A LIBERAL ECONOMIST SHAPING RACIAL JUSTICE POLICY FOR 2020
DEMES IS RIGHT ON "THE BEAT."
WE BEGIN WITH THE ALARM BELLS
RINGING ALL OVER WASHINGTON,
SIGNS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
RATTLED AND SOME REPUBLICANS ON
EDGE.
EDGE. "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING
FORMER TRUMP OFFICIALS WORRIED
ABOUT HIS BEHAVIOR, RISING
PRESSURE ON TRUMP CLEARLY WITH
THE ECONOMY AND HIS JITTERS OVER
RE-ELECTION.
RE-ELECTION. >> ANY JEWISH PEOPLE THAT VOTE
FOR A DEMOCRAT I THINK IT SHOWS
EITHER A TOTAL LACK OF KNOWLEDGE
OR GREAT DISLOYALTY.
>> ISN’T THAT ANTI-SEMITIC?
>> IT’S ONLY ANTI-SEMITIC IN
YOUR HEAD.
YOUR HEAD. >> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT INDEXING.
> I’M NOT LOOKING TO DO
INDEXING.
INDEXING. > I’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT
PAYROLL TAXES.
PAYROLL TAXES. >> WE DON’T NEED IT.
>> BRING UP BACKGROUND CHECKS
LIKE WE’VE NEVER HAD BEFORE.
>> WE HAVE VERY, VERY STRONG
BACKGROUND CHECKS RIGHT NOW.
>> THE PRIME MINISTER’S
STATEMENT THAT IT WAS ABSURD, IT
WAS AN ABSURD IDEA, WAS NASTY.
YOU DON’T TALK TO THE UNITED
STATES THAT WAY.
AT LEAST TO ME.
EXCUSE ME, SOMEBODY HAD TO DO
IT.
IT. I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.
>> TRUMPOLOGISTS SAY THIS IS ALL
GETTING WORSE THAT IS IT LOOKS
WACKY BECAUSE IT IS INCREASINGLY
WACKY.
WACKY. THAT’S NOT JUST CRITICS BUT HIS
OWN PEOPLE.
OWN PEOPLE. FEWER AIDES AROUND HIM WILLING
OR ABLE TO CHALLENGE HIM MUCH
LESS RESTAIN THIS LESS IMPULSIVE
INSTINCTS.
INSTINCTS. WHICH MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY SOME
OTHER CONSERVATIVES ARE STEPPING
UP, TALK OF AN ANTI-TRUMP
COALITION ON THE RIGHT, LOOK
OVER AT THE FAR RIGHT WHERE
FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN
JOE WALSH, A TEA PARTY
CONSERVATIVE IS TESTING THE
WATERS FOR HIS OWN PRIMARY
CHALLENGE TO TRUMP WHICH COULD
BE DIFFERENT THAN PRODUCT RATS
SAY MARK SANFORD OR BILL WELD
WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING BECAUSE YOU
HAVE A TOUGH-MINDED RIGHT WING
RADIO HOST TALKING ABOUT TAKING
ON TRUMP.
ON TRUMP. THE POLITICAL QUELL IS NOT
WHETHER HE WOULD WIN THE PRIMARY
AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT OR
BECOME PRESIDENT HIMSELF.
THE QUESTION IS NARROWER.
COKNOCK HALF A POINT OR A POINT
OFF DONALD TRUMP’S SUPPORT?
CONSIDER DONALD TRUMP COULDN’T
SPARE A SINGLE POINT IN HIS
SUPER NER NARROW PATH TO THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. TAKE A LISTEN TO BE MR. WALSH
TODAY.
TODAY. >> TRUMP’S A BULLY.
AND HE’S A COWARD.
AND THE ONLY WAY YOU BEAT A
BULLY AND YOU BEAT A COWARD IS
TO EXPOSE THEM.
IS TO PUNCH THEM.
THE ONLY WAY YOU PRIMARY DONALD
TRUMP AND BEAT HIM IS TO EXPOSE
HIM FOR THE CON MAN HE IS.
I’D PUNCH HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT LOOK, IT
SEEMS LIKE TRUMP GETS AWAY WITH
EVERYTHING AND HIS SIDE FORGIVES
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. BUT MAYBE IT WOULD ADD UP.
TRUMP WAS PUNCHED BY MICHAEL
COHEN.
COHEN. HE’S BEING PUNCHED THIS WEEK
ANTHONY SCARE MEW CHILL.
HE’S BEEN GETTING PUNCHED FROM
BILL WELD BUT MANY REPUBLICANS
DISMISS HIM AS A MASSACHUSETTS
MODERATE TONIGHT YOU HAVE TEA
PARTIYER JOE WALSH COMING AT
TRUMP FROM THE FAR RIGHT AND
MAYBE ALL THE PUNCHES DO ADD UP.
CONSIDER ACCOUNT NEW NUMBERS IN
AN A.P. REPORT THAT NOTES 62% OF
AMERICANS DISAPPROVE HOW TRUMP
HANDLES HIS JOB AND THAT TRUMP
IS, LET THIS SINK IN, "THE ONLY
PRESIDENT WHOSE RATING HAS NEVER
BEEN ABOVE 50% IN THE HISTORY OF
POLLING."
POLLING." THAT’S NOT GOOD.
THE A.P. ALSO NOTES A DROP DOWN
TO SEVEN IN TEN REPUBLICANS
APPROVING OF HIS HANNING OF GUN
CONTROL POLICY, HIS LOWEST
RATINGS ON THAT ISSUE FROM
REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. SO EVEN ON GUNS, TRUMP IS LOSING
THREE OUT OF TEN OF THEM.
HIS NEWLY VOCAL CRITICS AND
OPPONENTS SEEM TO HAVE SOMETHING
IN COMMON.
IN COMMON. THEY APPEAR TO BE PLANNING
WHATEVER YOU THINK OF THEIR
AUTHENTICITY, THEY APPEAR TO BE
PLANNING FOR A WORLD WHERE
DONALD TRUMP LOSES.
THEY COULD BE WRONG.
IT’S HARD TO BEAT AN INCUMBENT
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. THAT’S JUST A HISTORICAL TREND.
BUT IT’S INTERESTING BECAUSE
THESE NERVES AND THE WORRIES ARE
NOT JUST COMING FROM FRUMP
INSIDERS.
INSIDERS. IT’S SPILLING OUT TO SOME OF HIS
ENABLERS AND SOME OF THE MOST
POWERFUL PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON
LIKE MITCH McCONNELL.
THE CONTEXT IS YOU HAVE 22
REPUBLICAN SEATS UP IN 2020
DEMOCRATS NEED THREE OR FOUR TO
WIN BACK THE SENATE WHICH COULD
EXPLAIN SOMETHING YOU DON’T SEE
EVERY DAY, MITCH McCONNELL OUT
HERE ON THIS HOT SUMMER WEEK
WITH AN OP-ED ON ITS FACE FIGHTS
TO DEFENDS THE RIGHTS OF THE
MINORITY IN THE SENATE WHICH
MEANS ADVOCATING FOR A SENATE
TACTIC CURRENTLY EXERCISED BY
DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS. REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE SENATE.
WHY IS HE WRITING’SCIES ABOUT
THIS TOOL THAT HIS PARTY DOESN’T
NEED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY’RE
IN CHARGE?
IN CHARGE? THAT THE SENATORS AND THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEED, THE
FILIBUSTER?
FILIBUSTER? MAYBE HE HAS SOMETHING IN COMMON
WITH THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHETHER
YOU THINK THEY’RE IN IT FOR
THEMSELVES OR NOT.
MAYBE MITCH McCONNELL IS WORRIED
THIS IS A TOOL REPUBLICANS WILL
NEED SOON IF THEY FACE A ROUT IN
2020.
2020. I’M JOINED BY "NEW YORK TIMES"
COLUMNIST MICHELLE GOLDBERG,
WENDY TOER AND AMY ALLISON,
PRESIDENT OF THE GROUP DEMOCRACY
IN COLOR AND THE FOUNDER OF SHE
THE PEOPLE.
THE PEOPLE. NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY.
>> HEY, ARI.
>> JUANITA, DO YOU SENSE A
PATTERN?
PATTERN? >> I MEAN YES.
I THINK MEMBERS OF THE GOP SEE A
WEAKNESS HERE, ESPECIALLY AS THE
CAN BES EVOLVE RELATED TO THE
ECONOMY AND THE FACT THAT ALMOST
50% OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS FROM
2016 WOULD BLAME TRUMP FOR THAT.
NOT ONLY IS TRUMP REACTING BUT I
THINK THAT’S WHERE THESE THREATS
TO HIS BEING PRIMARIED COME
FROM.
FROM. YOU HAVE SCARAMUCCI LOOKING TO
SAVE OFF 5%, 6% OF THE VOTE AND
WALSH HERE ALSO LOOKING TO RUN A
PRIMARY WHERE HE’S MAKING A PLAY
TO HOLD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE,
SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT SEEN DONE
WELL FROM THE GOP AT ALL.
SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW VOTERS WHO CAN’T STOMACH
SUPPORTING TRUMP EVEN THOUGH THE
REPUBLICANS REACT TO THAT AS AN
ALTERNATIVE.
ALTERNATIVE. >> I DON’T THINK THESE
DEFECTIONS ARE GOING TO WEAKEN
TRUMP SO MUCH AS I THINK THESE
ARE A SIGN OF TRUMP’S GROWING
WEAKNESS.
WEAKNESS. RIGHT?
RIGHT? THEY EITHER SORT OF SMELL BLOOD
IN THE WATER OR AREN’T WILLING
TO GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP.
IT HAS A LOT TO DO, IT’S HARD
FOR ME TO SAY WHETHER TRUMP HAS
BECOME MORE ERRATIC OR MORE
UNHINGED BECAUSE IT’S NOT LIKE
HE WAS EVER PARTICULARLY HINGED
TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT?
HE’S NEVER.
HE’S NEVER. >> JUANITA, YOU AGREE WITH
MICHELLE HE’S BEEN STEADILY
UNHINGED.
UNHINGED. >> IT’S BEEN PRETTY STEADY SINCE
HE DESCENDED THAT GOLDEN
ESCALATOR.
ESCALATOR. >> HE’S ALWAYS BEEN ERRATIC AND
INEPT.
INEPT. HE’S ALWAYS BEEN GIVEN TO CRAZY
CONSPIRACY THEORIES BE AN WILD
HYPERBOLE AND RACIAL INSULTS.
I THINK MAYBE IT COULD BE
GETTING WORSE AND IT COULD BE
BEING THROWN INTO HIGHER RELIEF
AS HIS POLL NUMBERS GO DOWN, AS
THE ECONOMY WEAKENS AND AS
MULTIFAIRIOUS FOREIGN POLICY
KRYSS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE
BACKGROUND HAVE ARE COMING TO
FRUITION ALL AT ONCE SO THAT YOU
CAN SEE THE CHAOTIC CONSEQUENCES
OF LACK OF AMERICAN LEADERSHIP
ALL OVER THE PLACE.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE.
AMY, THERE’S ALSO THE ISSUE OF
THE FIGHTS THAT HE PICKS.
THE BEEF WITH THE DANISH PRIME
MINISTER.
MINISTER. AGAIN, I TAKE JUANITA’S POINT.
THERE’S ALWAYS BEEN REALLY PETTY
STUPID FIGHTS FOR NO REASON.
YET, SOME OF THEM WERE WITH
DOMESTIC POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND
THE PRESS WHICH HAS SOME YOU
KNOW SOME VIBES THAT ARE SIMILAR
TO OTHER POLITICAL TRICKS.
WHEN YOU’RE BEEFING WITH THESE
FOREIGN LEADERS THEY HAVE THEIR
OWN POWER BASE AND THEIR OWN
CONSTITUENTS.
CONSTITUENTS. IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY END WELL
HE WAS SORT OF PUNKED BY
DENMARK.
DENMARK. WE WERE SPEAKING JUST ON THE
SHOW WITH BARBARA REZ WHO USED
TO WORK WITH HIM ABOUT THIS.
I ASKED HER WHY HE’S SO
SENSITIVE ON THESE MATTERS.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> IS HE A SNOWFLAKING?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. HE DOES THE WORST THINGS AND
THEN WHEN SOMEBODY JUST DOES A
LITTLE THING, HOW DARE THEY?
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES
THEY’RE INSULTING.
THEY’RE INSULTING. IT’S RIDICULOUS.
IT’S RIDICULOUS. HE WASN’T THAT BAD THEN.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STARTED TO
THINK HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A
JOKE BUT LATER ON, "THE
APPRENTICE," THAT TO ME AND MANY
PEOPLE WAS HE’S LIKE A CARTOON
AT THAT POINT.
>> AMY?
>> AMY? >> YEAH, WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT
IS A SERIES OF ATTEMPTS BY TRUMP
KIND OF LIKE TEST BALLOONS TO
SEE WHAT’S GOING TO MOVE HIS
APPROVAL NUMBERS.
APPROVAL NUMBERS. REMEMBER, THIS IS A GUY MORE
THAN FROM BUSINESS, HE’S FROM
ENTERTAINMENT AND TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAVE HIMSELF.
ALL THOSE OTHER THE TALK ABOUT
CUTTING PAYROLL TAXES WHICH HE
RESCINDED AND ATTACKING OF A
WOMAN LEADER OF A EUROPEAN
COUNTRY WHICH YOU KNOW, HE’S
NOT -- HE’S BEING OUT-FOXED AND
OUTCLASSED RIGHT AND LEFT.
THE ONLY PLAYBOOK THAT REALLY
WORKS WITH HIS BASE IS RACISM
AND SEXISM.
AND SEXISM. WE’RE GOING TO SEE HIM COME BACK
TO THAT WILL AGAIN AND AGAIN IN
HIS ATTACKS.
HIS ATTACKS. IT’S AN ORGANIZING COORDINATING
PRINCIPLE IN HIS CAMPAIGN.
AND I THINK THE GOP AND JOE
WALSH TRYING TO RUN FROM THE
RIGHT YOU KNOW, HAVE AT IT.
IT’S A DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS
IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO
THINGS.
THINGS. IT DEMONSTRATES TRUMP’S
WEAKNESS.
WEAKNESS. BUT I’M REALLY INTERESTED IN
WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING, HOW
THEY RESPOND.
THEY RESPOND. WE CAN BE WHIPLASHED AND TRY TO
FOLLOW THE NONLOGIC OF AN
INCREASINGLY BIZARRE BEHAVIOR OF
A GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR WE
CAN ORGANIZE OUR OWN TROOPS AND
OUR OWN FORCES WITH A CLEAR
MESSAGE.
MESSAGE. I THINK I’M LOOKING AT THE
DEMOCRATS AND I’M LOOKING AT THE
ORGANIZERS ON THE GROUND AND
SAYING HOW ARE THEY TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE MOMENT, THE
FACT THAT THERE’S SO MUCH CHAOS
COMING FRA THE WHITE HOUSE AND
NO ONE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO QUELL
IT.
IT. HE’S ALSO ENJOYED GREAT BENEFIT
FROM HAVING ALMOST UNIVERSAL
BLOCKING ABPROTECTION ON THE
PART OF THE GOP.
AND I’M REALLY LOOKING AT THE
DEMOCRATS TO HOLD NOT ONLY TRUMP
BUT ALL THE REST OF THE
REPUBLICANS ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOU
KNOW, THE CRIMES AND THE
ACTIVITIES AND THE MISBEHAVIORS
THAT THEY HAVE PROTECTED.
>> YEAH, YOU MENTIONED ALSO THE
SEXISM AND RACISM THAT HE
REACHES TOWARDS.
REACHES TOWARDS. JUANITA, THE FIGHTS, HE SORT OF
IMPROVISES HIS WAY IN.
I’M NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR HE WAS
WITH THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP OF
DENMARK WHEN HE WAS HUNTING FOR
GREENLAND.
GREENLAND. >> FOREIGN RELATIONS IN GENERAL,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> BUT THEN HE FIGURES OUT HO,
OH, HE’S DEALING WITH A FEMALE
HEAD OF STATE A POWERFUL WOMAN
AND HE DOES WHAT HE’S DONE AT
OTHER TIMES.
OTHER TIMES. WE PUT THIS TOGETHER.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> THE PRIME MINISTER’S
STATEMENT THAT IT WAS ABSURD
THAT IT WAS AN ABSURD IDEA WAS
NASTY.
NASTY. >> I THINK SHE’S A DISGRACE.
SHE’S A NASTY VIN TICKTIVE
HORRIBLE.
HORRIBLE. >> MOVE TO CANADA IF YOU GOT
ELECTED.
ELECTED. >> I DIDN’T KNOW SHE WAS NASTY.
>> WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS
REPLENISH.
REPLENISH. >> SUCH A NASTY WOMAN.
>> JUANITA?
>> JUANITA? >> I MEAN IT’S THE PLAYBOOK,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? HE’S PULLING OUT ALL OF HIS
SEXISM AND PUTTING IT ON FULL
DISPLAY FOR HIS BASE TO BE
REACTING TO, BUT HERE’S THE
THING.
THING. WHILE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
GREENLAND, WHILE WE’RE TALKING
ABOUT HIM BEING THE CHOSEN ONE,
WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE
THINGS HAPPENING IN THE NEWS
CYCLE AND PACKETING OUR ECONOMY
LIKE THE FACT THAT THE U.S.
DEFICIT IS SOARING BECAUSE OF
HIS DEAL.
HIS DEAL. SO YOU HAVE COAL MINERS WHO
VOTED FOR HIM IN ’16 LOOKING
LIKE THIS IS ANOTHER BROKEN
PROMISE.
PROMISE. YOU’RE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR ME.
I’M FIGHTING TO LIVE.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR ME.
HE’S GOING TO BE HAVING TO FIND
AN ANSWER THAT IS GOING TO MAKE
SENSE 0 THOSE FOLKS WHO
SUPPORTED HIM IN 2016 BECAUSE
DEFLECTION IS ONE THING.
WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW
BUT A LONG LIST OF BROKEN
PROMISES ON TAXES THAT DID
NOTHING FOR AMERICAN WORKERS BUT
EVERYTHING FOR THE WEALTHY, ON
HEALTH CARE WHICH TRUMP IS
TRYING TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLE’S
CARE ESPECIALLY INDIVIDUALS
LIVING WITH PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW AS WELL AS
ON JOBS.
ON JOBS. WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS IN THE AUTO
INDUSTRY JOBLESS RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE THOSE FACTORIES DID
LEAVE THE COUNTRY HE HAS NOTHING
TO SHOW FOR HIMSELF.
USE THE BLAI PLAYBOOKING.
>> THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR
JOINING US TONIGHT.
MICHELLE STAYS.
MICHELLE STAYS. I WANT TO DO ONE MORE THING
WHICH IS MR. WALSH.
YOU KNOW, THE TALKING ABOUT
DEFYING DEVENTANCY DOWN.
IT IS STRIKING I DON’T THINK
ANYONE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED FIVE
YEARS AGO INCLUDING PEOPLE ON
THE POLITICAL RIGHT THAT JOE
WALSH WOULD BE ACCORDING TO AT
LEAST SOME CONSERVATIVES, THE
MORE REASONABLE SAVIOUR AGAINST
DONALD TRUMP OR AT LEAST WOULD
BE THE TOOL.
SO WHILE WE’RE MENTIONING THIS
TAN AS YOU SAID IT MAY REFLECT
THE WEAKNESS PEOPLE SEE OUT
THERE, WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE
DIDN’T HOLD MR. WALSH
ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS OWN
STATEMENTS.
STATEMENTS. AS HE BECOMES THE NEXT POTENTIAL
REPUBLICAN FOE IN THE MEDIA
SPHERE, WE KNOW TRUMP DOESN’T
LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THIS
STUFF ON TV, HERE IS WHAT IS JOE
WALSH.
WALSH. TAKE A LOOK.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. PRESIDENT,
IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA AND I
WONDER HOW MANY OF THESE
ALLIGATORS IT WOULD TAKE TO
SECURE THE BOARDER?
>> IF I WANTED PEOPLE TO TAKE UP
ARMS, WHY WOULD I RECOMMEND
PEOPLE TAKE UP AN ANTIQUE LIKE A
MUSKET?
MUSKET? I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.
IN 2016, I WANT PEOPLE TO GO OUT
AND FIND A MUSKET?
>> THEY WANT THE HISPANIC VOTE,
THEY WANT HISPANICS DEPENDENT
UPON GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE THEY
GOT AFRICAN-AMERICANS DEPENDENT
UPON GOVERNMENT.
UPON GOVERNMENT. >> IS HE A CONTRAST TO TRUMP OR
IS HE JUST SORT OF ANOTHER
TRUMP?
TRUMP? >> I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO
LOOK, LOOK I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE
FOR JOE WALSH.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE.
>> IT’S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FIRST
OF ALL HE HAS APOLOGIZED FOR THE
ROLE THAT HE PLAYED IN
INTRODUCING A TRUMP-LIKE
POLITICS INTO THE UNITED STATES.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? SO THAT I THINK ALREADY GIVES
HIM MORAL AUTHORITY OVER TRUMP
WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY SAYING
THAT MUCH.
THAT MUCH. SO I THINK THAT THE REASON THAT
HE IS A POSSIBLE CONTRAST TO
TRUMP OR AT LEAST A POSSIBLE
FOIL TO TRUMP IS BECAUSE HE
CLEARLY DOES SHARE THE SAME
UNDERLYING COMMITMENTS.
UNDERLYING COMMITMENTS. I THINK I’VE SAID THIS ON YOUR
SHOW BEFORE THAT OFTEN PEOPLE
WHO BECOME DEFECTORS FROM A
MOVEMENT ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
TRUE BELIEVERS.
TRUE BELIEVERS. IF THE TRUE BELIEVERS FEEL TRULY
DISAPPOINTED AND TRULY BETRAYED
WHEN THE IDEASALS OF THE
MOVEMENT THEY WERE PART OF TURN
OUT TO BE -- AREN’T LIVED UP TO,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? SO THAT’S WHY YOU SEE SOMEBODY
LIKE JUSTIN AMASH WHO WAS VERY,
VERY CONSERVATIVE BECOME THE
ONLY PERSON TO LEAVE THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY IN CONGRESS
OVER TRUMP, RIGHT?
MARK SANFORD IS EXTREMELY
CONSERVATIVE.
CONSERVATIVE. JEFF FLAKE WAS ONE OF THE MOST
CONSERVATIVE SENATORS AND WAS A
KIND OF TEA PARTY DARLING BEFORE
HE GOT ON THE WRONG SIDE OF
TRUMP.
TRUMP. SO IN A WAY, IT’S THE PEOPLE WHO
CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE PURPORTED
IDEALS OF THE CONSERVATIVE
MOVEMENT TO BLANCH WHEN BETRAYED
THAT ARE GOING TO LAUNCH -- THAT
ARE GOING TO LAUNCH A CHALLENGE
TO TRUMP.
TO TRUMP. >> YOU JUST PUT YOUR FINGER ON
SOMETHING IMPORTANT WHICH IS FOR
ALL THE ENERGY OF THE RESISTANCE
WHICH HAS A LOT OF A MORAL
DIMENSION, IT ISN’T ENOUGH TO
JUST TELL THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT
DONALD TRUMP HE’S THE WORST AND
YOU’RE THE WORST AND YOU’RE
LATE.
LATE. WHAT’S NOT A WINNING
COALITION-BUILDING STRATEGY.
COALITION-BUILDING STRATEGY. SO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO FIGURE
OUT IF PART OF THE ARGUMENT IS
THAT HE’S A CON, HOW DO YOU TELL
PEOPLE THAT WITHOUT INSULTING
THEM BECAUSE IT SUGGESTS THEY’VE
BEEN COULDN’T.
BEEN COULDN’T. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT HE’S A
CON AND SAYS YOU KIND OF THE
COROLLARY OF THAT IS YOU HAD A
RIGHT TO EXPECT BETTER.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. AND THERE’S BROKEN PROPSES.