YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE’RE ABOUT 43 SECONDS AWAY. OKAY. THAT.
INDICTED BY A FEDERAL GRAND
JURY FOR THE WAY HE HANDLED
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AFTER HE
WAS PRESIDENT. TODAY DONALD
TRUMP WAS ARRAIGNED IN A
FLORIDA IN A MIAMI COURTROOM.
WE SHOULD SAY. JOHN TAYLOR
JOINS US NOW. HE’S THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE POLITICAL SCIENCE AND
GEOGRAPHY DEPARTMENT AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, SAN
ANTONIO. JOHN, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US TODAY. HAVE WE EVER
SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS OR
ANYTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO
WHAT WE SAW TODAY?
FOR PRESIDENT? NO, I MEAN, THE
CLOSEST WOULD HAVE BEEN RICHARD
NIXON AND NIXON AND WATERGATE
WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN
MINUTES.
>> SO THERE THERE IS NO
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT FOR US TO
REALLY LEAN ON HERE. THAT KIND
OF SPELLS OUT, AT YOU KNOW,
A ROCKY ROAD MAP OF WHAT COULD
COME NEXT.
>> BACKING FOR PRESIDENT,
FORMER PRESIDENT. THIS IS JUST
COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR OUR
EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW, WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE ASKING
WHAT WILL TRUMP GETS CONVICTED?
WE DON’T NEED TO GOES TO
PRISON. CAN BE READY TO
PRESENT. THE ANSWER IS YES.
WHY THE CONSTITUTION DOESN’T
SPEAK TO IT. HE’S TALKED ABOUT
BEING 35 AND OLDER. NOW THERE
MIGHT BE THE QUESTION THE 14TH
AMENDMENT AND INSURRECTION, BUT
THAT WOULD REQUIRE JACKSON.
THAT’S GOING AFTER TRUMP FOR
JANUARY 6.
>> YEAH, WHICH HE HAD, WHICH I
MEAN, I THINK THAT
INVESTIGATION IS STILL ONGOING.
CORRECT? WRIGHT IS STILL
ONGOING. AND TO BE HONEST, WHEN
WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. SEE HOW
IT PLAYS OUT WILL WANT SMITH IN
DIETS OR DOJ INDICT. SO.
>> SHORT FOR THAT IS HE WHAT
I MEAN?
>> I’M NOT I GUESS IN A WAY.
I’M NOT SURPRISED THAT HE
CONTINUES TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
IS HE RUNNING FOR HIS FREEDOM
BASICALLY HERE? I MEAN, IS HE
RUNNING THAT HOPING THAT IF YOU
GET SELECTED, ALL THIS WILL
GO AWAY.
>> AND YOU’RE GOOD LUCK WITH
THAT. I I THINK THAT THERE IS A
POINT TO BE MADE THAT HE DID
DECIDE TO RUN AND AND AND
DECIDED TO WRITE HER OWN THE
SITE TO ANNOUNCE HE WAS RUNNING
EARLY, KNOWING FULL WELL, HE
WAS GOING TO BE FACING THE
PROSPECT OF WHAT WE SAW TODAY.
NOW, IS HE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO RUN? IT’S GOING TO NEW
FUNDRAISE. ABSOLUTELY. HE SEES
NO REASON NOT TO BACK TONIGHT
AND ABOUT WAS WHAT 25 MINUTES
FROM NOW. HE’S GOING TO GIVE A
SPEECH FROM HIS PLACE IN
NEW JERSEY WILL LIKELY COME UP
VERY FIERY AND, YOU KNOW,
ATTACKING IN TALKING ABOUT
ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT SHUN
OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, ALL
THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS A GUY
THAT’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT,
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
>> AND I THINK THAT MAY
SURPRISE SOME PEOPLE. YOU KNOW,
THERE’S LIKE YOU SAID THERE IS
NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT HE
CANNOT CONTINUE TO RUN SIMILAR
SITUATION TODAY AS TO WHEN HE
WAS INDICTED, A FUNDRAISER JUST
HOURS AFTER THAT. SO HE CAN
CONTINUE TO ME. HE CAN CONTINUE
TO RUN EVEN POTENTIALLY TAKE
OFFICE IF HE WERE TO WIN FACING
THESE LEGAL CHALLENGES. IS THAT
RIGHT IN THERE? THEY WERE IN
REALLY
UNCHARTED TERRITORY.
>> NOW WE HAVE A PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT-ELECT WAS SITTING IN
A CLUB AT FEDERAL PRISON.
>> BASICALLY THE QUESTION AND
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HE BE ABLE
TO EXECUTE THE OFFICE DANCER?
YES, HE’D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
EXECUTE HIS DUTIES, WHICH
MEANS.
>> MIGHT HAVE TO SET ASIDE A
PRISON SENTENCE ON TO BECOME
PRESIDENT AND THE END OF THE
PRESIDENT. AND THE QUESTION IS
OKAY AND SO THE ANSWER IS
PROBABLY NOT ORCHARD, PROBABLY
REJECT THAT. CONGRESS SHOULD
PROBABLY CHECK. IT WILL BE BACK
TO FULL ATTENTION. THE 3RD
IMPEACHMENT OF TRUMP.
>> WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM
REPUBLICAN REACTIONS? I YOU
KNOW, TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ
CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF DONALD
TRUMP. THE GOVERNOR HAS COME
OUT IN SUPPORT OF DONALD TRUMP.
BUT IN RECENT DAYS WE HAVE SEEN
SOME OF HIS OPPONENTS KIND OF
ON THE ATTACK AGAINST TRUMP AND
WHAT THEY’VE SEEN IN SOME OF
THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN
AN ABOUT FACE REALLY, FOR
PEOPLE LIKE NIKKI HALEY, NOT SO
MUCH FOR SOMEBODY LIKE CHRIS
CHRISTIE OR TIM SCOTT.
>> ALRIGHT, IT’S INTERESTING
TO SEE HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME
REPUBLICANS AND EVEN IN THE
U.S. SENATE, YOU’VE GOT SENATE
MEMBERS LEADERSHIP IN THE
SENATE, MITCH MCCONNELL, WORD.
SHE’S KIND OF FASCINATING THAT
THAT THE KAYLEE IS AN EXAMPLE.
WORDS LIKE WAIT A MINUTE.
I SAID THESE THINGS ON SATURDAY
OR SUNDAY AND HEARING ABOUT IT
NOW. NOW ACTUALLY READING THE
DOCUMENTS DIAMOND, SHE’S LIVE
WITH US IN NASH CHARITY ISSUE.
THIS IS MUCH MORE SERIOUS AND
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HOLD OFF
BEFORE WE SEE ANY.
>> MEANWHILE, WE HAVEN’T HEARD
ANYTHING FROM THE CURRENT
PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
REACTING TO THIS INDICTMENT.
AN ARRAIGNMENT. WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF THAT?
>> BURDEN ON HIS PART. I THINK
IT’S BEST FOR HIM NOT TO
SAY ANYTHING.
>> I’M NOT RIGHT YOU KNOW, HE’S
GOING TO LEAD THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT AND ALL THIS HEAT IS
I THINK VERY SMART.
>> NOT TO INVOLVE THEMSELVES.
NOW THAT SAID THIS IS NOT LIKE
IT AND SAY HE’S NOT IN THE SAME
THING. BUT AS IT STANDS NOW, I
THINK IT’S BEST NOT TO SAY A
WORD.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS
THAT ARE OUT THERE, JOHN, THAT
THAT BIDEN HAD SOMETHING TO DO
WITH IT, THAT HE PUT HIS THUMB
ON THE WEIGHT ON THE SCALE HERE
ASKED TRUMP TO BE TARGETED.
>> GOOD LUCK WITH THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATING THIS FOR A WHILE.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JOE
BIDEN CAN SOMEHOW SAY, OH, CALL
OF YOU. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
SAY THEY’RE GOING. I WANT YOU
TO GO AFTER TRUMP BUT MORE THAT
WAY THE LONG-TERM PROCESSES,
ALL THAT. AND THAT’S A GEISHA.
NONE. INVEST IN COMING UP WITH
WHAT HENSCHEL CHARGES MOINES
BEFORE A GRAND JURY WAS IN
FLORIDA. THE MIAMI SOMETHING
THAT BIDEN ANYTHING TO DO WITH
AND WILL BE INTERESTING TO
THINK. AND TO NOTE HERE THAT
ONCE WE GET TO A JURY TRIAL,
DON’T FORGET.
WHY ARE SOME OF THE D A NANA
MYSTERY? IT’S ALWAYS POSSIBLE
EVEN AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL OF
THIS, THERE COULD BE SOME
JUROR. REMEMBER THE SIDES THAT
THE WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE DOESN’T
SUPPORT CONVICTION OF TRUMP
AIR. WE BE.
>> RIGHT. IT WAS IT WAS
ACTUALLY A GRAND JURY THAT
INDICTED HIM WHICH WAS NOT
CORRECT APARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
IT WAS NOT A JUDGE. IT WAS A
GRAND JURY.
>> IS IT TOO EARLY TO MAKE
ANYTHING OF WHAT YOU THINK THIS
DOES TO SUPPORT OF THE FORMER
PRESIDENT? YOU KNOW, I’M
LOOKING OUTSIDE THAT COURTROOM
TODAY. THERE WAS A CROWD
CERTAINLY OUT THERE BOTH, YOU
KNOW, IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WAS
HAPPENING BOTH AGAINST WHAT WAS
HAPPENING. THE ARRAIGNMENT.
BUT IT WASN’T QUITE AS BIG AS
SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT.
NOT NOT QUITE PROUD THAT I
THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT
HAVE EXPECTED.
>> RIGHT. AND I THINK THERE’S
MAYBE ONE BIG REASON WHY PEOPLE
REMEMBER JANUARY 6 AND NOW 1000
PLUS CONVICTIONS. THEY DON’T
WANT TO GET ALL THE WORK THAT
MAY SHOW UP. THEY MAY PROTEST.
THAT’S WHY I DON’T THINK WE SAW
MUCH IN THE WAY OF VIOLENCE
AND CONFRONTATION THAT SAD TO
SAY SOMETHING ABOUT TRUMP AND
SUPPORT. THE ANSWER IS YES.
I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO SEE
TRUMP SUPPORTERS RALLY AROUND
AROUND FOR FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP. I DON’T KNOW IF IT ENDS
UP SECOND THE AIR OUT OF ROOM
FOR THE OTHER CANDIDATES.
I THINK TRUMP THIS THING THAT
THAT THE CUBAN RESTAURANT AFTER
HE LEFT THE COURTHOUSE WAS
INDICATIVE OF A GUY WHO SAY,
LOOK, I’M STILL RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AND YOU GUYS GET
KILLED.
JOHN TAYLOR CHAIRMAN OF THE
POLITICAL SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT
UTSA. ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR