NEIL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THAT, HILLARY VAUGHN AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WANT TO GOT THE READ ON ALL OF
THIS FROM SCOTT BOLDEN BACK WITH
US, FORMER WASHINGTON D.C.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIRMAN.
SCOTT, VERY GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME,
NEIL.
NEIL: YOU KNOW WITH THE
PRESIDENT’S YOU KNOW, GETTING
SORT OF SHOVED TO THE SIDE RIGHT
NOW WITH BUILD BACK BETTER WHEN
JOE MANCHIN SAID HE COULDN’T
VOTE FOR IT HE IS SORT OF
REGROUPING OR HINTING THAT HE
WILL NEXT YEAR AROUND MAYBE
PRIORITIZING WORKING WITH
MANCHIN ON THE THINGS THAT
SHOULD STICK AND THINGS THAT
SHOULD GO, ASSUMING THAT HAPPENS
AND HE STARTS ESSENTIALLY FROM
SCRATCH, SCOTT, WHAT DO YOU
THINK ULTIMATELY GOES?
>> WELL, THAT IS COMPLICATED
BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS REALLY
WHAT’S PUSHING JOE MANCHIN.
REMEMBER THE COAL MINERS
ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE
BBB LEGISLATION AND, THEY ARE IN
SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE IT GIVES
THE ORGANIZATION AND ITS MEMBERS
TIME TO GET INTO SOME OF THESE
NEW GREEN JOBS IF YOU WILL.
I THINK THE CONVERSATION HAS TO
CONTINUE OR YOU HAVE GOT TO FIND
A COUPLE OF REPUBLICANS YOU WILL
NEVER FIND IN ORDER TO GET BBB
BACK, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD
STUFF IN THE BBB PLAN.
FOLKS LIVE IN WEST VIRGINIA,
THERE IS LOT OF GOOD STUFF THERE
FOR THEM INCLUDING THE CHILD TAX
CREDIT.
JOE MANCHIN HAS TO EXPLAIN THAT
NOTWITHSTANDING HIS CONCERNS
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND MINERS,
AND COAL.
COAL IS GOING AWAY.
FOSSIL IS GOING AWAY.
THAT IS REALITY CHECK FOR HIM.
WE’LL SEE WHAT THE NEXT MOVE IS.
MORE IMPORTANTLY WE’LL SEE IF
BIDEN HAS UP IT HIS SLEEVE TO
BRING MANCHIN BACK IN THE FOLD.
CRITICIZING HAS TO BE SHORT
TERM.
LONG TERM THEY NEED HIM.
NEIL: THERE WAS THE KNEE-JERK
REACTION CERTAINLY FROM
PROGRESSIVES, WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALLY WAS TO PILE ON
MANCHIN.
>> YEAH.
NEIL: NOW OF COURSE THE
STRATEGY, THAT IS A LITTLE
RISKY, WE CAN’T REACT THAT WAY.
BUT THIS THING JUST LOOKS DICEY
TO ME NEXT YEAR.
YOU’RE CLOSER TO THIS AND THE
PLAYERS THAN I AM.
HOW DO YOU THINK IT WILL GO NEXT
YEAR?
DO YOU THINK THIS WILL EVER SEE
THE LIGHT OF EVEN A VOTE?
>> IT COULD BUT I GOT TO TELL
YOU, THE DEMOCRATS, NEED TO BE
FOCUSING ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM AND VOTING RIGHTS ACTING
PASSED.
THE LATTER MORE SO EVEN SO IF I
MAY SAY, THE FORMER BECAUSE THAT
IS WHAT WILL GET THEM WITH
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS COME OUT TO
VOTE.
RIGHT NOW DEMOCRATS ARE MAD AT
DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS ARE MAD AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THE ONLY WAY YOU’RE GOING TO
HOLD ON TO THAT HOUSE AND SENATE
AND PERHAPS IN 2024 THE
WHITE HOUSE IS TO GIVE YOUR
CONSTITUENTS SOMETHING THAT THEY
PUT YOU IN THE OFFICE TO DO AND
SOMETHING THAT’S HELPFUL TO ALL
AMERICANS.
DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS IS
VOTING RIGHTS.
AND SO LESS TIME AND LESS EFFORT
HAS BEEN PUT ON THAT.
I GOT TO TELL YOU THE BIGGEST
VOTING BLOC IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY, VOTERS OF COLOR ARE NOT
PLEASED F THEY’RE NOT MOTIVATED
TO COME OUT IN GEORGIA AND
ELSEWHERE, I GOT TO TELL YOU THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE A BROADER PROBLEM
OF KEEPING CONTROL OF ALL THREE
HOUSES.
NEIL: YEAH, TO YOUR CREDIT YOU
HAVE ALWAYS REMINDED ME OVER THE
YEARS HERE, IT IS ONE THING TO
ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW, OR FEAR
THAT A KEY VOTING CONSTITUENCY
DUMPS TO THE OTHER SIDE.
FAR MORE DANGEROUS IF THEY JUST
DON’T COME OUT TO VOTE.
SO YOU HAVE TO RE-ENERGIZE.
>> EXACTLY.
NEIL: HAVING SAID THAT, SCOTT,
THE PRESIDENT IN HIS ABC
INTERVIEW TALKED ABOUT
DEFINITELY PLANNING TO RUN
BARRING ANY CHANGES IN HIS
HEALTH IN 2024.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
>> WELL, HE HAS GOT TO SAY THAT
RIGHT NOW.
I DON’T KNOW WHETHER NOW IT’S A
QUESTION OF CREDIBILITY.
HE BECOME AS LAME DUCK IF HE
DOESN’T RUN IN 2024.
THAT OPENS UP THE FLOODGATES
WHETHER THE VICE PRESIDENT OR
MAYOR PETE.
HE HAS GOT TO SAY THAT.
HE WILL CONTINUE -- SO RIGHT NOW
I THINK WE’VE GOT TO ACCEPT, WE
HAVE TO ACCEPT HIM FOR HIS WORD.
NEIL: YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE, BUT
AGAIN THAT IS HIS PLAN TO RUN.
SCOTT BOLDEN, WE --
>> HOW OLD WILL HE BE?
HOW OLD WILL HE BE IN 2024?
I DON’T RECALL BUT.
NEIL: HE IS 79 NOW.
HE WOULD BE 81 OR 82, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW.
>> GOD BLESS HIM.
NEIL: SCOTT, THE OLDER I GET THE
LESS I LOOK YOU KNOW, ASKANCE AT
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE A TAD OLDER.
SO I MUCH MORE LIGHTER
FLEXIBILITY ON THAT YOU KNOW.
>> RIGHT.
I HAVE GOT MORE CONSERVATIVE?
I GOT MORE CONSERVATIVE AS I
GOTTEN OLDER ACCORDING TO MY
DAUGHTERS.
NEIL: WOW, THAT COULD BE A FOX
ALERT THERE.