(Gerald claps)
- Sync! What are we doing, just face detect autofocus,
I don't have to worry about it?
I'm good? - [Eber] Nope.
Don't worry about it, man.
- I was underneath the shotgun though.
I'm sure this is off-axis audio.
So you probably sit back here then a little bit?
Okay. The reason why I'm trying to figure this all out
is because this is not my regular shot, obviously.
I am in the studio of one of the Hardware Canucks, Eber.
(people cheering) You wanna sneak
into the shot, here?
This is gonna be perfect.
It's hard for him to get over here. Yay!
- What's up, guys?
- Remember this guy? - Yeah.
- Is it gonna focus on both of us?
Are we in the same plane? - We're in the same plane.
- What aperture we shooting at right now?
- 1.8.
- Better be careful then.
And of course, we've got Patrick Tomasso.
He's not rocking the gimbal this time though.
We're actually using the, what do we got?
The Panasonic S5 IIX all black edition.
So we're giving this the new phase detect autofocus test
to see how it holds up in the studio tour.
If it doesn't hold up, you can either blame Panasonic
or you can blame Patrick.
I don't know. Let me know in the comments.
But that's not why we're here, Eber.
We're here to see your studio.
- Yeah.
- So you set up this A-roll shot.
I want you to walk me through that.
And let's talk a little bit about this space.
- Yes, let's dive into it.
- Is that what you normally say in your videos?
- Yeah. - You say let's dive into it?
- Let's dive into it.
Let's get right into it. (Eber laughs)
Let's dive in. - I brought something for you.
Well, not for you.
This is mine. - Oh.
- But this is my new Dell XPS 15.
(bell dings)
And I'm supposed to shoot some B-roll of this.
- Okay.
- But I actually was interested in the XPS 15
because I watched your 2022 XPS 15 video.
- Oh, thank you.
- So I'm gonna get you to shoot the B-roll of it.
- Oh okay. - And,
that will give us a chance to see how you do things.
- Let's do it.
- Thanks again to Dell
for sponsoring this studio touring series.
A note, this space is smaller than I expected.
And so I think the impressive part
is that you manage to do everything you can do
in such a small space because I think it's important.
A lot of studios that I've toured have been,
some of them anyway, have been kind of grandiose, right?
And you don't always need a massive space
in order to make tech content, camera content,
whatever, you know?
I think that's important
'cause the quality of your work is outstanding.
- [Eber] Thank you.
- [Gerald] And you do it in 200 square feet.
- [Eber] Yeah.
- Metric is probably like four by five meters.
Patrick's at the door right now.
So I don't know.
What are we shooting on, 20 mil?
- [Patrick] We are right at 20.
- Okay, so this is the camera.
- [Eber] Yes, it is.
- [Gerald] Get in here, Eber.
- It is a Canon EOS R.
It's my baby.
It's what I use to shoot all my videos.
- You using a, you're adapting a sigma lens here?
- Yep. - This is I guess an EF lens?
- Yep, 18-35.
It's been rock solid for me.
I mean, I can't really complain,
expect for the crop factor.
I hate that.
But I work- - Oh yeah.
Well, are you shooting 1080p?
- No, 4K.
- So you're at like a- - 1.7.
- Micro four thirds over here basically at this point.
- Basically that's what it is, yeah.
- So why are you, I'm not trying to knock it,
why are you still shooting on the R?
- I don't know, man.
That's a great question,
I mean, cameras, I always stick to the Sigma 18-35.
- [Gerald] Well, I guess you can shoot APS-C lens
because the- - [Eber] I can, yeah.
- Because the crop factor. - [Eber] The crop factor.
- [Gerald] So you not feeling the need to upgrade?
Or are there other pain points
that make you wanna change your camera?
- I wanna get the R6 Mark II.
I'm just waiting for a good sale to come.
- Why the R6 Mark II?
- Obviously flip-out screen.
It shoots full frame 4K, I want to try that.
- It's like, I want to try this full frame 4K
that everybody's talking about.
- I know.
I mean, you know?
I just wanna see what it's like.
One day, one day.
- Hardware Canucks has got like, what?
1.2 million subscribers?
One day we'll shoot full frame 4K over here.
- One day we will shoot full frame 4K.
- See you're actually doing sort of a,
I notice when I was in your shot
that it's a bit of a distance there,
and you're just sort of like monitoring yourself
on a tiny little TFT or whatever.
- The thing is this is my A-Roll and B-Roll camera.
So the thing is, I like shooting stuff without a lot of,
I don't like rig setups
cause' it's like it's just difficult to manipulate.
So for me, this is just quick and easy.
I can just grab the tripod off the,
or the camera off the tripod
and just like quickly shoot B-Roll.
And it's just more adaptable.
- But aren't you worried that if you're this far away,
you're gonna have like,
a booger coming out of your nose or something?
- That's why I use the iPhone before I shoot my A-Roll.
I just like, you know? - [Gerald] Little mirror?
- That's the only time I take a selfie.
I'm like okay, let's just make sure that my hair's okay.
You know, if I got anything going on, so.
- [Gerald] We need to get you a little,
you'd have to rig out your camera.
We can just run a little HDMI cable,
and get you a little monitor, you could just like-
- Sit right here?
Yeah.
That's the thing, right?
This is also my A-Roll table,
but also my B-Roll table, so.
- Everything seems to need to be able to move around.
- Exactly.
- Audio?
- Sennheiser MKE 600.
It's been rock solid.
I mean, I've had this for almost seven years,
and it's going straight just running an XLR cable
to the Zoom H5.
- How do you find, well.
(Gerald claps)
Small space means you don't have to worry
about cavernous wet audio.
- I thought that this was gonna do something.
So I wanted to black out this portion,
so I ended up buying some-
- This is the jankiest part of your setup.
(Eber and Gerald laugh)
This is what someone would do if they were like a criminal
and they were just like peering through.
(creepy music)
- What are you doing?
- So what do you got here? - Godox VL150.
- I like the VL150. - It's a great light.
- Bang for your buck, it's a pretty good light.
- Absolutely. - Is this the Mark I?
- I think so.
- Apparently they made a Mark II.
I never got a chance to use it.
I don't know if it's better or what?
- [Eber] It's been rock solid for me. I mean, I love.
The only thing I don't like about it is,
compared to my Apurture light,
it has a little bit of a purplish tint to the output.
I'm not sure that's,
I don't know if that means anything.
- [Gerald] Purple?
- I know.
I know you like purple. - [Patrick] Great Gerald tint.
- It's got the Gerald tint, yeah.
- You mean you come off a little bit more magenta?
- [Eber] Exactly.
That's what I meant. - Yeah.
'Cause light's normally measured in warm and cool
and green and magenta.
Eber's lights go purple on him.
(Gerald and Eber laugh)
And then your using, what do we got here? Light Dome.
- [Eber] Apurture Light Dome.
That actually came- - [Gerald] That's Mark I?
- [Eber] Yeah, so my first-
- Have you ever heard of upgrading any of your gear, Eber?
- Yeah, I don't usually upgrade my-
- [Gerald] This one you gotta like,
undue all the rods manually. - I know, I do.
Yeah, actually I didn't know there was a Mark II
or Mark III. I don't know what is up right now, but.
- Do you not watch the channel, Eber?
- [Eber] I do. - I thought we had
a mutual thing going on here. - Of course we do, yeah.
- All right, what do we got? We got the 120d.
- Mark I. - The Mark I, of course.
So does this one get you in the shot or is it just to?
- [Eber] It's just to like highlight the desk.
- [Gerald] Okay.
- And I think it also creates
a little bit of a shadow on the monitor.
I don't know if you can spot that.
I like the way how that looks.
- [Gerald] Yeah, and you got that harsh.
- Exactly.
PavoTube creates a little fill light for me.
- Let's give a check on that.
You can flick it off.
Patrick, you got me?
- [Patrick] I got you. - Okay.
You wanna kill that light, Eber?
Let's see what we're doing here.
Tube light, eh?
Okay, and back on.
What do you think?
- [Patrick] Nice little catch light, I like it.
All right, all right.
- So another thing I use the PavoTube is actually,
so I don't know if you noticed,
there's a little hidden storage compartment here.
You can't obviously see anything here,
but literally I just-
- [Gerald] Oh, we lied about the square footage?
- I did.
- We gotta a couple extra square feet.
(Eber and Gerald laugh)
What's your thought process
when it comes to figuring out how to light things?
Do you shoot a shot and like review it?
Or like, where are you figuring out how to put in,
fill all the gaps and stuff? - It's constantly evolving.
Sometimes if I don't like the light there,
I'll just remove it and put it somewhere else and what not.
- But what's the mental part of that? Like how do you,
do you draw inspiration from a certain thing?
Is it you honestly just go off your gut feeling
when you look at it or something?
- [Eber] Mostly gut feeling.
- [Gerald] Yeah? - Yeah.
- Well, there you go, kids at home.
You can't do it because you need to have that instinct.
- There's nothing I can even impart to you.
That's the sad thing.
- So let's move this here.
So.
- We're all going to do some squatting, guys.
Squat team over here.
- I just put a little background down there,
so it just adds a little bit of a-
- Do you hear that?
Are you picking that up in the?
- [Eber] Yeah.
- You got yourself an airplane problem, Eber.
- I know.
- [Gerald] I'm not going to blow up your spot,
but we're close to the airport.
- Yeah, we're close to the airport.
- What's that like?
- It's hard, man.
Cause' if I'm shooting A-Roll and if I flight goes by,
I have to literally pause for five to ten seconds,
and then continue on with my A-Roll.
So, it's tough.
You know, you gotta,
and sometimes you gotta predict too.
Like you can hear, like as I'm doing my A-Roll,
which is mostly, like I actually have a teleprompter,
which is right here is what I use.
- Are you trying to line up the sound
with where the good take will end?
- [Eber] Exactly.
But luckily, with the teleprompter it helps
because then I can go back to my previous,
whatever I started and then just redo the whole thing again.
- [Gerald] Absolutely.
- But yeah.
Sometimes if you feel like you got the expression right,
sometimes I go off a teleprompter,
and I just like express myself on camera.
- You're like, "That was good."
Then the airplane. (laughs)
Never gonna be able to recreate that moment.
- It's hard, it's hard.
So, Sony and, what are these batteries?
- [Gerald] Let's see who makes these though.
Are they Sony? - [Eber] No, they're not.
- They are Powerextra.
Got some cologne, there?
- Yep, cologne.
I don't know why it's there.
I think. (laughs)
I don't know why that's there.
- For a brand deal he did one time.
- What is this?
It's Beckham.
I don't know if that's even (indistinct).
- What's in the Pelican case?
- This is a,
actually this is a pretty cool gadget.
- I'm telling you right now,
it's not gonna be a cool gadget.
- [Eber] It is a cool- - Nobody starts with
that sentence and it's actually a cool gadget.
- [Patrick] Is it a thermal?
- [Eber] Yep, it's a thermal camera.
- Okay, so literally-
- It's a cool gadget.
I was wrong.
- Literally, so when I'm doing surface temperatures test
on laptops or just anything in general,
this is what I use to basically shoot them.
So I literally just, I can go point at Patrick
and read out his temperature.
- [Gerald] Let me see. - Gerald.
- [Gerald] People at home wanna see the back of it.
- It is calibrated.
- [Gerald] Woo, he's a hot guy.
Makes it look like you're wearing shadies.
'Cause your glasses.
You know who you look like?
You look like a SuperSaf.
- Comparing both of these side by side SuperSaf style.
- Is this a TI-83 graphing calculator?
- [Eber] It is a graphing calculator.
- It's a later version, it's a TI-84.
- [Eber] Yep.
- Ooh.
Texas Instruments' finest.
- It is.
I just, again, use these as props to sort of dress up
the top down shots.
I have another cologne bottle as well.
Just in case.
Extra key caps and all that stuff.
- I've lost interest, Eber.
- Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
- After the graphing calculator,
it kinda went down hill, I think.
- I love cars, so I'm trying to collect.
I wanna collect a few Porsches as well.
Like 911's and put them all-
- [Gerald] In real life?
- No, no, no.
I mean, I wish.
- Guy can't afford an R6 Mark II,
but he wants to get a couple Porsches, am I right?
(Eber laughs)
- No, I just wanna get some die casts and put them up.
- Do you consider yourself a car aficionado?
- I mean.
- We'll show his Instagram right now
while he's thinking about it.
- [Eber] I guess so.
Ya know, I love cars.
- [Gerald] What's the dream car for you, Eber?
- It's definitely a 911 GT3.
- [Gerald] Current, old, or a certain year?
- I mean, the O16, 2016, 2022.
Anything with the GT on it.
Give me a 6-speed manual, and I'm good.
- I don't know much of what he's saying,
but audience, did he choose well?
Okay, I wanna see how you work, Eber.
- [Eber] Okay.
All right. - So this is my new XPS by the way.
Are we getting a first impressions from Eber right here?
- This, it's a beautiful laptop.
As I bring the table to the center,
I'm gonna move this light.
I just set this to an overhead position,
and I just light up the laptop.
- [Gerald] Where's your sandbags, Eber?
- I don't have sandbags.
- I like these.
These are the Amazon ones.
The Neewer whatever.
The rolling stands, these are great.
These are what I use for my rolling sound blankets.
- I love, honestly ever since I switched to these,
it's been a huge relief on my back too.
So I don't have to like.
If you have gear, put them on wheels.
It's gonna save a lot of time and stress.
- You looked at the camera like that was the sound bite.
Final words from Eber, put em' on wheels.
All right, guys, get the hell out of here. (Eber laughs)
- I don't know if you met my plant, Henry.
Say hello to Henry, by the way.
I like to showcase him.
And then that's your establishing shot right there.
And then I'll change the lighting
to blue or something like that.
Play around with the colors.
Maybe put an animated wallpaper on the screen.
- Do you think, Eber, that I should leave it,
do you leave it running for your shots?
- Most of the time, yes I do.
Yeah, I leave it running.
But if you want to save on battery then.
- Well, let me tell you something about the battery, Eber.
What a great setup that was.
One thing I've been enjoying about the XPS 15,
this is the sponsor section of the video, by the way,
if you didn't catch on to that.
Yeah, the battery life has actually been great.
That's a great little segue.
The display is excellent.
It's a 16x10 display, and it's touch screen,
which as a resolve user, Eber,
it seems weird to use a touch screen while video editing,
but it's actually been really beneficial.
And you can even do color correction in curves
and stuff like that with a touch screen,
which is actually pretty wild when you have a big curve.
You make a little S curve with your finger.
We got 100% coverage of sRGB, 95% of Adobe RGB,
and 99.3 DCI P3 with out of the box Delta E average of 2.69.
I'll get into more of the nitty-gritty details
in the tests and stuff like that,
benchmarks and that kind of thing of the editing performance
in a future video,
but I did edit the last full project
and also the unboxing reel that I made on this,
that I made about this on this,
and it was a completely pleasant and great experience.
So, so far, it was a great recommendation, Eber,
to get the XPS 15.
- You're welcome.
- And thanks again to Dell for sponsoring this video.
- [Eber] Look at all the fingerprints
that you have accumulated.
- [Gerald] Whatcha spraying there, Eber?
- [Gerald] It's just a little cleaning solution, man.
It's a glass cleaner.
It gets the job done.
Seems that way at least.
(men laugh)
All the nasty finger oil.
- [Gerald] What'd you just call it?
Nasty finger oil?
- Yeah, you know?
You want me to showcase this?
- I can bottle it up and sell it on OnlyFans
or something, right?
- [Patrick] OilyFans.
- [Gerald] OilyFans.
(men laughs)
- These are all my colored sheets.
As you can see, I have a bunch of a,
these are like Dollar Store, Dollarama.
- [Gerald] You ever gonna get the Mark II with those?
- I don't think they have any Mark IIs.
It's just, yeah.
If they rip, they get replaced.
- [Gerald] Even if they do bring a Mark II,
Eber will refuse to upgrade.
- I will refuse to upgrade, yeah.
So I set the color,
and I just look around for props
to dress up the shot, all right?
So- - [Gerald] Some cologne.
- Some cologne would work, yeah.
Recently, I've been trying to do like,
luckily I have some blue accents.
So I have blue key caps and what not.
So I just bring that over here and a little bit of that.
And then this was, I picked this up from LA.
Just blue playing cards.
So, I just like kinda stack them right here.
So it's like somewhat-
- [Gerald] I like how you set them up in a nice fan
and you put them on the table and scattered. - I know, I know.
It's just-
- This is Eber putting his cards down.
He's like, "I got these in LA."
I really like them.
What I like to do with these is,
fan them out nice and slow,
and then I'll just put them on the table.
(men laugh)
- You just ruined the shot, man.
The way how I usually do it is I have them closed.
- [Gerald] Yep.
- Then I hit record and then I just open it,
and then I just do a really cool, I don't know.
Usually I just log in.
- [Gerald] Like the scene from "Ghost?"
♪ Oh, my love ♪
(men laugh)
- [Eber] So I just set that down right there.
- [Gerald] It's starting to look like,
just like how camera YouTube has a vibe,
there's a vibe to tech YouTube.
- And that's a wrap.
That's how we do it.
- All right.
Can I have the SD card, please?
- Oh, sure. But you have to give it back to me,
you know that right? - Yeah.
All right, well, I got what I need.
Thanks, Eber.
- Okay.
(beep)
Back to, so this originally belonged to that one over there.
- Are you seg?
I thought I was the host.
Are you segueing me?
Saying, "Okay, guys, back to the lighting and hand here."
When I first started my channel,
I took heavy inspiration from Hardware Canucks.
It was more computer stuff,
but the way you guys would shoot cases,
or keyboards, or mice and whatever.
There's a lot of like,
I probably just mentioned all of Dmitry's topics, didn't I?
- It's mostly Dmitry,
but I used to do keyboard reviews too, so.
- And also your laptop stuff and everything.
I took a lot of inspiration.
These guys, I liked the way
that you used certain colors and stuff.
I would say eventually my thumbnail style
that I do now probably evolved
from some sort of copying Hardware Canucks early on.
So.
That's one of the main reasons why
[Patrick] He should ask for royalties.
- [Gerald] That's right. - I should, yeah.
I should be doing that a lot.
- So yeah, this is actually a big moment for me to,
cause' I found out later on these guys are camera nerds,
and they were watching my channel years later.
But starting out
when I was a nothing little baby YouTuber or whatever,
I was watching Hardware Canucks.
- [Eber] That means a lot, man.
- It's a good channel. (beep)
- All the gear here is fairly old,
but it still is functional, so.
- Just like you.
(men laugh)
(beep)
We got another excellent content creator, Patrick.
He's working the ones and twos for no reason
other than he just likes hanging out.
This guy's making million view videos on "Avatar"
or something over here.
- [Patrick] It's not all bad.
I don't think it's all bad.
Maybe it is all bad.
- This guy makes his video essays like
"What really was Stanley Kubrick talking about?"
(beep)
Like a sine wave or whatever that...
(beep) I would look that up though and make sure
I'm just not giving bro facts or whatever.
No, man.
Magenta ain't real.
- [Eber] It ain't real.
- That's big radiation trying to lie to you.
(beep)
That's what I'm saying, what is it?
- Yeah it's just T or something.
- [Gerald] What are you doing?
(Eber laughs)
- It's just T and you just trim it or something.
I don't know, I mean.
- No, that's not what you do.
(beep)
That's a liability, sir.
(Eber laughs) (beep)
- Speaking of which, have you shot the B-Roll
for that laptop yet or what?
- No, I haven't. - What are we doing here?
(beep)
- [Patrick] Have you noticed it only ever takes one person
to say Porsche and everyone's like,
oh yeah, we're on that wave length.
(men laughs)
- There's gonna be somebody in the audience that's like,
"Oh, these snobs saying Porsche."
(beep) Did you ever see that video on the internet?
(beep)
- [Patrick] It's a cash grab.
It's a cash grab.
(men laugh) (beep)
- It's not that loggy, eh?
Like the Canon-
- [Eber] That's the most Canadian camera sentence
of all time.
- It's not that loggy, eh? - [Patrick] Loggy, eh?
(men laugh) (beep)
- People are like, "No, I like those skin tones. "
Just grab a hue slider and move 'em.
Who cares? (beep)
- [Patrick] Nice, both of you looking at me now.
Gerald looking at Eber.
Both of you looking at each other.
(men laugh)