RATCHETS UP THE NATIONAL CREDIT
LINE TO KEEP UP WITH THE
BORROWING AND SPENDING.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN JOINS US,
JUST GOT OFF THE SENATE FLOOR
SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO
DEFAULT.
SENATOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
YOU DON’T THINK THAT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, NEIL.
NEIL: SAME HERE.
>> THAT WON’T HAPPEN.
WE’LL COME TO THE OUR SENSES TO
PAY DEBT FOR SINS IN THE PATH.
TO SAY WE WON’T DISCUSS IT IS
NOT RATIONAL.
HOW WE ACCUMULATE SO MUCH DEBT
WITHIN 10 YEARS, FASTER THAN
ANYTIME IN HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY, HOW MUCH DEBT WE
ACCUMULATED.
DEBT TO GDP IS GREATER THAN
AFTER WORLD WAR II.
WE SAVED FROM FASCISM, WE WON
THE WORLD WAR IF YOU WILL, WE
LIBERATED EUROPE, WE DID ALL OF
THE THINGS YOU SAY THAT DEBT WAS
WELL-INVESTED IF YOU WILL.
IT IS HARD TO SAY THAT TODAY.
THAT IS THE CONCERN WE HAVE.
WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS UNDER
CONTROL.
NEIL: WELL IT IS NOT UNDER
CONTROL TO YOUR POINT.
NOW REPUBLICANS WANTED TO TIE
SPENDING CONCESSIONS WITH ANY
NEGOTIATIONS RAISING THAT DEBT
LIMIT.
ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT?
>> I’M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH
BASICALLY HOLDING THE CEILING,
DEBT CEILS, PAYING OUR DEBTS OF
THE PAST HOSTAGE.
THAT ACCOMPLISHES ANYTHING.
CAN’T WE AT LEAST HAVE A PIECE
OF LEGISLATION THAT WE AGREE ON,
THAT WE’RE GOING TO SIT DOWN IN
A BISTART PAWN, BICAMERAL WAY.
FIND OUT HOW WE ACCUMULATED SO
MUCH DEBT?
THINK ABOUT THIS 2013 WE HAD
$3.3 TRILLION OF SPENDING ON AN
ANNUAL BASIS.
NOW WE’RE AT 6.2, 80% INCREASE.
HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
BOTH IN DISCRETIONARY
NON-DISCRETIONARY, CAN WE LOOK
HOW WE ACCUMULATED, BECAUSE OF
COVID AND BOTH DEMOCRATS,
REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS
ACCUMULATED A LOT OF DEBT
BECAUSE OF COVID.
NOW COVID IS OVER.
CAN WE GO BACK TO NORMAL?
CAN WE HAVE REDUCTIONS HERE?
DON’T WE HAVE ANY SAVINGS.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO SCARE BEJESUS
OUT OF PEOPLE.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO CUT
SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE.
WE’VE TAKEN THAT OFF THE TABLE.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK
EFFICIENCIES WE SHOULD HAVE AND
HOW WE ACCUMULATED SO MUCH DEBT.
NEIL: DIDN’T WE DO IT A REPORT
OF SPENDING.
A LOT OF CRITICS YOUR SUPPORT
FOR THE PRESIDENT’S TWO TRILLION
DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.
THAT ADDED TO THE AGONY.
YOU SAY?
>> THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE
BILL WE ALL DID.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE A AWFUL LOT
OF MONEY INVESTED BACK, A LOT
BASICALLY ENERGY ECONOMY THAT
WILL BE GENERATED FROM THAT.
THEY SAY THAT THE INFLATION, THE
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, NEIL,
THAT WHOLE THING WAS ENERGY
SECURITY.
WE HAVE GOT MORE INVESTMENTS
COMING TO THE UNITED STATES.
IF THAT WAS SUCH A BAD DEAL WHY
ARE SO MANY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
COMING, SO MANY PEOPLE AND
EUROPEAN GOVERNMENT SO UPSET AND
CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING
INVESTMENTS IN THEIR COUNTRY
BECAUSE IT IS MORE ATTRACTIVE IN
AMERICA?
WE’RE DOING THINGS BASICALLY
STIMULATING ECONOMY, SHOULD
BRING MORE MONEY TO IT.
JUST SPENDING, SENDING CHECKS
OUT SPENDING MONEY FOR THE SAKE
EVER SPENDING IT PROVEN TO BE
LETHAL TO US NOW.
NEIL: THE PRESIDENT INDICATED
YESTERDAY, SENATOR, QUOTING, I
WANT TO BE CLEAR, I’M GOING TO
RAISE SOME TAXES.
HE DIDN’T OUTLINE WHAT TAXES HE
IS GOING TO RAISE.
YOU LIMITED THOSE HE WANTED TO
INCREASE A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT, WHAT DO
YOU THINK HE IS TALKING ABOUT?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
I WILL PROBABLY HEAR SOMETHING
TODAY HOPEFULLY WHAT DIRECTION
THEY WANT TO GO BUT I CAN ASSURE
YOU CAN’T BASICALLY JUST TAX
YOUR WAY OUT OF DEBT.
YOU CAN’T BORROW YOUR WAY OUT OF
DEBT AND YOU CAN’T CUT YOUR WAY
OUT OF DEBT.
YOU CAN DO COMBINATION OF ALL OF
THOSE TO CERTAIN EXTENT TO
MANAGE YOUR DEBT.
WE’RE NOT MANAGING DEBT.
THERE IS NOT A PERSON WATCHING,
LISTENING RIGHT NOW DOESN’T
MANAGE THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION
AND BE SUCCESSFUL THERE IS NOT A
FAMILY SITTING DOWN THAT DOESN’T
SIT DOWN.
WE HAD RECORD SPENDING 21 YEARS
IN A ROW, MORE THAN WHAT WE’VE
TAKEN IN.
WHEN YOU HAVE RUNNING A DEFICIT
21 YEARS IN A ROW, NOTHING HAS
HAPPENED, WE ACCUMULATED DEBT
AND WE’RE LOOKING AT NOW, 2050
IS USED AS BENCHMARK.
2050 IS BENCHMARK ON MANY THINGS
PEOPLE ARE STRIVING TO.
IF WE GO DOWN THE DEBT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE
ACCUMULATED IT BY 2050 WE’LL
HAVE, $130 TRILLION OF PUBLIC
DEBT.
WE’LL BE SPENDING FIVE TRILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR JUST INTEREST ON
THAT.
THAT’S NOT, NO WAY YOU CAN
SURVIVE.
NEIL: ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS, YOU
SAID SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE
NOT ON THE TABLE.
REPUBLICANS SAID THIS YEAR NOT
ON THE TABLE.
SHOULD THEY BE ON THE TABLE IN
FUTURE YEARS?
SHOULD WE START LOOKING --
>> YOU NEED TO, WEST VIRGINIA
60% OF OUR PEOPLE ARE ON
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
FOR THEM TO BE THINKING YOU’RE
NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT.
WE’RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT.
WE MAKE SURE THEY GET IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE 10 YEARS
FROM NOW THEY STILL HAVE THE
MONEY COMING IN AND THE MEDICARE
PROTECTION THEY’RE GETTING RIGHT
NOW FROM THEIR HEALTH CARE.
IF WE DO NOTHING JUST SIT BACK
WITH OUR HANDS IN OUR POCKETS WE
WON’T GET INVOLVED, THEY WILL
HAVE AUTOMATIC CUTS.
WE CAN’T LET THAT HAPPEN.
NEIL: WHERE WOULD YOU SAY, WE
HAVE TO LOOK EXTENDING AGE,
RAISING TAXES OR THOSE 50 AND
OVER SHOULDN’T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT THIS, WHERE ARE YOU ON THE
AGE OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE TO
SAY ALL RIGHT, WE’LL PUSH THIS
BACK A LITTLE BIT?
>> I THINK IS THERE A BETTER
PROGRAM, IS THERE A BETTER WAYS
YOUNGER PEOPLE CAN INVEST TO
HAVE SOMETHING FOR RETIREMENT?
I DON’T KNOW.
IF YOU CAN’T EVEN SIT DOWN AND
TALK WITH EXPERTS AND TALK WITH
PEOPLE THAT HAVE, KNOW
WHEREWITHALS TO SAY YOU’RE NOT
EVEN GOING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING,
ONLY THING I’M TELLING YOU I’M
NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IS CUTTING
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE FOR
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING,
DEPENDING ON IT, WORKED HARD AND
EARNED IT.
WITH THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
EVERYTHING.
HOW DO YOU SUSTAIN WHAT YOU
HAVE?
THAT IS JUST NORMAL.
THAT IS NORMAL DISCUSSIONS
PEOPLE HAVE, DINING ROOM TABLE
OR KITCHEN TABLE OR EVERY DAY.
NEIL: RIGHT.
WE STILL DON’T KNOW OFFICIALLY
WHAT THE PRESIDENT’S PLANS ARE
FOR RE-ELECTION.
LOOKS LIKE HE WILL RUN AGAIN.
HIS WIFE SEEMS TO BE SAYING
THAT.
THEY MIGHT NOT BE ON THE SAME
PAGE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS
NOT BEEN UNEQUIVOCAL, IF HE WERE
TO RUN AGAIN WOULD YOU SUPPORT
HIM?
>> LET’S SEE WHO IS IN THE GAME.
I WILL NOT SAY I WILL SUPPORT,
NOT SUPPORT ANYBODY.
I WANT TO FIND THE BEST PATHWAY FOR AMERICA.
FOR AMERICA.
WE GOT TO GET OUT OF TOXIC RIPS
WE HAVE IN THE POLITICAL
PROCESS.
NEIL: HE IS A DEMOCRAT, YOU’RE A
DEMOCRAT.
YOU WOULDN’T ALLALLY SUPPORT THE
PRESIDENT FOR RE-ELECTION.
>> HOLD ON.
HE IS OUR PRESIDENT.
WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS OUR
PRESIDENT, YOU BETTER PRAY AND
SUPPORT YOUR PRESIDENT EVERY
DAY, IF THEY DO WELL THE COUNTRY
DOES WELL.
WHETHER I’M GOING TO SUPPORT
INDIVIDUAL WHETHER DEMOCRAT OR
REPUBLICAN THAT IS NOT WHAT IS
UP FOR GRABS FOR NOW.
NOT WHAT I’M SIGNING UP.
NEIL: IF IT WERE DONALD TRUMP AS
REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, AGAINST
JOE BIDEN WHO WOULD YOU SUPPORT?
>> I WILL LOOK AT -- I’M GOING,
I’M GOING TO FIND A PATHWAY THAT
BASICALLY BRINGS AMERICA
TOGETHER, WHO CAN DO THAT THE
BEST, WHO HAS THE BEST PLAN FOR
FUTURE OF AMERICA.
BECAUSE I’M CONCERNED RIGHT NOW
AS A LOT OF AMERICANS.
THINGS ARE NOT GOING THE WAY
THEY SHOULD GO.
THEY HAVEN’T BEEN DOING THAT FOR
A LONG TIME.
BLAME EITHER PARTY.
MAYBE NOT WORKING ON EITHER
PARTY.
I’M LOOKING FOR A PATHWAY
FORWARD TO MAKE AMERICA
TOGETHER, UNITED AND STRONGER.
NEIL: ARE YOU RUNNING FOR
RE-ELECTION IN WEST VIRGINIA,
SENATOR?
>> NEIL, I SAY AGAIN.
I’M LOOKING FOR THAT PATHWAY
THAT WILL UNITE US, BASICALLY
GOING TO GET AMERICA STRONGER
AND KEEP US A COUNTRY AND HAVE
BEEN.
NEIL: I UNDERSTAND.
ARE YOU RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION
AS SENATOR?
>> I AM GOING TO DO WHATEVER I
HAVE CAN TO HELP MY COUNTRY BE
BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
NEIL: ARE YOU TROUBLED BY POLLS
THAT SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW AT LEAST
TRAILING YOUR GOVERNOR JIM
JUSTICE BY AT LEAST 20 POINTS?
WOULD THAT INFLUENCE YOUR
DECISION, IF WE WERE IN FACT THE
NOMINEE TO TAKE YOU ON?
>> NO I NEVER MADE A DECISION
BASED ON THAT.
IF I DECIDE, I’M GOING TO BE
INVOLVED.
IF I DECIDE TO RUN AND WHATEVER,
I’M GOING TO BE INVOLVED.
I INTEND TO WIN.
SO I’M RUNNING FOR SENATE AGAIN.
IF I INTEND TO DO THAT I WILL
WIN, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT
BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU SEE
WEST VIRGINIANS LOOK AT ME NOT
AS DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
LOOK AS SOMEONE PERFORMED
BASICALLY DELIVERED.
I DONE THAT ALL MY LIFE.
BEEN UP FRONT, TRANSPARENT.
SO I THINK I FEEL VERY GOOD
ABOUT THE ELECTION, WHATEVER
DECISION WE MAKE HERE BUT I’M
GOING TO MAKE SURE MY COUNTRY
AND MY STATE HAS THE ABILITY TO
FUNCTION NORMALLY AND NOT IN A
DYSFUNCTIONED WAY.
NOT BEING TORN APART BY THE
TOXIC POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE WE
HAVE.
NEIL: WOULD YOU RUN, SIR AS A
DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN?
SOME HAVE SAID YOU’RE
CONSIDERING BECOMING A
REPUBLICAN OR MAYBE AN
INDEPENDENT?
>> NEIL, I’M GOING TO DO
WHATEVER I CAN.
THAT IS PLENTY OF TIME BETWEEN
NOW AND THEN TO DO WHATEVER I
CAN TO HELP MY COUNTRY GET OUR
FINANCIAL HOUSE BACK IN ORDER.
NEIL: YOU’RE NOT RULING IT OUT?
YOU’RE NOT RULING IT OUT WHEN
YOU SAID YOU WOULDN’T
NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE
PRESIDENT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WAS
A DEMOCRAT, YOU WOULD CHOOSE THE
MAN OR WOMAN TO DECIDE --
>> I WILL SUPPORT THE BEST PATH
FOR THE COUNTRY AND HOW WE MAKE
OUR COUNTRY BETTER AND STRONGER
AND MORE UNITED AND RIGHT NOW I
DON’T THINK ANYBODY CAN SAY
WE’RE TOGETHER AND UNITED.
IT BASICALLY THE POLITICAL
PARTIES ARE TEARING US APART.
WE’VE GOT TO COME TOGETHER F ONE
PARTY CAN DO THAT BETTER THAN
THE OTHER PARTY, SO BE IT.
LET’S WAIT AND SEE.
RIGHT NOW BOTH ARE NOT DOING A
VERY GOOD JOB OF THAT.
NEIL: SO YOU’RE OPEN TO THE
POSSIBILITY OF SWITCHING
PARTIES?
>> [LAUGHTER].
OH, NEIL.
NEIL: JUST HAD TO THROW THAT OUT
THERE ONE MORE TIME TO CATCH YOU
UNAWARE.
LET ME STEP BACK, SENATOR, GET A
SENSE OF LANDSCAPE, YOU AND
SENATOR JON TESTER OF MONTANA
TAKEN PRESIDENT ON WITH ESG,
POLITICAL COLLECT WOKE
INVESTING.
YOU DON’T LIKE IT.
THAT IS LIKELY, THE VOTES ARE
THERE TO GO AHEAD AND OVERTURN
IT, THE PRESIDENT WILL VETO IT.
REMEMBER THE DEMOCRATS WHO
DIDN’T SUPPORT HIM.
HE WILL REMEMBER YOU AND SENATOR
TESTER.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
I MEAN MY MADE MY DECISION
EASILY MADE MY DECISION THAT I
DON’T BELIEVE UNDER ERISA, WHICH
IS BLANKET HOW YOU WILL LOOK AT
EVERYTHING FROM YOUR 401(k)S
OR ANY OF YOUR PENSION PLANS IT
SHOULD BE MANDATORY THING THEY
SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
IN THE PRIVATE MARKET, LET THE
PRIVATE MARKET DO WHAT IT IS
GOING TO DO.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO INVEST
THEIR MONEY, ONLY HAVE THE
RETIREMENT PLAN INVEST IN
CERTAIN ACCOUNTS THAT MIGHT BE
ENVIRONMENTAL, MORE FOSSIL,
WHATEVER THEY MAY, THEY CAN FIND
PEOPLE WHO WIN INVEST WHAT THEY
WANT.
THAT IS FINE.
LET THE MARKET CONTINUE TO MAKE
THOSE DECISIONS.
NEIL: THERE SHOULD NOT BE A
POLITICAL LITMUS TEST TOTTERRIES
IS A, EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT INCOME
SECURITY ACT?
>> THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PART.
IF THAT IS THE DETERMINATION,
THE GEOPOLITICAL RISK YOU’RE
TAKING WHEN YOU MAKE THESE
DECISIONS TO MAKE SURE THE
PROGRAMS STAY SOLVENT SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED TOO?
IF YOU’RE NOT SURE, LOOK WHAT
HAPPENED AT THE EU ASK GERMANY
HOW WELL IT WORKED FOR THEM?
NEIL: LET ME ASK YOU, GOVERNOR
MIKE DEWINE WAS SPEAKING EARLIER
THIS MORNING ON THIS NETWORK,
SIR, TALKING ABOUT MAYBE IT’S
TIME THE PRESIDENT REALLY VISIT
EAST PALESTINE.
TALKING ABOUT IT, ACE AGENCIES
DEALING WITH IT ISN’T ENOUGH.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
>> I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF
WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR I KNEW I HAD
TO BE THERE.
I KNEW THAT GAVE CONFIDENCE TO
THE CITIZENS OF MY STATE IF I
WAS THERE.
I KNOW BEING PRESIDENT, 50
STATES, WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAGEDY
SUCH AS THIS, THAT IS 20 MILES
FROM THE BORDER OF WEST
VIRGINIA.
I SPOKE TO ALL OF THEIR
DIFFERENT WATER DEPARTMENTS
BECAUSE SOME OF THAT HAD LEAKED
INTO THE OHIO RIVER.
WE’RE WATCHING THAT PLUME AS IT
WAS FLOATING BY.
THEY TOOK ALTERNATIVE ACTION TO
MAKE SURE WOULDN’T INGEST ANY OF
THAT IN THE WATER FILTRATION
PLANTS.
WE ARE ALL CONCERNED TO THAT
EXTENT.
EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT STYLE.
I PERSONALLY IF ANY WAY HUMANLY
POSSIBLE BE THERE IMMEDIATELY
THE SAME DAY OR DAY AFTER IF
ANYTHING HAPPENED IN MY STATE.
THAT IS MY STYLE I THOUGHT WOULD
BE EFFECTIVE.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR LEADERS TO
BE THERE, YEAH.
NEIL: FINALLY, SIR, OBVIOUSLY
WEST VIRGINIA IS COAL PRODUCING
STATE, TRADITIONAL ENERGY
PRODUCING STATE.
YOU WANTED TO PROTECT THAT IN
SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU SIGNED
ON TO, THERE IS MOVE FROM MANY
STATES, NEW JERSEY, TO GO ALL EV
WITHIN THE NEXT DECADE OR SO.
>> BIG MISTAKE.
BIG MISTAKE.
NEIL: EXPLAIN WHY.
>> THE MISTAKE FIRST OF ALL WE
DON’T HAVE A SUPPLY CHAIN WE CAN
RELY ON IT IS ALL FROM GERMANY,
RUSSIA -- CHINA.
CHINA, EV BATTERIES WHATEVER
THEY WANT TO DO.
UNTIL WE GET OUR BATTERY
MANUFACTURING UP AND RUNNING,
UNTIL WE GET OUR SOURCING FOR
CRITICAL MINERALS BASICALLY BE
FROM NORTH AMERICA, UNITED
STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO OR
FROM A COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE A
FREE-TRADE AGREEMENT OR OUR
ALLIES OVERSEAS PEOPLE WE CAN
DEPEND ON IT WON’T HOLD US
HOSTAGE TO MAKE US ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A GUARANTEED
SUPPLY CHAIN IT IS CRAZY TO GO
DOWN THAT.
THAT IS WHY I DID THE IRA,
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT TO MAKE
SURE WE DEVELOPED A ENERGY
POLICY HERE THAT WAS BASICALLY
ALL INCLUSIVE, BASICALLY MADE US
ENERGY SECURE BUT ESPECIALLY OUR
TRANSPORTATION MODE.
IT IS NEVER IN THE HISTORY BEEN
DEPENDENT ON ANY OTHER COUNTRY
TO SUPPLY ANYTHING THAT WE
NEEDED, FOR AUTOMOBILES TRAINS,
PLANES.
NEVER HAPPENED.
NEIL: SENATOR, FINALLY I LIED
BEFORE WHEN I SAID THAT WAS THE
LAST QUESTION, I’M CURIOUS WHAT
YOU MAKE OF THE PUSH TO GET MORE
FUNDING TO HELP TAIWAN WITH
WEAPONS, THE REST, $269 MILLION.
WE’RE SENDING UPWARDS OF 200
TROOPS THERE.
CHINA IS GETTING VERY
PROVOCATIVE IN ITS RESPONSE TO
ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
DO YOU THINK WE COULD GO TO WAR?
>> THAT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY
WITH THE UNCERTAINTY AND GEE LOW
POLITICAL UNREST, WE HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL WHAT WE’RE DOING AND HOW
WE’RE DOING IT SEND RIGHT
SIGNALS.
THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE PEACE IS
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH.
IF YOU THINK IN UKRAINE THERE
WILL BE PEACEFUL NEGOTIATIONS IT
WILL BE ONLY BE BECAUSE OF THE
STRENGTH WE’VE SUPPLIED AND
BACKING THAT WE HAVE GIVEN
UKRAINE FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN
THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL TYPE OF A
TREATY IF YOU WILL.
BUT NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT
STRENGTH.
SPEAKING OF CHINA, WILL BACK
DOWN AND NOT KEEP THREATENING
TAIWAN WILL ONLY BE THROUGH
STRENGTH.
ON THAT I DO SUPPORT OUR ALLIES
AND BASICALLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE
THE SAME VALUES THAT WE HAVE
AGAINST THOSE COUNTRIES THAT
DON’T.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CHINA, YOU LOOK
AT RUSSIA, YOU LOOK AT IRAN, YOU
LOOK AT NORTH KOREA, THEY DON’T
HAVE OUR VALUES AND THEY’RE NOT
GOING TO BE WELL-INTENDED WHEN
THEY GO INTO THESE AREAS,
WHATEVER THEY’RE INTENDING TO
DO.
YES.
IF YOU’RE A SUPERPOWER OF THE
WORLD, YOU’RE DEFENDING
DEMOCRACIES AND FREEDOM THAT
COMES WITH A DEMOCRACY, THEN WE
ARE THAT LEADER.
WE’VE GOT TO BE OUT FRONT.
NEIL: SENATOR, ALWAYS GOOD
CATCHING UP WITH YOU.