AND FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
FOR COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AND
SECURITY ANALYST, FRANK JOINS
US.
FIRST, START WITH YOUR REPORTING
AND TELL US IF THERE ARE ANY
UPDATES TODAY.
>> FOR MONTHS, YEARS, THERE HAVE
BEEN INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION, THE
FINANCIAL DEALINGS IN NEW YORK,
AND THEY SEEM TO BE COMING TO A
HEAD NOW.
TODAY WAS THE FINAL DEADLINE,
END OF DAY TODAY, TO PRESENT ANY
SORT OF MITIGATING EVIDENCE TO
NOT HAVE CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST
THE COMPANY AND OUR SOURCES
INDICATE THE CFO ALLEN
WEISSELBERG COULD FACE CHARGES
AS SOON AS LATER THIS WEEK.
A TWO-PRONGED EFFORT HERE.
ONE THE TRUMP CORPORATION AS A
WHOLE AND THEN WEISSELBERG IN
PARTICULAR.
PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK HAVE
BEEN QUITE FRUSTRATED THEYVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE
COOPERATION THEY WANTED FROM MR.
WEISSELBERG.
THEY BELIEVE HE STILL MAINTAINS
CLOSE CONTACT WITH FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND ON A RECENT
MORNING MY COLLEAGUE SAW HIM
DRIVE HIS BMW INTO TRUMP TOWER.
HES GOING THERE ALMOST EVERY
DAY.
RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS THERES A
CRESCENDO COMING IN THE UPCOMING
DAYS ON VARIOUS INVESTIGATORY
FRONTS IN NEW YORK.
>> JOYCE, IF WE GO BACK IN TIME
AND WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE
KNOW PROSECUTORS HAVE, EXPLAIN
WHY THEY NEED WEISSELBERGS
COOPERATION WITH ALL OF THE
PAPER THAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM.
>> THE KEY INFLECTION POINT IN
CASES OF FRAUD IS PROVING
KNOWLEDGE AND INTENT ON THE PART
OF DEFENDANTS.
ITS EASIER TO GO AFTER THE
CORPORATION.
I SUSPECT WELL SEE THAT IF AN
INDICTMENT IS HANDED DOWN HERE.
BUT CY VANCE AND LETITIA JAMES
HAVE A TREASURE-TROVE OF
DOCUMENTS.
THEY STILL NEED SOMEONE, THOUGH,
WHO CAN PUT KNOWLEDGE AND INTENT
IN THE MIND OF THE PRESIDENT.
AND WHO BETTER THAN WEISSELBERG,
WHO HAS BEEN WITH HIM FOR
DECADES, WHO LIKELY KNOWS WHERE
ALL OF THE BODIES ARE BURIED,
AND CAN TALK ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT, THE FORMER
PRESIDENTS LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT
IN TRANSACTIONS.
AT THIS POINT WITHOUT A
COOPERATOR IN WEISSELBERGS
SHOES, THERES AT LEAST SOME
POSSIBILITY THAT TRUMP OR OTHER
KEY FOLKS INVOLVED IN THE
CORPORATION WOULD HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DEFEND BY SAYING
WEISSELBERG DID THIS.
IT WAS HIM, IT WAS FOLKS AT HIS
LEVEL.
WE DIDNT KNOW.
WE WOULD HAVE NEVER CONDONED
THIS.
THATS WHY SOMEONE LIKE
WEISSELBERG IS THE LINCHPIN
WITNESS FOR PROSECUTORS.
>> SO, FRANK, TALK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS FROM THE INVESTIGATIVE
SIDE IF THE COMPANY IS
CRIMINALLY CHARGED TODAY OR
LATER THIS WEEK.
>> WELL, FIRST, LETS PAY
PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE
ACTUAL CHARGES THEMSELVES
BECAUSE THERES A LOT OF
THEORIZING ABOUT WHETHER THE
FRINGE BENEFITS AND FAILURE TO
DISCLOSE THEM, WHICH IS SERIOUS
IN AND OF ITSELF, ABSOLUTELY.
I DONT MEAN TO DOWNPLAY THOSE.
BUT MANY PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK
THERE ARE MORE CHARGES COMING
THAN JUST THAT.
IF ITS KIND OF PAINTED AS THE
TRUMP ATTORNEY IS PAINTING IT
SAYING THIS IS ABOUT -- PEOPLE
GOT FRINGE BENEFITS BUT ITS NOT
PART OF THEIR SALARY OR INCOME,
AND ITS GOING TO BE PAINTED TO
THE TRUMP BASE AS, LOOK, THERES
A SNAFU WITH HOW WE DECIDED TO
HANDLE THESE THINGS.
WHO CAN FIGURE OUT THEIR TAXES
ANYWAY?
I THINK THERES MORE COMING.
LETS PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION
TO WHAT THOSE CHARGES ARE.
ALSO, EVEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT, THE
PUBLIC REPORTING THAT CHARGES
ARE COMING, SERVES A PURPOSE
WHETHER ITS INTENDED OR NOT FOR
OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE
TO THINK THIS MAY BE THE TIME.
ID BETTER COME FORWARD NOW.
LETS WATCH AND SEE IF THERES
SOME EVIDENCE OF OTHER PEOPLE
COMING IN TO COOPERATE IF
WEISSELBERG WONT.
AND WE NEED TO WATCH FROM A
SECURITY STANDPOINT HOW TRUMP
AND HIS COHORTS PORTRAY THIS TO
THEIR BASE, WHETHER THEY WILL
USE RHETORIC THAT INFLAMES
PEOPLE TOWARD POSSIBLE VIOLENCE
OR FURTHER UNDERMINES OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
>> WELL, FRANK, I NEED YOU TO
SAY MORE.
IM THINKING AS I LISTEN TO ALL
THREE OF YOU THAT TRUMP HAS NOW
BEEN -- HES RUN AFOUL OF THE
LAW SO MANY TIMES WE HAVE SO
MANY MODELS TO LOOK AT WHETHER
ITS AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRACY
IN MICHAEL COHENS DOCUMENTS FOR
CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS,
WHETHER ITS THE SIX OBSTRUCTIVE
ACTS OF OBSTRUCTING THE MULLER
INVESTIGATION.
WE HAVE SEEN THE PLAYBOOK RUN
ENOUGH TIMES.
YOU MENTIONED A SECURITY
CONCERN.
SAY MORE.
>> THERES A TRACK RECORD OF
ATTACKING THE INVESTIGATORS,
ATTACKING THE PROSECUTORS.
AND ANYTIME YOU DO THAT, THERE
IS THIS GROWING FRINGE ELEMENT
THAT WANTS TO ACT OUT VIOLENTLY
BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE SO LOYAL
TO THIS FORMER GUY THAT WHEN
THEY THINK HES BEING UNFARPLY L
ATTACKED THEY ACT OUT.
HE SEEMS TO RELISH THAT BUT DOES
NOTHING TO CONTAIN THAT AND SAY
I DONT MEAN YOU SHOULD BE GOING
AND HURTING PEOPLE, THAT YOU
SHOULD BE ATTACKING THE
COURTHOUSE OR PEOPLES HOMES
THIS IS A TRACK RECORD.
I THINK WE SHOULD GET CONCERNED
ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE
FOR SECURITY IN AND AROUND THE
D.A.S OFFICE IN MANHATTAN AND
THE COURTHOUSE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT KIND OF
INTELLIGENCE GATHERING IS NEEDED
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEYRE GOING
TO START TO INFLAME PEOPLE.
>> JOSH, I KNOW ITS YOUR JOB TO
WATCH THE THINGS THE
EX-PRESIDENT SAYS AND DOES.
I MISSED HIS POLITICAL EVENTS
OVER THE WEEKEND.
HAS HE ALREADY STARTED
ATTACKING?
I THINK IT IS PUBLIC FACING
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF GUILT OR
IMPENDING LEGAL DOOM WHEN HE
STARTS ATTACKING THE PEOPLE
INVESTIGATING HIM.
HAS THAT COMMENCED ALREADY?
>> IT HAS.
IN NORTH CAROLINA AND OHIO.
YOURE ALREADY SEEING LOTS OF
CRITICAL RHETORIC.
WHAT HES DOING IS PAINTING THEM
AS PART OF A BROADER DEEP STATE
CABAL AS HES DONE FOR YEARS TO
PUT THEM IN WITH MUELLER AND
THESE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO AFTER
HIM AS UNFAIR FISHING HE HAD PE
DECISION
EX
EXPEDITION, WITCH-HUNT, AND HES
DONE THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN
WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS
INQUIRIES INTO HIM AND HIS
ADMINISTRATION.
YOURE ALREADY SEEING THAT WITH
HIS ALLIES AS WELL ON SOCIAL
MEDIA AND TELEVISION APPEARANCES
WHERE THEY QUESTION THE
CREDIBILITY OF JAMES AND VANCE
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE IF ANY SORT
OF CHARGES ARE BROUGHT AGAINST
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION OR MR.
WEISSELBERG THERE WILL BE A
FULL-THROTTLE ATTACK MODE FROM
THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND HIS
ALLIES.
THERE WILL BE AN ATTEMPT TO
SCOURGE AND BESMIRCH THEM.
HES DONE IT OVER AND OVER.