At the end of the day, I feel like we spent enough time with
each other to get to know whether or not we needed to
continue or discontinue.
What I saw in the 90 days that we were exclusive was enough for
me to say I need to do something different.
This is not the direction I want a relationship to go.
We were having a lot of communication struggles, the
continuous unnecessary insertion of the defense of joy, joy, joy,
joy.
And I think joy is lovely.
I don't have anything against her, not jealous of her in in
any way, shape, form or fashion.
It just again was what is that about?
Like I don't understand.
He doesn't know her from a can of paint as far as I know.
And I think, honestly, the straw that broke the camel's back when
I felt like he threw black under the bus at our cash trip.
I was like, if you'll do that to your friend of 10 years, who am
I?
You've only known me for 120 days.
That was like, aside from that, you show was being
opportunistic.
He was constantly going to production, trying to pitch his
brand.
You are here because you are wanting to get to genuinely know
me.
Why do you care about pitching your brand?
Did did you feel like Usha was using you?
Absolutely.
How do you feel about that Usha Winter saying you use her to get
on the show to promote yourself?
She's entitled to feel how she feels, bro.
Did you not tell one of our producers that you felt like I
was a good opportunity?
I was very quiet when you Did you not tell one of the
producers that you felt like I was a good opportunity?
A wife?
No, that wasn't what you said.
I feel like winter is a good opportunity.
Carlos.
Carlos, do me a favor.
See how quiet and peaceful I was while she was talking.
Feel free.
Continue.
You should.
You're not that deep.
Go right ahead.
Well let me let me get a shout.
He's as deep as a puddle.
I know.
Winter.
Let me let me hear from Yusha though child.
Yeah he he's not going to be disrespectful towards each
other.
She's going to be respectful to don't tell me what I am and am
not going to do respectful to each other.
You can continue.
Yeah.
You shouldn't have to.
She should have sat over here at the end of the day black and
Cheryl know me.
I wear my clothes all the time.
One of the first things that I'm sorry.
Yusha Winter.
Anella Winter.
No, I'm hushing.
I'm finished.
Go ahead, honey.
Jamie did it.
The first show we did.
Jamie, he said, oh, you got on your brand.
And he pulled my jacket open.
I saw that as a sign of love.
Like, yo, it's a black man.
He got his own brand.
Is it true that you told the producer that winter is a good
opportunity?
I was talking about for a wife and those are things.
But when you told the producer that, did you add after
opportunity the the word specifically?
No, you did not.
I actually heard you say this.
You heard him say it.
I actually heard him say it.
He doesn't he say this behind your back.
He was talking behind my back to one of our producers and he said
winter is a great opportunity.
I saw her as a great opportunity for a wife.
Everybody knows, including my friends know that I want to be
married again.
I want a wife.
That's my truth and so if that could have worked out that would
have been a victory.
If that don't work out we good.
Why does a brand even come into the forefront of the mind when
I'm here for you and I'm here to to get to know you.
Do you know what I'm saying If if the.
If the attention is but I didn't have to mention come see about
my brand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wear my brand.
No, no, no.
I also think it's the I think.
I think that the choice of the words opportunity.
Did he ever have these conversations with you
privately.
Yes.
I was told by producers that he reached out to them about
promoting his brand.
He said winter I didn't want to come to you about this but
apparently I have to go through you to get my brand promoted.
You were very aggressive when they wouldn't allow you to put
your socks in the cast gift boxes.
When we were going in the cash strip, literally he had to sit
there and take a namaste moment because he was so irritated that
they said, hey, hey, hey, we can't film that.
We haven't introduced that yet.
That was another moment for me where I'm like, why are you
here?
It's not just to get to know me, but he's been trying to pop off
his platform and whatever he's trying to promote.
And so, yeah, it made sense to him.
It was a great opportunity.
So let's not sit here and pretend like you weren't trying
to promote your brand on the side and figure out any sort of
angle you could to put yourself on Front St.
So the Duncans, you obviously introduce Usha to Winter.
Is what Winter is saying a part of the character you know you
should to have.
Ever since I've known Yusha, he's been a hustler.
He's been like, all right, if I can find the opportunity to
promote my brand or to to to he has a child to to build his his
his business.
That's what he does.
When I when we hooked him up, that's not what I was thinking.
I wasn't thinking, oh, he's about to use Winter to do.
That's not what I was thinking.
Do you think he used Winter?
He was Terrell.
Do you think you should use Winter?