Ted in Sunnyvale California hey Ted thanks for watching us on YouTube you
want to comment about common carriers the FCC that sort of thing
for your arm I suspect I know why the FCC doesn't want to
go down the common carrier in a mighty for a much more pragmatic reasons arm
if in the early days in in in phone
technology the phone lines were
limited to supply 2300 kilohertz which is when the digitizer 256 kilobits per
second
right so everybody had the same level of service corporations KN
Taipei be accessed together with something called t1 line
which was intended to be 56 kilobits per second
primes 23 voice channels her that's how
corporations tie line from to avoid long distance phone chargers
even arm when you look at broadcast TV
not until HDTV came along standard equality with exactly the same so here's
the question
if the FCC was to to clear the Internet
providers a common carrier hmm call moved to find common in terms of quality
I think that's the next question that they would have to approach
and didn't want to go down that path well here's
here's were common the actually becomes defined
there's there would be two two thresholds to potential bottlenecks
arm the first would be and in the United States is the exclusive one
the first to be the capacity of that company to
provide data to you in a particular speed and
and and and you know your willingness to pay for it presumably
so he you know your your ISP may have
the ability to provide you with 10 10 minutes up in a hundred maps down
and or or you know a hundred and five hundred or whatever it may be
up and or they could negotiate with you as
as we do I mean if why at my home internet is considerably slower than my
internet here work because we pay for
much more bandwidth here here at the radio studio and so there's that
bottleneck
but the other bottleneck which exists in South Korea and most European countries
are would be if
you know that now that bottleneck could be and in
most cases would be a mechanical bottleneck basically the capacity of the
equipment to handle
data %uh the a secondary by like would be
which internet service provider you choose
in France for example where you can for thirty five dollars a month
yet are you know for 100 met the
high-speed Internet and a
plus your telephone service and free calls to tie things 29 countries
plus a hundred and not plus channels of cable television
all for thirty five dollars a month the reason for that is because
whoever brings the wire into your house or the fiber into your house
they charge a certain amount for that make a small profit on their
so they charge like levin dollars a month to bring that into your house
and then you go out you shop for an Internet service provider for phone
company in for cable TV company
and you have you know dozens of them
and in the case for Internet service providers more than a hundred other
competing with each other in France
and South Korea in Japan I believe this is a case in Japan
arm you have a bunch of different companies competing
with you know with each other to provide that to you and different ones will have
different capacities in terms of their ability to deliver to in through a back
bone
and to and through your physical internet service provider in your
physical area
so for example when I lived in vermont and we had a law like this that had to
do with telephone
carriers Verizon found itself
having to rent its telephone lines to sovereign debt which was the
this you know vermont used to be a sovereign nation before joining the
country's everybody likes to use the word sovereignty up there
so is the sovereign at the sovereign for might net and
server net dot com I think they're still in business and
they'd for twenty-five dollars money you know Verizon was charging some like
thirty dollars a month for
presidential term telephone service plus this post that plus this plus that plus
if you wanted
somebody come on see you at your house you to make a point three years in
advance and
sovereign it said we're just gonna serve a smaller in vermont
and the service guy will live six blocks down our down the road from you
and as twenty-five dollars month flat rate and we were Cybernet
customers for a long time and in fact all the lines coming in for our callers
on the show when we used to do our show either
are living room in our house which is where we started this program ten years
ago
we're on sa Burnett and if I could you know if I had a problem
with anything other than the copper the sovereign etc I any hands-on as the
copper that was inside my house
the sovereign a guide literally live two blocks away from me he would walk over
to our house he helped us wire
our first on a what's called a hybrid it's a system that allows me to book
callers on the air
and I so am I making sense
here you are and i remember i lived in in NY for short and british telecom have
to do the same thing they had to
are basically least two wires to local providers
farm based on the customer's preference
pregnant right for then they would provide the last the last mile for
right arm actually I think that would work here in the US the trying to change
this
huge industry into with that level
are from what I used to be
that's how I used to be I mean I i back in the eighties I used to run forms and
copy serve in fact I made a pretty good living doing it
and along with a bunch of other people worked with me
who are still working with Nigel and soon a bunch of other people arm
as several of them are still working when and
a basically you you you access copy serve over your telephone line it was
dialup serbs
and you could choose between copy serve or a well
as your internet service provider basically
an AOL you know carpet bombed the World with free desks and everybody joined AOL
and copy serve got acquired by
HR block which decided to simply suck them dry and take all their profits
and compass or when our business in a while still around
you're my only my only issue though is farm
I don't think the FEC or even congress is going to be able to turn the clock
back and go back to
those type of arrangement I agree kindest that's that's why I am
that's why I'm saying today this is that's why saying this is the biggest
news story of the day
because at the SEC is not going to change because their chairman Tom
wheeler
in ninety million dollars is lobbyist first for the telephone companies and
then for the internet company's
and he's now that the Fox in charge the chicken coop
interchangeable here here's one other question
suppose on yeah I don't know if this can be done with the
conquer rules but suppose 30
the last-mile connections is negotiable between the
on I between the the service provider with the Comcast for time warner whoever
is in the customer
for what in their network they have to take a hands-off
arm attitude well that so that might
my access to Kennedy in my access to net for pooping
crackers clamp well then you're talking and neutrality I mean that's basically
net neutrality
is right now there's claiming the ability to inspect what's coming
in this is they're making a deal with Netflix eventually they're gonna
come to you and me and say we want to also be able to inspect what's going
outage and I'm confident that's the case because I know
right now I use a Virtual Private Network they cut my speed
to gain a quartet out Armada time thank you for the call
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and that's why I think that is going to happen you're gonna see tiered pricing
for Internet access so you are basic access I want streaming video or you
want the porn channel I want the news channel
that at the fixed price please