I HAVE TO BRING IN MY GUESTS. CHARLIE SYKES IS IN TOWN.
HE’S THE EDDS TORE IN CHIEF OF
BULWARK
BULWARK BULWARKS.
BULWARKS. THEY’RE DEFENDING THIS MOVE, BUT
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, ARE THEY
NOT WORRIED THAT THIS BROADER
PLAN IS GOING TO BLOW UP IN
THEIR FACE?
THEIR FACE? >> SAY CERTAINLY ARE.
THERE’S BEEN NO PROOF ON BOTH
SIESD OF THE AISLE THAT IT’S
NECESSARY AND THEY DON’T HAVE
PROOF THAT THIS NATIONAL
EMERGENCY FITS THE TRADITIONAL
DEFINITIONS OF AN EMERGENCY.
SOME OF THE AREAS IN WHICH THE
PRESIDENT IS LOOKING AT
TRANSFERRING FUNDS INCLUDES
MILITARY PRODUCTS, DRUG
FORFEITURE FUNDS, AND THERE’S A
CONCERN THAT OTHER PROJECTS THAT
NEED TO BE FUNDED WON’T BE
FUNDED NOW TO FUND THE
PRESIDENT’S PET PROJECT.
>> WE HAVE TO REMIND THE
PRESIDENT HE IS CHECKING THIS
OFF HIS LIST AS FAR AS
FULFILLING HIS CAMPAIGN
PROMISES.
PROMISES. HE HASN’T.
HE HASN’T. REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT SAID HE
WANTED TO BUILD A WALL AND
MEXICO WOULD PAY FOR IT.
NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT $8
BILLION OF OUR MONEY.
CHARLIE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT WAS SADS A FEW WEEKS AGO
ABOUT THE RISK OF DECLARING A
NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
NATIONAL EMERGENCY. TAKE A LOOK.
>> IT’S NOT A GOOD PRECEDENT TO
SET IN TERMS OF ACTION.
IT DOES NOT MEAN I DOME WANT
BORDER SECURITY.
BORDER SECURITY. I DO.
I DO. THAT’S NOT THE WAY TO ACHIEVE
IT.
IT. YOU COULD WIND UP IN A THEATRIC
VICTORY IN THE FRONT END AND
THEN NOT GETTING IT DONE.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. SO WE’LL GET THE THEATRICS, AND
THE PRESIDENT WILL SPIN THIS AS
A WIN.
A WIN. WHAT’S YOUR TAKE.
>> THIS IS THEIR NIGHTMARE
SCENARIO.
SCENARIO. >> WHAT REPUBLICANS THOUGH?
?
? >> IF THEY STICK TO IT.
DRAMATIC, DANGEROUS, LIKELY TO
BACKFIRE.
BACKFIRE. IMAGINE THAT DONALD TRUMP GOES
TO COURT AND THE COURTS
ESTABLISH A FIRM PRECEDENT OF
EXECUTIVE POWER TO OVERRIDE
CONGRESS’S ABILITY TO
APPROPRIATE.
APPROPRIATE. THINK OF THE PRECEDENT THAT SETS
FOR FUTURE DEMOCRATS.
THAT’S NOT PRACTICAL.
NANCY PELOSI SAID, WELL, WE CAN
DO A NATIONAL EMERGENCY ON THE
CLIMATE.
CLIMATE. >> ON GUN CONTROL.
>> OR HEALTH CARE.
>> THIS IS NOT A HUGE LEAP.
THIS IS WHY REPUBLICANS HAVE
BEEN URGING DONALD TRUMP NOT TO
DO THIS, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE
OTHER PROBLEMS INCLUDING EMINENT
DOMAIN, TAKING PEOPLE’S PRIVATE
PROPERTY WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE
WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM,
HOW IT’S COMING OUT OF THE
MILITARY BUDGET.
MILITARY BUDGET. AND YESTERDAY THE WAY IT’S
COMING UP, THE SENATE WILL HAVE
TO VOTE ON IT.
THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCE.
CIRCUMSTANCE. IF THE HOUSE VOTES ON THIS,
MITCH McCOME WILL BRING THIS UP
AND THEY’LL HAVE TO GO ON THE
RECORD.
RECORD. THIS IS A RED LINE FOR THE
CONSERVATIVES THAT OH, COME ON.
WE’VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT RED
LINE --
LINE -- >> THIS IS A STAUNIVE RED LINE.
IF YOU VOTE WITH THE PRESIDENT
ON THIS, YOU REALLY HAVE GERCH
UP THE REPUBLICAN BRAND AS THE
PARTY OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT.
>> WOULDN’T YOU THINK BLOWING
THROUGH THE DEAF SIGS, THE WAY
WE’RE SPENDING?
WE’RE SPENDING? COME ON NOW WITH YOUR RED LINE.
>> THIS OUGHT TO BE A RED LINE,
A GUTD CHECK.
YOU ARE MEMBERS OF A CO-EQUAL
BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
YOU’RE NOT JUST POTTED PLANTS.
YOU DON’T WORK FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AND YOU HAVE THE NUMBER ONE
POWERS OF CONGRESS.
YOU HAVE ALL THE ISSUES.
THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY
INTERESTING.
INTERESTING. >> MICHAEL, WHAT’S YOUR TACK ONK
THIS?
THIS? CAN IT BE THE PRESIDENT’S NEW
JAM THAT IF HE DOESN’T GET HIS
WAY, HE CAN SAY,ING A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY TIME.
EMERGENCY TIME. >> I THINK IT’S ILL SIGHTED.
I THINK HE ALSO HURTS HIMSELF.
HE HURTS THE CONSTITUENTS.
ALL THOSE FOUR DEPARTMENTS WHO
THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING MONEY,
THEY’RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY.
THE PUBLIC IS NOT HAPPY.
FOR SOMEONE WHO THINKS D CLIMATE
CHANGE IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY,
ONE DAY THERE WILL BE A
DEMOCRATIC PRESS KENNEL.
THERE WILL BE NO WAY THEY’RE NOT
SAYING YOU’LL GET WHATEVER
FUNDING YOU WANT.
SO MAYBE $8 BILLION IS NOT THAT
MUCH AND A WALL -- IT SEEMS FINE
TO ME ACTUALLY, BUT CLIMATE
CHANGE IS A BIG ISSUE.
A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE WILL BE ABLE
TO GET WHATEVER FUNDING HE OR
SHE WANTS BY DECLARING AN
EMERGENCY.
EMERGENCY. >> HERE’S WHAT SPEAKER PELOSI
SAID ABOUT THE FUTURE OF
DEMOCRATS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
>> DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS CAN
DECLARE EMERGENCIES AS WELL.
THE PRECEDENT THE PRESIDENT IS
SETTING SHOULD BE SET WITH GREAT
UNEASE AND DISMAY BY THE
REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. >> WHAT’S YOUR TAKE?
>> WE’VE BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH
OTHER PRESIDENCIES.
OTHER PRESIDENCIES. THE ROOSEVELT ADMINISTRATION
MADE SOME PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE
WITH EXECUTIVE OVERREACH AND
TERM LIMITS CAME OUT AMONG OTHER
THINGS.
THINGS. HE TRIED TO PACK THE SUPREME
COURT.
COURT. NIXON AND HIS CRIMINALITY AND
ACTS.
ACTS. I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING
THINGS WITH THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS DESPITE HIS
EX-SAYSES AND FAULT, WILL THIS
MAKE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
AISLE RECONSIDER WHAT THAT
OFFICE IS ABOUT AND PUT IN SOME
NEW PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES
AROUND IT SO YOU WON’T HAVE
SOMEONE ELSE IN THE FUTURE
COMING IN AND DOING A TRUMP.
WILL PRESIDENTS BE REQUIRED TO
COME IN AND SUBMIT THEIR TAXES
AND WALL OFF THEIR FINANCES AND
ASSETS FROM THEIR OWN PERSONAL
AND SELF INTEREST.
IN THIS CASE IT’S A COMPLETE RUN
BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.
IT’S THE CONGRESS THAT CONTROLS
THE PURSE STRINGS ON THESE KINDS
OF THINGS, NOT THE EXECUTIVE.
>> LIKE IT’S A DANCE MOVE.
CHARLIE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND
POLITICS.
POLITICS. WHY DOES ANN COULTER’S VIEW
MATTER SO MUCH?
WHO IS ANN COULTER’S BASE?
WHO IS SHE SPEAKING FOR.
WE’RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE
A BE UP.
A BE UP. OF NEWZEALOTS.
OF NEWZEALOTS. YOU’VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE
SAYING, I’M SORRY, WHAT’S IN
THIS PREDEAL?
THIS PREDEAL? WHAT ARE NEW YORKERS DOING
REGARDING AMAZON?
REGARDING AMAZON? THIS DOESN’T WORK FOR ME.
IF THE PRESIDENT CHOSE TO PIVOT,
YOU’D GET A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE
HOLDING THERANOS AND CLOSING
THEIR EYES SAYING, I MAY NEED GO
WITH THIS GUY AGAIN.
WHO’S STANDING BEHIND AND SAYING
BRAVO, SISTER?
BRAVO, SISTER? I DON’T KNOW WHO THAT IS.
HE’S FLIPPED THE SWITCH ON THAT,
WHICH IS REALLY REMARKABLE.
ANN COULTER -- LOOK, PRESIDENT
TRUMP CANNOT LOSE ANY OF HIS
BASE.
BASE. >> SHE REPRESENTS HIS BASE?
>> A CERTAIN HARD CORE OF HIS
BASE, AND SHE’S NOT GOING ALONG
WITH IT.
WITH IT. HE WAS MORE KRNG ABOUTCONCERNED
WOULD GET THROUGH THE SITE.
>> HERE’S THE THING.
SEAN HANNITY ISN’T BREAKING UP
WITH TRUMP EVER.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> SO WHY WORRY ABOUT THAT?
WHY NOT THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE
PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE WHO HE
COULD WIN OVER?
>> I ACTUALLY DON’T THINK
HANNITY AND COULDER ARE PART OF
THE BASE.
THE BASE. I THINK THEY’RE PART OF TRUMP’S
OBSESSION WITH WHOU HE’S
APPEARED AS IN THE MEDIA.
WHAT’S HAPPENED NOW IS HE’S A
CREATURE OF THE MEDIA AND HE HAS
A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE
REPUBLICAN BASE THAT HE NEEDS --
THAT HE FEELS HE NEEDS TO PAY
ATTENTION TO.
ATTENTION TO. BUT WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH
HANNITY AND COULDER, THEY’RE
PLAYING ON TRUMP’S EGO AND HIS
COMPLETE ACTUAL INSECURITY.
>> HE HAS A BINARY OF TOUGHNESS.
I WAS WATCHING HIS BROADCAST AND
HANNITY INTERRUPTED IT AND SAID
THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY.
>> AND THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO
ANSWER TO ME.
WHAT DOES THAT EACH MEAN.
>> WHEN HE SAYS ANN COULDER IS
NOT THE PROBLEM, SHE SHOULDN’T
BE.
BE. WHO IS SHE SPEAKING FOR AND WHO
IS SHE SPEAKING TO.
>> YES.
>> YES. PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER BE
SATISFIED.
SATISFIED. >> SHE CRACKED THE CODE.
IF YOU GO AFTER TRUMP AND SAY
HE’S NOT MANLY, HE’S LOSING,
HE’S WEAK, SHE UNDERSTANDS THE
PSYCHOLOGY, SO SHE GETS URN HIS
SKIN, WHICH IS WHY HE’S NOT
FOLLOWING HER ON TWITTER
ANYMORE.
ANYMORE. >> HE BLOCKED HER.
>> WHAT?
>> WHAT? >> HE’S NOT FOLLOWING HER.
HE STOPPED FOLLOWER HER.
>> SHE’S NOT LISTENING TO HER
AND HAVE EVERYBODY SAY THIS IS A
HUMILIATING SURRENDER.
HUMILIATING SURRENDER. >> EXCEPT WHEN HE SHOWS UP --
SKPIPTS.
SKPIPTS. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT MAR-A-LAGO
ARE NOT SEAN HANNITY AND ANN
COULTER DISCIPLES.
COULTER DISCIPLES. THAT’S THE THING I DON’T
UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. THE PEOPLE AT MAR-A-LAGO ARE NOT
ANN COULD ENS.
THE HIGHLY AFFLUENT PEOPLE WHO
SUPPORTED HIM AND VACATIONED AT
THAT.
THAT. HE FOLLOWS HER.
F WHAT HE SAYS WILL GET THROUGH
TO NATIONAL MEDIA AND HE’LL HAVE
TO HEAR THOSE WORDS RNGS AND
THAT’S WHY HE EADS HAVE TO