRONT AND
CENTER AS A FREQUENT WRITER OF
THE SUBWAY.
THIS WAS DIFFERENT.
>> YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAID
THAT.
>> IT’S TRUE IF YOU’RE NEW TO
THE SUBWAY EVERYTHING MIGHT LOOK
LIKE A THREAT BUT IF YOU’VE
WRITTEN IT A LOT YOU REALIZE
WHEN ONE INSTANCE IS DIFFERENT
AND YOU HEAR A LOT OF CONFIDENCE
IN WHAT HE HAD TO DO IN THE
MOMENT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING AND I’M SURE WE WE WE WI
FROM THE FELLOW TRAVELERS WHAT
HAPPENED AND HOW TO ESCALATE.
>> IS A GREAT POINT WHEN YOU
LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY YOU SEE SO
MUCH WEIRD STUFF AND WHEN YOU’RE
NOT FROM NEW YORK CITY.
I WAS TALKING THE OTHER DAY WE
STAYED IN THE SAME HOTEL THE
OTHER DAY.
I WON’T SAY WHICH HOTEL BUT I
SAW SOMETHING IN THE LOBBY AND
EVERYONE ACTED SO NORMAL BECAUSE
NEW YORKERS ARE USED TO PEOPLE
HAVING OUTBURST.
PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS GOING TO
GET A DRINK AS SOMEBODY WAS
FREAKING OUT AND LOOK LIKE A
DRUG EPISODE AND THAT’S NORMAL
IN NEW YORK CITY.
IT’S INTERESTING YOU WERE ONE OF
THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BRING IT UP
HE’S WRITTEN THE TRAIN A LOT
HE’S FROM QUEENS AND LIVES IN
QUEENS.
HE SEEN A LOT THIS TIME MUST’VE
FELT DIFFERENT - THIS IS WHY AM
HAPPY TO HEAR FROM DANIEL PENNY
AND WITNESSES.
EVERYTHING THAT WE’VE HEARD
INCLUDING OUR OWN COMMENTARY IS
OFTEN THE PRISM OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVE SEEN A VIDEO.
PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE SECONDHAND,
THE NARRATIVE DRIVEN BY GRACE
HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY PEOPLE WHO DO
NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON THE
TRAIN.
WHEN WE HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE
PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED WE GET
ACTUAL TESTIMONY YOU DON’T HAVE
TO GO BACK TO UNDERSTAND THE
LIMITATION OF WATCHING THE
VIDEO.
WE SEE VIDEO AND THINK WERE A
PASSENGER ON THE TRAIN AS WELL.
YOUR PASSENGERS IN A MOMENT OF
TIME LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO THE
CITY BIKE.
>> LIKE THE NURSE.