-Do you find that you're the group of people that surround you now friends or otherwise are
different? -I've had to like find people to celebrate with like hey, can I celebrate with you?
-He's a goof. You know, he's a mean-spirited rude, idiot.
So, when you start to really get successful as things have kind of taken off for you
and your family and your business. I mean, they talk about it being lonely at the top and
you and I have briefly discussed this. But I mean, what do you mean by that and does that apply?
-Yeah, it's unusual especially you know in our previous conversation we were talking about the
six years that I was a part of a network marketing company. So, I've had this company 12 years had a
sales job so prior to that for six years. What I loved is the kind of recognition. If you
did a certain amount of sales or whatnot you'd get a plaque or you'd you know get applause.
-Celebrated. -Every year there was a convention and they would bring these people the ring earners up
on stage. Oh, this person made 400,000 a year and you're like, "Whoa, I want to be on that
stage". -I think i've hosted those before. -That's awesome. -So, admittedly, I really was excited
about that recognition. But as an entrepreneur creating my own business there's no one that would
recognize me like... So, I've been a part of the national speakers association for I think like
8 years and many of us that have you know been in that chapter that long we've been through
some stuff together. We've gone to different events. We've consulted each other on our businesses and
so I went to a friend that has been a friend of mine for that long and I kind of shared
like, "Look, I made this much money this year", not as a way to brag. -Yeah. -But just like.
-Just a friend you should be able to talk to, that's exciting. -Yeah and she said good for
you and it was just like she was so awkward. She didn't know what to say and it's kind of like
Are we not we can't talk anymore? It was awkward like because I know her
income she's 150,000 and as a mom as well not the full breadwinner she's like that's
that's pretty big deal. That's pretty significant. But I wasn't expecting that I was like
you know like, "Oh wow, you made it", you know let's... I was expecting like you know we've been working at this.
We've been talking about and not just her but everyone in that chapter and in different
circles it's like we can future think. Yeah, this is my plan and I think I'll be able to get my
business to a seven-figure business or I could think you know and finally get there
I haven't had anyone to celebrate with like I haven't. I've had to like find people to
celebrate with like hey, can I celebrate with you? Like it's been really awkward. So, that's...
I don't know if that's what other people mean by lonely at the top but that's kind of
what I've experienced. I'm sure they're taking me by surprise. -Yeah. You know it's interesting
human nature almost and this relationship to money where somehow this money has changed you.
You know and fundamentally you're still just the same guy you just have more in the bank.
Oh sure, we can afford a little larger house and might be able to get. But I mean, it's not you know
it's not like some of the you know the rappers or whatever that sign multi-million
dollar deals and they go and blow it all in one night at a party at Harrah's or whatever Harrah's.
There's an exotic locale but you know what I mean? But I think people perceive that, "Oh, I can't".
So, in the case of my friend. -We're not in the same. -What I would have expected is she'd be like,
"You did? Wow. I'm really wanting to get there". -Isn't that what I've done? -Can I pick your brand?
-I mean, you don't tell me what you make but I'm like genuinely happy for you like that's what
you wanted and you got it high five. You know what I mean? But she wasn't able to provide.
See, I'm a nice person. -I think in her mind or the way that I felt is now I'm on a higher level
and there's now awkwardness like because I would love to like
we're friends. You don't have to pay me for my advice or anything or like I can tell you
exactly what I did. I figured it out. -Look, if I may and I'm no politician and I don't talk politics.
But Donald Trump is a billionaire and honestly if you didn't know that about him you would just
think he's the biggest [ __ ] that ever walked the face of the earth. I mean and I'm conservative
you know what I'm saying? Like principally and philosophically I liked the things that he was...
he was espousing during his presidency but just using it in this example. I mean,
people that would look at Donald Trump and go because he's a billionaire he's better than me,
he's smarter than me. He deserves greater respect than me. he should get the seat at the table even
though there's a line a mile along. We should fast track him on the spinning tin cups at Disneyland
or it's a small world. You know, because he's more important he is a mystical magical importance
about him. No, this is just especially that guy. I'm not comparing you at all to Donald Trump.
I mean but he's just especially the hair he's a goof. You know he's a mean-spirited rude idiot
and yet because of all this money and now again this is just me, I'm not this is just by no means.
I don't know who watches this but you know what I mean it's like sorry it's just money.
For heaven's sakes, it's just it's that's all it is and you can't take it with you.
At some point, none of us will have any money you know more a lot or a little and so it's sad
to me to hear that you have. Normally you think that the opposite is true like friends
would come out of the woodwork. I've heard you're doing great. -It does become a little awkward. So, I
admit there's a and I don't say this. I feel uncomfortable like it's like I'm bragging now.
Within the national speakers association there's a group called the million-dollar speaker's group.
It's basically just a mastermind. There's no fee to join the group but
you have to have a certain income level and then we have monthly sometimes more than that
where we just meet up and we chat, we mastermind. W have a topic where we share concerns and get
feedback. I've really found great value in that group. The same value that I feel there I used
to feel in my regular chapter of the NSA but now I've had to kind of step into that. -I was going
to ask that. Do you find that you're the group of people that surround you now friends or otherwise
are different that there may be there they sort of can relate to you on that level? -In some cases
yeah in some cases no like my the friends that it was never about business or income or anything
that we just got together and we play games or we go mountain biking. Those friendships are all
still the same. But when there's kind of been a professional relationship and maybe
they saw us as on equal ground and now I'm making more money or I've got more success and
so now it's like there's an inequality or some bizarre isn't it? -In some respects, I go
through a similar thing but for different reasons and I don't the only real friends that
I have are the ones I've had since junior high school like because they know me and they've
always known me and I'm just me. But people that I meet later in life that don't relate to me
on that level it's like I don't really know if they're my friends or not. You know and I don't
get invited to things. I'm not the prom queen who sits home because I'm not a girl. But I kind of
understand that a little bit better and I wish I could go back in time and ask those girls out
because I would. I hope my wife isn't watching. Let me put you on the spot. What would you tell him?
What advice would you give him right now to do? So, the only way that YouTube
could actually slow down or decline is. -Why would anybody put an ad before my video?