SOURCES ALSO SAY FULTON COUNTY
DA FANI WILLIS IS EXPECTED TO
CALL MULTIPLE WITNESSES AS SHE
WRAPS UP HER 2020 ELECTION
INTERFERENCE CASE AND SEEKS
CHARGES AGAINST POSSIBLY MORE
THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE.
WHAT'S KEY TO UNDERSTAND THIS
MORNING?
THE NATURE OF THIS CASE AND THE
POTENTIAL LEGAL RISKS FOR DONALD
TRUMP THIS TIME AROUND AND HOW
THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN HIS
LAST THREE INDICTMENTS BECAUSE
THESE ARE STATE CHARGES IN PART.
SARAH MARIE IS OUTSIDE THE
COURTHOUSE.
ALL THIS ACTIVITY THAT'S
HAPPENING INSIDE, DONALD TRUMP
IS POSTING BRAND-NEW ATTACKS
AGAINST SOMEONE WHO WAS ONE OF
THE WITNESSES.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> Reporter: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE
COURTROOM TODAY AND THE
COURTHOUSE TODAY IS A GRAND JURY
PRESENTATION AND THAT'S BEING
DONE UNDER A SEAL.
BUT THE GRAND JURY WILL BE
BEGINNING TO HEAR THIS CASE
AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
ALLIES TODAY AS YOU POINTED OUT.
WE CONFIRM THERE'S ONE WITNESS
WHO IS THERE TO TESTIFY TODAY.
OUR COLLEAGUES AT "THE ATLANTA
JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION" HAVE
SPOTTED TWO OTHER POTENTIAL
WITNESSES TESTIFYING TODAY AND
EVEN THOUGH DONALD TRUMP HAS
ASSISTED HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG
IN GEORGIA, HE HAS BEEN LASHING
OUT ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORM, INCLUDING AGAINST ONE
OF THE WITNESSES WHO IS EXPECTED
TO TESTIFY TOMORROW.
JEFF DUNCAN.
DONALD TRUMP TOOK TO HIS SOCIAL
MEDIA ACCOUNT TO SAY HE'S
READING REPORTS THAT THE FAILED
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA
WILL BE TESTIFYING BEFORE THE
FULTON COUNTY GRAND JURY.
TRUMP GOES ON TO SAY HE
SHOULDN'T AND THEN HE GOES ONTO
LAUNCH A NUMBER OF OTHER ATTACKS
AGAINST DUNCAN.
AGAIN, THIS GRAND JURY
PRESENTATION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE
UP TO TWO DAYS.
OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON
HIGH ALERT FOR ANY POTENTIAL
INDICTMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY
OR TOMORROW.
AND THIS IS A SPRAWLING CASE.
THIS HAS BEEN A 2 1/2 YEAR
INVESTIGATION THAT WAS SET OFF
WHEN DONALD TRUMP MADE THAT
PHONE CALL TO BRAD RAFFENSPERGER
AND PRESSED HIM TO FIND THE
VOTES FOR TRUMP TO WIN THE STATE
OF GEORGIA.
IT'S GONE ONTO INCLUDE THE FAKE
ELECTOR SCHEME, AN HARASSMENT
CAMPAIGN AGAINST ELECTION
WORKERS AS WELL AS A VOTING
SYSTEMS BREACH IN GEORGIA,
SARAH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
JOHN?
>> JUST A REMINDER, THESE WERE
THE ELECTION RESULTS IN GEORGIA
IN 2020.
THIS WAS THE MARGIN BETWEEN THE
TWO CANDIDATES, JOE BIDEN WON BY
11,779 VOTES.
THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT DONALD
TRUMP CALLED BRAD RAFFENSPERGER
AND SAID FIND ME MORE VOTES THAN
THAT.
THIS GRAND JURY, THESE HEARINGS
ARE TAKING PLACE IN FULTON
COUNTY.
THAT IS WHERE ATLANTA IS.
VERY BRIEFLY, SARAH MURRAY
MENTIONED COFFEE COUNTY DOWN IN
THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE.
YOU CAN SEE DONALD TRUMP WON
THAT WITH NEARLY 70% OF THE
VOTE.
THERE'S JUST OVER 15,000 VOTERS
IN THAT COUNTY, BUT IT'S IN THE
COUNTY, THERE APPEARS TO BE TEXT
MESSAGES AND EMAILS BETWEEN
TRUMP CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS AND
OFFICIALS IN THIS COUNTY TALKING
ABOUT SEIZING AND CRACKING OPEN
THE VOTING MACHINES THERE.
ALL RIGHT, WITH US NOW TO TALK
ABOUT ALL THIS IS CNN
CONTRIBUTOR JOHN DEAN.
FORMER NIXON WHITE HOUSE
COUNCIL.
IF WE CAN, I WANT TO START IN
FULTON COUNTY WHERE THE FORMER
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IS GOING TO
TESTIFY TOMORROW.
WE SAW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA FROM
DONALD TRUMP, I'M READING
REPORTS THAT FAILED FORMER
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA
DUNCAN WILL BE TESTIFYING BEFORE
THE GRAND JURY.
HE SHOULDN'T.
HE THEN GOES ON TO SAY, I BARELY
KNOW HIM, BUT HE WAS RIGHT FROM
THE BEGINNING OF THE WITCH-HUNT
A NASTY DISASTER LOOKING INTO
THE ELECTION FRAUD THAT TOOK
PLACE IN GEORGIA, ET CETERA, ET
CETERA.
YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL DEFENDANT
IN HERE TALKING ABOUT A WITNESS
TESTIFYING SAYING HE SHOULDN'T.
WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS
THERE, JOHN?
>> WELL, THAT'S NOT VERY SMART.
IT'S WITNESS TAMPERING PRETTY
BLATANTLY.
HE'S TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE TO
DUNCAN TO WITHHOLD OR WHATEVER.
TRUMP IS JUST -- HE JUST DOESN'T
SEEM TO BE ABLE TO HELP HIMSELF.
HE'S UNDER PRODUCTIVE ORDERS
ELSEWHERE IN NEW YORK AND NOW IN
D.C.
HE KNOWS BETTER.
BUT HE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
ABLE TO BEHAVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT A JUDGE
WILL DO IN GEORGIA WHEN THE
INDICTMENT COMES DOWN AND HE
FINDS HIMSELF IN FRONT OF A
JUDGE.
>> THIS IS HAPPENING IN GEORGIA
RIGHT NOW.
IN WASHINGTON, D.C., RIGHT HERE,
JOHN, THERE IS THE FEDERAL CASE
AGAINST DONALD TRUMP WHERE THE
JUDGE HAS WARNED DONALD TRUMP
ABOUT HIS SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES.
WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, WILL THESE
MESSAGES DIRECTED AT GEORGIA
WITNESSES HAVE MAYBE IN THE
FEDERAL CASE?
>> THEY'LL HAVE NO EFFECT
BECAUSE SHE -- THE D.C. JUDGE,
SHE HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GEORGIA.
BUT SHE -- IT WILL NOT GO
UNNOTICED BY HER.
HE HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT RESTRAINED
IN D.C.
APPARENTLY YESTERDAY THE ONLY
THING I HAPPENED TO NOTICE WAS
THAT HE REPOSTED A PICTURE AND A
CRITICAL REMARK OF THE D.C.
JUDGE AND WHETHER SHE'LL REACT
TO THAT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S NOT AS -- HE'S TRYING TO
PLAY A GAME AND SEE HOW CLOSE TO
THE LINE HE CAN GET AND HOW HE
CAN SEND HARASSMENT WITHOUT
ACTUALLY BE THE HARASSER, IF YOU
WILL.
>> SARAH MURRAY AND OTHERS ARE
REPORTING THAT IN COFFEY COUNTY
THAT THE DA HAS TEXT MESSAGES
AND EMAILS BETWEEN TRUMP
CAMPAIGN EMAILS AND OFFICIALS IN
THIS COUNTY TALKING ABOUT
GETTING ACCESS TO THE VOTING
MACHINE.
THESE ARE RECEIPTS.
WHAT ROLE COULD THESE TEXTS AND
EMAILS PLAY IN THIS TRIAL, JOHN?
>> DOCUMENTS ALWAYS PLAY A BIG
ROLE.
THEY ARE NOT IMPEACHABLE.
THEY SAY WHAT THEY SAY.
THEY ARE -- CAN'T BE CROSS
EXAMINED AND THEY HAVE A BIG
IMPACT ON JURIES.
WHEN THERE'S JURY POLLING LATER
OR JURIES DISCUSS WHAT'S
INFLUENCED, IT'S OFTEN THE
DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST
IMPACT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY
CAN -- REALLY NO CREDIBILITY
ISSUE WITH THE DOCUMENT.
A DOCUMENT IS A DOCUMENT.
SO THAT IS A POWERFUL PIECE OF
EVIDENCE.
>> ALL RIGHT, JOHN DEAN, ALWAYS
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP
TODAY.
>>> SECURITY IS TIGHT RIGHT NOW
AROUND THAT COURTHOUSE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
NEW CHARGES, NEW POTENTIAL
CHARGES LOOM FOR WEEKS CONCERNS
OVER SAFETY HAVE BEEN PARAMOUNT
AS THE DA HERSELF HAS BEEN THE
TARGET OF THREATS AND ATTACKS.
ATTACKS INCLUDING FROM DONALD
TRUMP WHO HAS CALLED WILLIS
RACIST AND CALLED HER
INVESTIGATION CORRUPT.
NICK VALENCIA IS TRACKING THIS
FOR US.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING THERE?
THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY AT THE
COURTHOUSE TODAY.
>> Reporter: THERE IS, ACTUALLY,
JUST IN THE LAST SEVERAL
MINUTES, THERE'S BEEN AN UPTICK
IN ACTIVITY.
THIS IS UNRELATED TO THE FORMER
PRESIDENT.
JUST IN THE LAST SEVERAL
MINUTES, ABOUT 20 TO 30
PROTESTORS SHOWED UP.
THERE'S ANOTHER SEPARATE ISSUE
GOING ON IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
PROTESTING THE BUILDING OF THAT
FACILITY HAVE USED THIS SCENE
AND THIS ATMOSPHERE OUTSIDE OF
THE COURTHOUSE TO BRING THEIR
OWN ISSUES.
THE MAIN HEADLINE, THOUGH, TODAY
AS IT RELATES TO THE FULTON
COUNTY INVESTIGATION AND THE
EFFORTS BY TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES
TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION IS
THAT THERE'S NO CREDIBLE
EVIDENCE.
METAL BARRICADES, A HEAVIER
PRESENCE OF SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT
SOURCES TELL US THERE'S A LOT OF
THINGS WE DON'T SEE HAPPENING.
WE'VE ASSUMED THAT MEANS SNIPERS
AND OTHER SECURITY MEASURES THAT
ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT
NOTHING HAPPENS.
THERE'S A LOT OF LEGITIMATE
CONCERN ABOUT THINGS GOING DOWN
HERE IF ONLY BECAUSE OF THE LAX
GUN LAWS, IF ONLY BECAUSE OF THE
LARGE CONTINGENT OF TRUMP
SUPPORTERS AND HE'S ENCOURAGED
THEM TO TAKE TO THE STREETS AND
USE REALLY EXPLOSIVE RHETORIC
CALLING THIS INVESTIGATION
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, CALLING
FANI WILLIS RACIST.
ALL OF THAT HAS LED TO CREDIBLE
THREATS AGAINST THE SAFETY OF
FANI WILLIS.
SHE'S HAD TO CHANGE HER SECURITY
DETAIL.
WE'RE SEEING THE SECURITY
DETAILS HERE.
THIS MAIN STREET IN FRONT THE
COURTHOUSE HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.
THERE'S STILL FOOT TRAFFIC IN
ANTICIPATION AS THE GRAND JURY
HEARS EFVIDENCE AND AGAINST TRUP
AND WE WAIT FOR THE INDICTMENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
THERE.