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>> KYLE
>> KYLE IBOSHI KGW NEWS. >> OK, LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR BIG
STORY TONIGHT WHICH IS ONCE
AGAIN ABOUT THAT RED HOUSE IN
NORTH PORTLAND.
NORTH PORTLAND. THIS IS SOME WE'VE BEEN
COVERING ALL WEEK.
PROTESTERS STILL OUT THERE
TRYING TO STOP THE EVICTION
OF A BLACK FAMILY FROM THIS
SO-CALLED RED HOUSE AND FOR THE
FOURTH DAY THEY'VE BLOCKED OFF
ENTIRELY THIS BUSY STRETCH
OF NORTH MISSISSIPPI AVENUE TO
STOP POLICE FROM COMING.
BUT THIS STORY IS A LOT MORE
COMPLEX THAN THAT OR IT HAS A
LOT LAYERS AND WHEN I SAY A
LOT, I MEAN A LOT.
WE ACTUALLY JUST PULLED BACK A
FEW IN THE PAST FEW HOURS.
NOW I KNOW YOU JUST HEARD FROM
KYLE IBOSHI BUT HE'S A BUSY
GUY.
GUY.
GUY. WE
GUY. WE RELY ON HIM A LOT HERE ON
THIS STORY.
THIS STORY. SO HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN OUT IN
NORTH PORTLAND TRYING TO SORT
THROUGH THIS SITUATION FOR US
NOW.
NOW.
NOW. WE
NOW. WE DID WANT TO TALK TO HIM LIVE
HERE AT SIX O'CLOCK ON THE SHOW
BUT FRANKLY WE HAD SOME
SECURITY CONCERNS AS YOU KNOW,
THE SUN GOES DOWN, IT GETS DARK
AND REPORTER HAS NOTHING BUT
BRIGHT LIGHTS SHINING ON HIM IN
HIS EYE.
HIS EYE.
HIS EYE. SO INSTEAD WE RECORDED IT.
SO HERE'S MY CONVERSATION WITH
HIM FROM ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR
AGO.
AGO.
AGO. >>
AGO. >> OK, KYLE IBOSHI JOINING US
NOW.
NOW.
NOW. KYLE, YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS STORY
LEARNING WHAT YOU CAN.
WE LEARNED LITTLE BIT LAST
NIGHT THAT THE DEVELOPER SEEMS
TO NOW BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESOLUTION
WITH THIS FAMILY.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT?
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. THAT REAL ESTATE INVESTOR
THROUGH A TEXT MESSAGE ON
MAGGIE VESPER SAID HE'S OPEN TO
PROPOSALS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
ALSO TOLD THE OREGONIAN LISTEN,
HE'S WANT TO SELL THIS PROPERTY
TO THE ORIGINAL HOMEOWNERS AT
COST.
COST.
COST. THIS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT
COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE AN OFF
RAMP FOR BOTH SIDES AND CREATE
A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION
ULTIMATELY IF THEY BOTH AGREE.
ALSO WORTH NOTING THROUGH
CROWDFUNDING THEY'VE BEEN ABLE
TO RAISE ABOUT THREE HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH WOULD
FAR SURPASS THE AMOUNT THAT HE
BOUGHT THIS HOUSE FOR
ORIGINALLY DURING FORECLOSURE
SALE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
>> NOW SINCE THE BEGINNING
OF THIS, THE CONVERSATION HAS
BEEN ABOUT THIS FAMILY BEING
EVICTED DURING YOU KNOW, DURING
THE WINTER MONTHS DURING A
PANDEMIC AND POTENTIALLY BEING
OUT ON THE STREET.
BUT WE'VE ALSO LEARNED AS THE
INFORMATION CONTINUES TO KIND
SLOWLY COME OUT HERE OVER DAYS
AND DAYS THAT THE FAMILY OWNS A
SECOND HOME NEARBY.
WHAT ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL ABOUT
THAT PROPERTY?
THAT PROPERTY? >> YEAH, THIS STORY IS ANYTHING
BUT NEAT AND TIDY.
PROPERTY RECORDS INDICATE THE
FAMILY THE CENTER OF ALL THIS.
THE KINNEYS HAVE A SECOND HOME.
IT'S ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY FROM
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. WE
HERE. WE WENT VISITED TODAY, KNOCKED
ON THE DOOR TO SEE IF THEY'D
COMMENT.
COMMENT.
COMMENT. THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR
COMMENT.
COMMENT.
COMMENT. SO THEY TALKED TO US AND PUSH
THAT INTERVIEW BACK ULTIMATELY
SAID THEY'LL TALK TO US
TOMORROW.
TOMORROW.
TOMORROW. MARKET VALUE FOR THAT HOME IS
ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS.
DOLLARS.
DOLLARS. GOT IT.
GOT IT.
GOT IT. OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. YPOU GET MORE MORE COMPLICATED.
CARL, I APPRECIATE IT.
NOW FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY BE
NEW AROUND HERE.
>> PORTLAND HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR
YEARS AS A HOTSPOT FOR PROTESTS
LIKE THIS.
LIKE THIS. WE TALKED TO SOCIOLOGIST AND
THE CHAIR OF THE OREGON
COALITION AGAINST HATE.
RANDY BLAZACK YESTERDAY ABOUT
WHY PROTEST SEEMED TO RESONATE
IN THIS CITY.
>> WELL, WE HAVE A HISTORY
OF RADICAL PROTESTS IN
PORTLAND.
PORTLAND.
PORTLAND. IT GOES WAY BACK.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
KIND OF IGNITED BY THE BLACK
LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT AND
FINDING WAYS TO PUT THAT
IDEOLOGY TO WORK TO TO ACTUALLY
COME AND SHOW UP FOR FOR
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITIZENS IN
PORTLAND WHO HAVE A LONG
HISTORY OF BEING DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST IN THE WORST WAYS.
AND SO WE'RE AT A POINT IN THIS
MOVEMENT AFTER THE LONG HOT
SUMMER THAT WE HAVE WHERE
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIND
PRACTICAL WAYS MAKING THIS
MOVEMENT IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES.
>> AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS
IS SORT OF AN EXAMPLE
OF LOOKING AROUND AND TRYING TO
FIND OH, HERE IS A PLACE WHERE
WE CAN SHOW UP AND DEFEND SOME
PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO'VE WHO'VE
HAD A ROUGH, ROUGH ROAD THAT
WAS HAPPENING BEFORE 2020.
FOLKS WERE REALLY SORT
OF DEFENDING FRAGILE ECONOMIC
POPULATIONS OR ECONOMICALLY
FRAGILE POPULATIONS.
FRAGILE POPULATIONS. >> SO I MEAN THAT'S SORT OF A
PART SHORT VERSION IS WE HAVE A
HISTORY OF DOING THIS IN
PORTLAND AND THAT'S GOING TO
CONTINUE WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW,
GEORGE FLOYD AND DONALD TRUMP
OR WE'RE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE.
THERE IS THAT KIND OF RADICAL I
DON'T WANT TO SAY SORT
OF KNIGHT ON A WHITE HORSE THAT
MAKES IT SOUND WHITE BUT IT IS
SORT OF A WHITE THING OF , YOU
KNOW, REALLY SORT OF LOOKING
FOR PEOPLE WHO WHO CAN USE
DIRECT ACTION TO IMPROVE THEIR
LIVES.
LIVES.
LIVES. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST PART
OF THE TRADITION HERE IN
PORTLAND AND I THINK THAT
CONTINUES NO MATTER WHO IS
SITTING AT THE TOP OR WHAT
STORY IS DRIVING THE NEWS.
THOSE FOLKS ARE VERY COMMITTED
TO DEFENDING THE VULNERABLE.
AND IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH
THOSE POINTS HE WAS MAKING.
>> OBVIOUSLY WE SAW PROTESTS IN
THE STREETS ALL SUMMER BUT
PORTLAND HAS ALSO SEEN SIMILAR
STANDOFFS TO THE ONES WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING NOW LIKE THE
OCCUPY PORTLAND ENCAMPMENT IN
DOWNTOWN PORTLAND IN 2011 AND
THE OCCUPY ICE PROTEST IN 2018.
>> IN BOTH CASES.
WE SHOULD SAY POLICE EVENTUALLY
MOVED IN TO CLEAR THOSE
DEMONSTRATIONS DURING EARLY
MORNING RAIDS.
MORNING RAIDS. I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND AND
GIVE MY OPINION ON THE RED
HOUSE.
HOUSE.
HOUSE. I
HOUSE. I WANT TO START IT.
I WOULD START WITH A QUESTION
AND IT'S ABOUT THAT THREE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT
HAS BEEN RAISED ON GOFUNDME FOR
THE FAMILY.
THE FAMILY. WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY PLANNED
TO DO WITH THAT MONEY?
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I WAS READING
THROUGH THE GO FUND ME PAGE
WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS RALLIED
AROUND THIS FAMILY'S STORY AND
IT STARTS IN THE MIDST OF A
DEADLY GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
WHILE MOST OF THE STATE WAS
ABLAZE, AN AIR FILLED WITH
TOXIC SMOKE.
TOXIC SMOKE. THE KINNEY FAMILY WAS FORCIBLY
REMOVED FROM THEIR FOURTH
GENERATION HOME IN THE MORNING
OF SEPTEMBER 9TH.
20 MULTNOMAH COUNTY SHERIFFS
BASHED OPEN THE KENNEY FAMILY
DOOR AT GUNPOINT.
WE REFUSED TO LET ANOTHER
EVICTION HAPPEN OUTRAGED AT THE
TREATMENT OF THIS APHRO
INDIGINOUS FAMILY.
INDIGINOUS FAMILY. AND IT IS AWFUL READING THE
DETAILS ON THAT PAGE.
THE TIMING OF ALL THIS IS EVEN
WORSE.
WORSE.
WORSE. I
WORSE. I MEAN THE PICTURE THE FAMILY
COULD BE FORCED INTO
HOMELESSNESS IN A CITY STRICKEN
WITH HOMELESSNESS.
WITH HOMELESSNESS. AND DURING A PANDEMIC.
BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY OUT MILO,
15 PARAGRAPHS OR SO ON THAT
PAGE IT EXPLAINS THIS SITUATION
AND ASKS FOR THE CHARITY
OF STRANGERS.
OF STRANGERS. >> I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT
THIS FAMILY OWNING A SECOND
HOUSE ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY
WORTH MORE THAN SIX HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THOUSAND DOLLARS. I DIDN'T READ THE PART WHERE
THIS FAMILY HAS A HISTORY
OF IGNORING THE LAW AND ARGUED
OVER 60 TIMES IN COURT
DOCUMENTS THAT THEY CONSIDER
THEMSELVES SOVERIN CITIZENS.
I MEAN ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT
THEY JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN OUR
LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY AND THAT
THEY DON'T APPLY TO THEM OR THE
IRONY THAT THE ARGUMENT
OF SOVERIN CITIZENSHIP ACTUALLY
STARTED WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS
AND IS TOTAL NONSENSE.
SEE THAT INFORMATION CAME FROM
JOURNALISTS DOING STORIES AND
DIGGING THROUGH DOCUMENTS.
NOW WHEN OUR REPORTERS WENT
BEHIND THE BARRICADES TO LEARN
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS, THEY
WERE TOLD WHO THEY COULD GET
VIDEO OF AND HOW MANY QUESTIONS
THEY WERE ALLOWED TO ASK.
>> EARLIER THIS WEEK A REPORTER
FROM ANOTHER STATION AND A
PHOTOGRAPHER WERE THREATENED
VERBALLY AND PHYSICALLY ON
CAMERA.
CAMERA.
CAMERA. >> SOMEONE SLAPPED HER PHONE TO
THE GROUND AND WHEN SHE WENT TO
PICK IT UP THEY STOMPED ON HER
HAND OPENING A ON HER FINGER.
THESE ARE ATTEMPTS TO SUPPRESS
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS AND I'M
TRYING TO THINK OF A WORD TO
CLASSIFY THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
IT'S OH YEAH FASCISM.
CAN YOU SEE HOW THAT'S A LITTLE
BIT CONFUSING AND WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THAT REPORTER
GETTING HER HANDS STOMPED.
WE ASKED SOMEONE IN THAT GROUP
ABOUT THAT ABOUT THAT SITUATION
AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY
DON'T STAND BY THE ACTIONS
OF THE PERSON WHO DID THAT.
DID THAT PERSON ACTED ON HIS
OWN BUT THEN THEY SAID
SOMETHING THAT JUST CAUGHT MY
ATTENTION.
ATTENTION. >> AND WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW.
>> THEY WILL BE DISCIPLINED.
IT WILL BE DISCIPLINED.
SO AGAIN, JUST FOR THE SAKE
OF CLARITY.
OF CLARITY. A GROUP THAT WANTS TO ABOLISH
POLICE AND ELIMINATE PRISONS
AND SUPPORTS A FAMILY WHO
DOESN'T BELIEVE THE LAW APPLIES
TO THEM IS GOING TO DISCIPLINE
SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THAT
COULD HONESTLY BE CONSIDERED A
FORM OF ASSAULT.
AND I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO SAY
OK, YES, SURE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CAN YOU SEE HOW THAT'S
CONFUSING?
CONFUSING? WE ARE FACING A CATASTROPHE IN
THIS CITY.
THIS CITY. >> THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
HOMELSSNESS IS OUT OF CONTROL
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT AS A
CLICHE.
CLICHE.
CLICHE. WE LITTERALLY HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO CONTROL IT.
IS IT TRUE THAT BANKS GIVE
PREDATORY LOANS?
PREDATORY LOANS? YES.
YES.
YES. DOES
YES. DOES OUR LEGAL SYSTEM FAVOR
PEOPLE WITH MONEY AND AT TIMES
SUPPRESS THE MARGINALIZED?
YES.
YES.
YES. DO
YES. DO WE SPEND ENOUGH TIME
TACKLING THAT ISSUE NOW?
PROBABLY NOT.
PROBABLY NOT. MAYBE.
MAYBE.
MAYBE. PROBABLY NOT.
PROBABLY NOT. HONESTLY.
HONESTLY.
HONESTLY. I CAN ADMIT THAT.
SO I GET IT.
I RESPECT.
I RESPECT. I REALLY DO THE PASSION AND THE
SELFLESSNESS OF THE ACTIVISTS
IN THIS CITY.
IT'S UNLIKE ANYTHING I'VE EVER
SEEN AND I'VE LIVED IN A BUNCH
OF CITIES.
OF CITIES. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
THIS AND I RESPECT IT.
BUT HERE'S WHAT'S ALSO TRUE
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. THE
HERE. THE COMMUNITY GAVE THREE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
WITHOUT HEARING ALL THE FACTS.
AND YPOU BARICADE A STREET
WILLING TO RISK IT ALL BECAUSE
YOU FEEL SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT
DEFENDING SOMEONE WHO YOU THINK
IS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE
OF WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
ACCEPTING CHARITY FROM PEOPLE
WHO DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY.