today's badge cam reminds us of why leg
shots are a terrible idea
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deputies outside here just minding their
own business when dude walks up with a
big hammer starts threatening a deputy
with it
throws it at him just as the deputy
that's on screen there shoots him in the
leg
and now both deputies have their gun out
on him
and he is willing to fight them and it
looks like the opening scene
of a video game here as he's got his
hands out and wants to fight him and
you're gonna watch them
back away and he is going to back them
right off camera thankfully we have
another angle of it here because
the action is going to continue here we
see the other angle
this guy was a prohibited possessor with
a long history of law enforcement
problems
and violent offenses so he comes out we
have no idea why he did this but he
grabs a hammer and
throws it at the deputy gets shot for it
by the other deputy that he wasn't
throwing the hammer at
and now they recognize okay i've got a
gun out on this guy but what exactly am
i going to do at this point
because again he wants to fight them but
he's not exactly a deadly threat at this
point because he doesn't have the hammer
anymore he's actually
thrown that hammer so they're just going
to give him space and keep issuing him
commands
and now you're going to see a whole
bunch of deputies show up and start in
with the firearms here and you're going
to see a lot of folks show up and now it
is going to turn into a bit of a firing
squad at this point so what you're going
to watch here is you're going to watch
some of them
is gonna realize pretty quick here okay
let's go in with
a baton he's gonna try in here and try
to hit him
in the perineal nerve cluster there
above his knee but that's ineffective
but you're gonna finally see the other
officer to the far left here when
there's a whole
line of cops they are finally going to
give him some commands he's not willing
to surrender he's not willing to lay
down again he's been shot in the leg
here
and they've got to get this guy into
custody so they finally tase him the
taser is quite effective
locks him right up and now we get a
polyester pile up in order to get this
guy
into custody whole bunches of them he's
facing just a
whole rap sheet of charges here uh you
know for what he has done
no one else was injured in this one
thankfully the hammer missed the deputy
and that is where this one ends
bunches and bunches of lessons for us to
think about out of this one
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if god forbid you ever have to use your
handgun in a defensive gun fight
let's think about lessons today it's an
awful lot for us to think about on this
one but
recognize here these deputies are not
looking for a fight with this guy
they're just letting people into the
courthouse and those kinds of things but
the fight is going to come to them this
is a difference between you know
law enforcement encounters and private
citizen encounters because private
citizen almost never encounters somebody
just wants to hit him with a hammer
like this this guy just wants a fight
with the cops my guess is is he is
looking for them
uh in order to commit suicide by cop
would be my guess at this point
so their you know entrance to this fight
is to see this guy at around 15
feet or 20 feet uh bust out the hammer
and start
talking at them now of course you got to
respond in that moment but it's going to
take you a minute to see what's going on
observe and then orient yourself to it
decide what you're going to do
and then act that's that ooda loop that
colonel boyd
first came up with so it's going to take
them a second to realize that
but recognize when they finally see holy
cow you see them start going for the gun
here now we've got to talk about
what would have happened had they been
faster and realize what was going on so
when they got their stimulus it's go
time
now then if they had had a one second
draw in presentation this was the
presentation they would have gotten
so so when we talk about that that
advanced standard that black belt
standard
you know that master standard of getting
your gun out of the holster in a one
second drawing presentation
this is why because if they had gotten
that fast of a presentation
this is the what they would have seen in
that moment now if they had gotten a 1.5
second draw to first shot not a one
second then this is what
she would have seen so again the female
deputy here if she had a 1.5 or the male
deputy at that point
you can see the fact that she's actually
faster to the gun than the male deputy
is
than the female deputy on the left-hand
side has her gun out and is in the
process of presenting but if she'd had
a faster draw then she would have had a
cleaner and better shot at this point
and would have been less danger to
herself and to everybody else which is
why we say a fast shot is important
so now we finally get to the place where
we get a two second draw to first shot
and if they had a two second draw to
first shot again this is what we would
have seen could have been very different
now thankfully
this guy sucks at throwing hammers and
i'm very grateful for that
but this is why we say a fast and
accurate draw and first shot
on target is so incredibly important and
and i can't tell you enough whether
you're in law enforcement or a private
citizen you gotta practice that draw the
first shot
until it is absolutely ingrained it is
the number one key to winning a gunfight
successfully now then
let's see what our officer finally did
you see her advancing in on the guy and
here is where she is going to make that
decision
you can see where her eyeballs are here
and where her gun is and my big
challenge is
the fact of the matter is is that she's
not looking at her sights she has got
that gun
low and that when she presses the
trigger it's going to go lower still
so you can see the fact right now that
she actually is on the gun and on the
trigger so she has her finger on the
trigger here
ready to rock and you can see the fact
that she is now in that firing position
but not using your sights
train yourself to use your sights
friends because you don't she didn't
intend to shoot this guy in the leg at
all and how do we know that because what
we can see here
is as the shot is about to break you can
see the fact that that gun is now moving
upward
but it was moving downward when the shot
broke so she
had the gun up and then it dipped really
hard so we want to train our firearms
fundamentals until they are
absolutely unequivocally solid now i get
that when we say wait a minute it's not
a bad
outcome here the fact of the matter is
he was shot in the leg and therefore he
wasn't killed that's true
but that put the other deputy at
significant risk
and i think that it would have been a
better choice here to hit him in the
high center chest
and then get him to the hospital quickly
he probably would have survived anyways
why
because look at this here this is why i
don't recommend leg shots one of the
biggest reasons i don't is you recognize
this guy's not out of the fight
had he not thrown that hammer but
instead just swung it
he is still 100 up and able he is shot
in the leg and i know a lot of times
we're saying oh shoot him in the leg
shoot him in the leg shoot him in the
leg
but friends that's inane he is a hundred
percent still a threat here and this is
one of the big reasons that shooting him
in the leg is a terrible idea
so we see it from the other angle here i
want to kind of get let it get going is
again he's gonna come
out here and seeing it in real speed get
the gun out quickly and get his shot on
target it takes bang right there
how long it takes for that to happen and
he is still a hundred percent a threat
here
now is he a deadly threat no and that's
why the officers stopped shooting
so he was a deadly threat when the shot
broke and i think that was a very
justified shot
but now they recognize wait a minute the
guy doesn't have any any weapons in his
hands or anything like that he's an
ordinary threat so they're
they're again trying to take him at
gunpoint and issue commands but not
shooting and i think that is exemplary
that's exactly what they should do but
at some point you got to recognize i got
to put away the gun
and go to a less lethal tool because the
situation has changed and that's what we
see with all these officers coming out
you're starting to see batons
and all that stuff well i do want my
office reviewers to watch out because
you see here
they've kind of arranged themselves in a
semicircle and they do a pretty darn
good job of not getting in each other's
way
but you can very quickly cross into each
other's backstops and get crossfire
problems here so be very
mindful of that and again let somebody
be the lethal cover that's great but
then get those less lethals out you see
the officer
uh two from the far right got his baton
out and they're going to try that here
okay fine they're gonna get out the
batons and they're going to try to do
what they can officer who is on the far
right is going to come in
with his baton and try to make a baton
strike here to get this guy on the
ground
and i want you to notice why they do
that because what he's trying to do is
he's trying to hit him just above the
knee
and kind of you know towards the behind
part of his
you know thigh and the reason for that
kind of where his hamstring is because
the peroneal nerve cluster is there and
if he can hit that peroneal nerve
cluster
what that will do is that will make the
bottom part of his leg go numb
and then he won't be able to stand on
that bottom part of his legs so then
he'll fall over and they can get him
into custody but it's not always that
simple the bad guy always gets a vote
and it's not always easy to get him
there and also recognize when an officer
comes in there you better watch your
backstop a low ready incredibly
important
so he makes a strike here and he does
his best to try to get after that but it
is
ineffective so when we try these less
lethal things i think that it's
it's a really good thing and i think
these officers did a good job of it
notice that as well though that officer
had to lunge in in order to do that
which means his partners who are
providing lethal cover
really need to use a low ready position
so they're not pointing a gun at their
partner
and god forbid they had you know an
unintended or negligent discharge they
didn't in this instance and that's fine
and that's great
so now that these guys are going to back
off and you see them nope that's not
effective so what are we going to do
the baton often is so these guys are all
going to now put their batons away okay
we're about to go hands-on with this guy
and it's going to be a polyester pileup
and then what we're going to finally see
is they're trying to figure out and
obviously this guy's not running away he
wants a problem
so instead they try to use the taser and
i think that that's a great thing and a
taser can be a very effective tool
particularly against a not lethal threat
this guy's not a lethal threat at this
point he certainly was a minute ago
but he has no tools on him he has no
means to do deadly harm here he has
means to do ordinary harm but not deadly
so that's why the officers are not
shooting the guy and i think that's
incredibly exemplary and when the
we get good prong spread and good
contact with the taser it's a hundred
percent effective
and that exactly what goes down here
you're gonna see the guy take the taser
goes down
and then it locks him right up and now
they are going to pile up on him okay
fine
but let's recognize that hey you know
somebody's got to communicate and make
sure that everybody's doing what they
need to do to get this guy in custody
because they got to do
some first aid on him pretty quick now
then that said when the threat changes
put your gun away you see the guy on the
right and the jacket is just now putting
his gun away
but notice that our officer here on the
left still has a gun
out and in his hand i'm not positive if
that's a firearm or a taser
but at any rate there are no additional
threats and when you get to that place
of no additional threats don't just
wander around with a tool in your hand
put that tool away so that you don't
have any kind of unintended discharge
with it
all things considered i think the
marksmanship here is a little bit
suspect but i think the officers did a
pretty darn fine job old things
considered
they shot when they were supposed to
shoot they didn't shoot when they
weren't supposed to shoot thankfully
this guy's gonna get the kind of help
that he needs and he's gonna spend some
time in prison
which he really should i think these
officers overall covered their asp