about bank in the washington post has uh... written an article about a study that has
to do with abstinence only education and how it might be uh... at very effective form of
sex education
indirect
now that in the past there have been no studies that indicate this right so conservatives
are looking at the study insane yes we dot
accident on education is affected and we have a study that proves it
except this study doesn't prove
so
dan k
now let me tell you what that findings of the study what
okay it says that only about a third of six and seven th graders who completed abstinence
focused program started having sex with david the next two years
nearly half of the students who attended other classes including ones they combined information
about abstinence and contraception
became sexually active
and okay so basically those who took the abstinence focused courses out were less likely to engage
in sex in the next two years and those who do comprehensive sex education were more likely
to engage in sex in the next two years
now the reason why the study doesn't prove anything is because of that abstinence focused
educational curriculum wasn't really abstinence only and what i mean by that if he was a very
moderate form of sex education
first of all um...
what he did is it didn't give any
no wrong
stragglers that moral on standards when it came to having sex they simply
that accidents focused curriculum steady you know you don't have to wait till marriage
to have sex just wait for the time that's right for you
which is super moderate that's not abstinence only kamon and also uh... absent is only curriculum
i did not disparage condom use
etc so it was a personal let's get this quick
it wasn't actions only i don't know why they keep calling it that it was abstinence focus
brett did talk about condoms so
if you're going to states x discussion
and then tell kids
not that sex until they're ready
i think that's exactly right and that's pretty so i am i surprised at work i don't question
the numbers in i mean the numbers are right i think it's a legitimate star right
you could argue about some of the specifics it but overall i think you know that make
sense
but when you listen to what was in the program
it what there was no moralizing is and it said there was no he didn't say wait till
you're married he said wait till you're ready
and he gave kids a little bit of maturity about how to handle sex
which is what i would do is apparent right so if they came to me with an abscess only
program for my kids in my school
at it and then the lecture about how you can imagine journey saxon
condoms never work he's right so you're married i think that it's not so i would never agree
to that right but if they come in say hey you know condoms work and usually ancestry
or anything like that all right away right side right as a pad that's what i would want
that assets and basically this abstinence focused educational the waiter labeling exodus
comprehensive sex etc
right to a lesser extent but it is it's comprehensive sex at don't have sex until you're ready for
it and when you do decide to have sex makes you protect yourself with condoms that's comprehensive
sex education i have another work for which is
all this is a self-portrait educated sex education
so com of regulate forestville u
did you have probably numbers or or is that you have a different issue it
uh... a couple of uh...
accomplishes
one of which you touched on which i'll get to it and expand a little bit but the first
one was
i'd at an issue with the age of the kids that they used in the study
because they used sixth and seventh graves
on average that means that the kids are eleven of thirteen years old
the thing to keep in a town is they follow them or they got back with them
after two years so you're saying about kids that are
thirteen to fourteen or fifteen years old basically liking backed them saying okay have
you had sex use contraception that's right
now the thing is if you look at variety of sources you'll see that in the u_s_ average
age that someone was the rigidity is sixteen years
though that would be boards
uh... for i think for growth of seventy years old and that's today back in the day he was
to be ninety right but for younger people it's not sixteen and seventeen
so most kids having a lot of rickety boats on the study gets back
an analogy that
i would think of for the study to be like doing a study on how good or at retirement
plan works
and uh... following up with people when they turn sixty four
but when the vast majority people retire when they're sixty five
you know certain percentage of people yet before you know the price sixty five well
counterpoint tell if there was a very good point very important point and then we know
that other studies show
that actually there really has this report is that
or almost everybody right so now
that no matter what pledge or what program that they were
that having said that
if this program tom delays kids from having sex for a little while
and they have sex at fifteen rather thirteen or fifteen seventeen have been fifteen
billing as a parent pretty happy with that coletta success
insurance and by that i don't expect them to not have sex until they're twenty eight
i'm hoping they could make it very cheap
well i think
i think the problem and it's it's a well-made point
i think the issue with this is
a lot of people on the religious right and people have an agenda
that's tied to
uh... you know religion or moral teachings are trying to make up study is if you look
at the
at the bar so if you look on on the internet
there'd been a long crazy they're doing touched
on hands on dances dancing in the streets there over the top about their there so you
know this is such a huge below
so-called comprehensive sex education
all this stuff but that that's that's a great point let me just jump in with
it to brush that because one they're gonna absolutely pusses right away they are called
abstinence only beta say you see that jesus saves whatever today to go back to wasting
a lot of money on garbage programs right that's why i'm we're a little scared um... i don't
mind the study itself i'm scared about how it's gonna get twisted right this fax or fax
uh... but unfortunately not for the right wing bill to
and my problem is
make make sure he is already helping them right bike washing imposed by the title passes
only programs
might work study says that's not what the studies that that's true
that much and the reason why this is the problem is because or deal bonnet ministration has
decided to cut-out all funding for abstinence only education
okay of honest finally done something right and he said i'm not going to find any type
of sex ed curriculum unless there are studies proving that the curriculum is infected
now conservatives can come to hold on a and they can come to the administration say let's
look at the study abstinence focused education works but they'll twisted dealt with in a
way that sounds like accident only education works and then our money our tax dollars are
going to go toward these ineffective program now having said that their michell reaction
of the department of education was
well if this study were then we would be interested in doing this kind of
we might do funny behind that's which is reasonable thank you call that a compromise hey you know
between uh... comprehensive complete coverage of sex education
an absence of where the compromises absolute focus any of the study showing that works
well that's the kind of combines a good luck with that that make sense to me
as long as they don't go that extra step right now the conservator