FOLKS, YOU KNOW MY FIRST GUEST FROM MOVIES LIKE, "J. EDGAR,"
"THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E." AND FROM HIS ROLE AS THE WINKLEVOSS
TWINS IN "THE SOCIAL NETWORK."
HIS NEW MOVIE IS "BIRTH OF A NATION."
PLEASE WELCOME ARMIE HAMMER!
♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE )
>> QUITE THE CURVEBALL.
>> Stephen: I'VE BEEN WORKING ON MY BOWLING.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> A PLEASURE.
>> Stephen: I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH SOMETHING I'M SURE
YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE BUT I CAN'T GET OVER-- WHAT A GREAT NAME
ARMIE HAMMER IS.
>> I DISAGREE.
>> Stephen: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE NAME?
IT'S LIKE BEING NAMED G.I. JOE.
ARMIE, ARMIE, HAMMER.
>> CONCEPTUAL YOU I GET IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE IN A LOUD ROOM AND SOMEBODY SAYS, "WHAT'S YOUR
NAME?" "ARMIE HAMMER."
WHAT "HARVEY MAMMER."
>> Stephen: HARVEY HAMMER SOUNDS LIKE A PORN NAME.
>> LIKE ARMIE HAMMER DOESN'T?
IT'S A LOSE-LOSE.
>> Stephen: IT KIND OF IS LIKE A PORN NAME.
>> IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE FIVE.
ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S SHORT FOR ARMOND, WHICH IS A BIG NAME FOR
A KID.
>> Stephen: ARMOND HAMMER.
>> IT'S THE WORST, LITERALLY THE WORST.
>> Stephen: BUT YOU WERE NAMED FOR YOUR GREAT-GRANDFATHER WHO
WAS THE BILLIONAIRE OWNER OF OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE BAD CORPORATION IN A
"BATMAN" MOVIE BY THE WAY.
>> BY THE THE WAY, IT'S AN OIL CORPORATION.
THIS IS A BAD CORPORATION.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES.
SORRY.
>> Stephen: IS IT TRUE-- TELL ME IF THIS IS TRUE-- THAT PEOPLE
WOULD ASK YOUR GREAT-GRANDFATHER IF HE WAS THE SAME--
>> AGZ THE BAKING SODA.
>> Stephen: ARM&HAMMER.
>> BUT HE WAS NOT.
HE ENJOYED SO MUCH THERE WAS THIS BAKING SODA COMPANY THAT
HAD THE SAME NAME HE WAS LIKE, "I WOULD LIKE TO BUY YOUR BAKING
SODA COMPANY."
THEY SAID, "WE APPRECIATE IT.
WE THINK IT'S FUNNY, TOO, THAT IT'S YOUR NAME, BUT IT IS NOT
FOR SALE."
AND HE SAID OKAY.
A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER THEY BECAME A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY
AND HE BOUGHT A MAJORITY OF THE STOCK.
>> Stephen: WHEN PEOPLE SAID ARE YOU ARMOND HAMMER OF ARM
&HAMMER, HE SAID, "YES I AM."
I UNDERSTAND YOU SPENT PART OF YOUR CHILDHOOD GROWING UP IN THE
QAMEN ISLANDS.
>> I DID.
>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU LEARN THERE THAT YOU COULDN'T LIBRARY
ANYWHEREES.
>> I CAN CLIMB A COCONUT TREE.
>> Stephen: THAT COMES IN HANDY.
THAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE FIRST DATE.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY MY LITMUS TEST ON DATES.
IF SHE CAN'T CLIMB A COCONUT TREE-- MY WITH OF CAN SCALE A
COCONUT TREE.
YOU SHOULD SEE HER.
>> Stephen: CAN SHE DO THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Stephen: HERE'S AN ODD THING.
I HOPE-- I'LL MAKE A BIG CHOICE RIGHT NOW, AND I HOPE I HAVEN'T
BEEN LIED TO.
>> OH, BOY.
>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SOMETHING OF A KNOT
ENTHUSE AFT.
>> YEAH.
YEAH, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHY?
( LAUGHTER ) PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE A SAILOR.
>> YEAH.
THEY MAKE SENSE-- ( LAUGHTER )
THEY'RE-- THEY'RE LOGICAL, LIKE KNOTS JUST MAKE SENSE.
THERE'S, IN A WEIRD KIND OF NERDY WAY, THERE'S A LANGUAGE TO
THEM.
IT'S MAN'S OLDEST TOOL.
LIKE, WE WERE USING ROPES BEFORE WE INVENTED THE WHEEL.
IT'S A PRETTY HANDY THING.
>> Stephen: IT'S NOT THE OLDEST TOOL, BUT IT'S THE OLDEST
YOU CAN SHOW IN PUBLIC.
>> FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH.
YEAH.
>> Stephen: SO, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LENGTHS OF SOME BASIC
ROPE HERE.
HERE'S-- HERE'S A BIT OF ROPE.
>> IT'S ALSO-- IT'S ALSO A WICKED GOOD PARTY TRICK.
PEOPLE GET THRILLED WHEN YOU PULL OUT ROPE AT A PARTY.
>> Stephen: I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT KIND OF PARTY.
>> THEY FIGURE JUST THE COOLEST BUT IT'S ALSO A GOOD WAY TO WIN
A BET.
>> Stephen: DO YOU TRAVEL WITH ROPE?
>> OH, YEAH, DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY-- NO, I DON'T TRAVEL WITH
ROPE.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN WIN A BET.
I SAY, "I BET I CAN TIE A BOW IN THIS ROPE FASTER THAN YOU CAN
TIE A BOW IN YOUR ROPE.
I BET YOU A BEER.
>> Stephen: A BOW, ALL RIGHT.
>> YOU SAY GO -- >> YOU TRAINED, OF COURSE,
OBVIOUSLY.
>> I PRACTICED FOR FOUR HOURS.
YOU SAY GO, AND THEN WE'LL BOTH TIE A BOW.
>> Stephen: A BOW.
>> WITH THE TWO LOOPS AND THE THING.
>> Stephen: OKAY, I KNOW WHAT A BOW IS.
>> OKAY.
>> READY.
>> Stephen: ONE, TWO, THREE, GO.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> AND THEY'RE THE COOLEST?
YEAH!
>> Stephen: AND THEN SOMEONE BUYS YOU A BEER?
>> NO, IT'S NEVER ACTUALLY GOTTEN ME A BEER GR DO YOU
MOUNTAIN CLIMB?
DO YOU DO DANGEROUS THINGS?
>> YEAH, I LIKE TO, YEAH.
>> Stephen: ARE YOU KNOWN FOR DOING DANGEROUS STUFF.
IS YOUR WIFE COOL WITH THAT?
>> NO, MY WIFE FOR THE LONGEST TIME IS CONVINCED I HAD WHAT YOU
CALL A FRONTAL LOBE ISSUE.
SHE SAYS THAT'S WHERE YOU ASSESS RISK AND DANGER AND ALL THAT,
AND SHE SAYS MINE IS SEVERELY UNDERDEVELOPED BECAUSE I --
>> WHAT WOULD DO YOU?
>> WHATEVER.
I MEAN, SO, WELL, YESTERDAY, I-- THIS IS JUST-- I DECIDED TO GO
GET A BUNCH OF DIRTY WATER DOGS, JUST WALKING AROUND ON THE
STREETS.
AND I WAS LIKE I WILL TACK A SPICY SAUSAGE FROM THIS CART,
PLEASE.
AND THE GUY HE GOES, "SPICY SAUSAGE?"
I GO, "YEAH."
AND HE GOES, "HERE."
HE WAS HOLDING ONE IN HIS HAND.
>> Stephen: HE ALREADY MADE IT ON THE STREET.
>> IT WAS SITTING THERE, IN A BUN, READY.
AND I GO, "NO, NO, DO YOU HAVE ONE YOU CAN PUT ON A GRILL, A
FRESH ONE?" "SORRY, MAN, MY GRILL'S OFF."
AND I WAS LIKE, "YEAH, OKAY, I'LL TAKE THAT."
AND I WAS HOLDING THAT IN MY HAND AND I WAS LIKE REALLY THIS
IS GOING TO HURT.
THIS IS NOT A SMART MOVE.
AND ATE THE ENTIRE THING AND SURE ENOUGH WAS UP ALL NIGHT
LAST NIGHT VIOLENTLY ILL.
THIS IS WHERE THE FRONTAL LOBE ISSUE COMES IN, I WILL NOT LET A
HOT DOG GET ME DOWN.
I WILL NOT BE BEAT BY A HOT DOG.
I WILL GET ANOTHER SPICY SAUSAGE TODAY.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE GETTING BACK ON THE HORSE?
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK.
STAY HYDRATED.
BRING SOME ROPE WITH YOU.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: WELL, NOW, YOU'RE ALSO ONE OF THE STARS OF THE
HIGHLY ACCLAIMED MOVIE "BIRTH OF A NATION."
AND I'M GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY IT-- I'M AGAINST SLAVERY.
I THINK IT WAS BAD.
YOU PLAY KIND OF A BAD GUY IN THIS MOVIE.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: DID YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE STORY OF NAT TURNER
AND HIS LABOR REBELLION BEFORE YOU SAW THIS MOVIE, BEFORE YOU
WERE IN THE MOVIE.
>> I READ THE SCRIPT AND THOUGHT THIS IS THE MOST INCREDIBLE
STORY I HAVE EVER HEARD.
I ALSO THOUGHT IT'S THE MOST AMERICAN STORY I HAVE HEARD.
THE RISE AGAINST TYRANNY, THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED
ON.
IT'S A GREAT STORY BUT IT CAN'T BE TRUE.
AND I LOOKED IT UP ONLINE AND THOUGHT HOLY HELL, THIS IS TRUE.
AND I NEVER HEARD THIS.
I TOOK U.S. HISTORY IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I NEVER HEARD THE STORY OF NAT TURNER.
I NEVER HEARD HIS NAME MENTIONED AND IT SEEMED CRIMINAL TO ME.
AND THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOVIE OF IT AND THE SCRIPT WAS
AMAZING AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT AND POWERFUL THING TO
DO AND I OF LUCKY TO BE A PART OF IS.
>> Stephen: AND YOU PLAY A PLANTATION OWNER.
>> I POLICEMAN SAM TURNER, AND THIS IS ACCURATE, KIDS WERE PLAY
TOGETHER, WHETHER THE SLAVE OWNER'S CHILDREN OR THE
CHILDREN.
THIS WAS CORROBORATED BY SCIENCE.
IT WAS DECIDED, OKAY, SLAVES, YOU'RE DONE MATURING AND ALL OF
THAT, SO ARE YOU GOING TO STAY LIKE THIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET BIGGER, BUT THIS IS IT, YOU'RE DONE.
WHITE KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOUAB EDUCATION NOW.
THIS IS WHAT DOCTORS WERE TELLING PEOPLE.
THE WHITE KID'S BRAINS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP SO
SEPARATE THEM THEM NOW AND GET THEM IN SCHOOL.
AND YOU HAD KIDS WHO PLAYED TOGETHER WHO DIDN'T KNOW THERE
WAS A DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S WHAT KIDS DO.
AND THEY WERE TAUGHT THIS BY AN INCREDIBLE SYSTEM LIKE A
SOCIOECONOMIC SYSTEM OF SLAVERY.
>> Stephen: AND THE CLIP WE HAVE HERE IS YOU AS SAMUEL
TURNER TAKE TALKING TO NAT TURNER.
>> IN A WAY, THAT'S CRAZY, PEOPLE TALKED TO EACH OTHER.
>> I DIDN'T MEAN?
>> WE'VE BEEN GOOD TO YOU.
MY WHOLE FAMILY HAS, AND YOU GO ON AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO
ME.
BAPTIZING A WHITE MAN ON MY PROPERTY.
DO YOU KNOW HOW THIS MAKES US LOOK?
THIS COULD RUIN EVERYTHING WE WORKED FOR.
BOY, YOU'D BETTER SAY SOMETHING, AND QUICK!
>> TAKE HEED, THEREFORE, UNTO YOURSELVES AND THE FLOCK TO
WHICH THE HOLY GHOST MADE YOU OVERSEE US, TO FEED THE CHURCH
OF GOD WHICH HE HAS PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.
( APPLAUSE ) >> THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, MAN.
"THE BIRTH OF A NATION" OPENS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY THIS
FRIDAY.
ARMIE HAMMER, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH LINDSEY VONN.