THE FAERT IN POWER. YOU DON'T HAVE THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION MATCHING ANYTHING LIKE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN
THE SECOND TERM. YOU DON'T HAVE A FOREIGN POLICY
TRIUMPH THE DEMOCRATS CAN CAMPAIGN ON LIKE GETTING RID OF
BIN LADEN. IN HILLARY CLINTON YOU DON'T
HAVE A JOHN F. KENNEDY. THAT'S SIX FACTORS.
>> THAT WAS AMERICAN UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR ALLAN LICHTMAN ON
"MORNING JOE" ON EXPLAINING HIS BASIS FOR PREDICTING TRUMP WOULD
WIN THE ELECTION. HE GOT IT RIGHT, ADDING TO HIS
STREAK OF CORRECTLY PREDICTING THE WINNER OF OF PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION SINCE 1984. PROFESSOR LICHTMAN JOINS US WITH
HIS NEW BOOK "THE CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT".
>> JUST LOOK AT THAT COVER. LOOK AT THAT COVER.
THAT IS LIBERAL CATNIP. YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT ANY
LIBERAL CAN PASS BY THAT, WILLIE, AND NOT BUY THAT BOOK.
>> THEY SHOULD START PRINTING THE BELL SELLER LIST.
>> THAT IS NUMBER ONE RIGHT NOW. >> BEFORE WE GET TO THAT,
PROFESSOR, HAVE I TO ASK YOU, TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH -- ABUSE,
I'M SERIOUS, HOW MUCH ABUSE DID YOU GET FOR PREDICTING BACK IN
THE FALL THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING TO GET ELECTED WHEN YOU
SAID -- >> PEOPLE WONDERED IF I GOT MY
DEGREE MAIL ORDER BECAUSE -- >> PROFESSORS DIDN'T EAT WITH
YOU IN THE CAFETERIA. >> I'M AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY IN
THE HEART OF LIBERAL WASHINGTON, D.C.
NOBODY WOULD TALK TO ME. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD MAKE SIGNS
WHEN THEY SAW ME COMING. THEY WOULD PROTECT THEMSELVES.
>> YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE FOR THE PAST 54
YEARS. STILL, IT WAS PRETTY -- THE
PREDICTION WAS REMARKABLE. WHAT IS THE WORST INSULT YOU CAN
REMEMBER FROM A COLLEAGUE OR SOMEBODY WHEN YOU MADE THAT
PREDICTION?
>> I THINK THE BIGGEST INSULT IS SOMEBODY SUGGEST WHO ARE THEY
HIRING THESE DAYS AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY?
AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CALL THE PRESIDENT TO GET RID OF YOU.
>> I HAVE SOMETHING CALLED TENURE, THOUGH.
>> NOT FOR LONG. I'M JOKING.
>> NOT ONCE TRUMP CALLS THE PRESIDENT OF AU.
>> EXACTLY. WILLIE GEIST "THE CASE AGAINST
IMPEACHMENT," THE SECOND ACT. >> DO YOU BELIEVE -- LET'S LAY
IT ALL OUT. DO YOU BELIEVE THERE'S A BASIS
FOR IMPEACHMENT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP OR IF THINGS PLAY OUT
THERE COULD BE? >> I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DRAW
UP ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT NOW. I WROTE THIS BOOK BECAUSE I DO
BELIEVE THE WAY I SEE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GOING THAT IT
DOES POSE A THREAT TO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER, OUR
LIBERTIES AND FREEDOM. AS YOU SEE IN NORTH KOREA, EVEN
OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. >> WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE
THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE? >> RIGHT NOW I THINK YOU COULD
WRITE SOMETHING UP ON CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
YOU KNOW, TRUMP JUST GOT ALL THESE TRADEMARKS FROM CHINA
RIGHT AFTER HE SEEMED TO HAVE SWITCHED OFF OF HIS APPROACH TO
TAIWAN. BY THE WAY, ONE OF THEM IS FOR
AN ESCORT SERVICE. I JUST READ IVANKA TRUMP GOT A
BUNCH OF TRADEMARKS IN CHINA. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE ENVOY
FROM PHILIPPINES TO UNITED STATES IS HEAD OF TRUMP TOUR
MANILA. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE
EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION BUT IT SAYS YOU
CAN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING IF YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF VALUE FROM A
FOREIGN POWER AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A QUID PRO QUO.
TRUMP'S BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS NOT FULLY DIVESTING.
Y, HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN A HIT TO HIS FORTUNE BUT STILL WOULD HAVE
BEEN A BHL AIR. >> THERE'S A LOT --
>> WE WANT TO CLEAN SOMETHING UP HERE, RIGHT?
>> THE ESCORT SERVICE. >> YEAH.
>> DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A CONNECTION MADE THERE FROM THE
PRESIDENT. THEY WERE TRYING USE HIS NAME.
IT WASN'T HIM. >> OKAY.
BUT DO YOU BELIEVE THESE EXISTING CHARGES ARE THERE NOW?
LIKE SOMEONE COULD DROP AN ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT NOW IN
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OR ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S AN
INVESTIGATION THAT SHOWS A DIRECT LINE ON ALL THESE ISSUES,
THEN YOU BRING IT UP? >> THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE OF AN
INVESTIGATION UP. CAN'T DRAW UP ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT RIGHT NOW BUT THE MOST LIKELY GROUNDS FOR
IMPEACHMENT IS GOING TO BE COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA DEPENDING
ON WHAT COMES OUT OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS.
>> SO, THIS LOOKS LIKE THIS BOOK, MARK HALPERIN, JUST
LOOKING THROUGH IT, AGAIN, LOOKING AT HISTORICAL PARALLELS,
THE CHARACTERISTICS AND THE TRAITS DONALD TRUMP HAS COMPARED
TO OTHER PRESIDENT WHO IS HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AND RAN INTO
TROUBLE SUBSEQUENTLY. >> WELL, AS -- THERE'S NOT A
HUGE SAMPLE SPACE HERE. WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY PRESIDENTS
IMPEACHED. SO, PARALLELS MAY NOT GET YOU
THE ANSWER. I WANT TO CLEAR UP TWO THINGS.
ONE IS, YOU MENTIONED YOUR DEGREE WAS NOT MAIL ORDER.
IT WAS FROM TRUMP UNIVERSITY, RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE YOUR Ph.D.
IS FROM? >> I PAID HIM TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF DOLLARS. >> THE CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT, ARE
YOU ADVOCATING IMPEACHMENT OR PREDICTING IT?
>> I'M NOT ADVOCATING IMPEACHMENT RIGHT NOW.
>> ARE YOU PREDICTING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> I'M PREDICTING IT'S VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN.
THERE'S A CHAPTER CALLED "THE WAY OUT" IN WHICH I SUGGEST
TRUMP CAN CHANGE HIS WAYS AND POSSIBLY AVOID IMPEACHMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS WRITE A
GUIDE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE IMPEACHMENT WILL ONLY
HAPPEN IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEMAND IT.
OR IF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE COME TO BELIEVE TRUMP IS A
LIABILITY, WHICH THEY MAY WELL, AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
SPECIAL ELECTION IN GEORGIA WHICH CAN COULD BE A HARBINGER
OF THAT. SO, IF HE BECOMES A LIABILITY,
THEY MAY BE WILLING TO DUMP HIM BEFORE THE 2018 MIDTERMS.
REMEMBER, TRUMP HAS NO PARTICULARLY STRONG
RELATIONSHIPS WITH REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AND THEY LOVE MIKE
PENCE. IF PENCE BECOMES PRESIDENT,
GUESS WHAT ADDITION. >> OH, MY GOD --
>> HE APPOINTS HIS VICE PRESIDENT.
YOU COULD HAVE THE REPUBLICAN DREAM TEAM OF MIKE PENCE AND
PAUL RYAN. THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> OH, MY GOSH. >> THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> PROBABLY COULD GO WITH THE EASTER BUNNY I WOULD THINK.
>> THAT'S WHY YOU GOT -- THAT'S WHY HAVE YOU TO READ THE BOOK.
>> MARK? >> SO, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT
A REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS WOULD ACTUALLY IMPEACH THE
PRESIDENT? I KNOW THEY TO WANT SEPARATE.
IT'S ONE TO POLITICALLY SEPARATE, IT'S ANOTHER TO
IMPEACH. WOULDN'T THAT PLUNGE THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY INTO HUGE CONTROVERSY?
>> OF COURSE, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY INTO HUGE CONTROVERSY.
YOU'VE SEEN THE RECENT POLLS WITH THE PLUMMETING STANDING OF
THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AND A RECENT POLL SHOWING EVEN A
MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS NO LONGER BELIEVE THAT CONGRESS
NEEDS TO GO ALONG WITH THE TRUMP --
>> MOST MEMBERS ARE IN DISTRICTS WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS
OVERWHELMINGLY POPULAR. >> WE'LL SEE.
IT DOESN'T TAKE ALL THE REPUBLICANS.
YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS. ASSUMING THE DEMOCRATS STAND
FIRM, ONLY TAKES ABOUT TWO DOZEN REPUBLICANS.
YOU HAVE MANY MORE THAN THAT IN VULNERABLE DISTRICTS.
>> ALLAN LICHTMAN. >> WE'LL SEE AGAIN IN GEORGIA
EXACTLY WHETHER THAT'S ONE -- >> WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.
ALLAN LICHTMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, PROFESSOR. >> WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
MY GOODNESS. CAN YOU READ AN EXCERPT ON OUR
WEBSITE, MORNINGJOE.MSNBC.COM. >>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SEEKING
TO HOLD TRUE TO HIS AMERICA FIRST CAMPAIGN PROMISE.
TODAY HE WILL SIGN A TWO-FOLD EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WILL CLAMP
DOWN ON GUEST WORKER VISAS AND ALSO REQUIRE AGENCIES TO BUY
MORE GOODS AND SERVICES FROM U.S. COMPANIES AND WORKERS.
WILL HE SIGN THE BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN EXECUTIVE ORDER
DURING A VISIT TODAY TO THE SNAP-ON MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN
WISCONSIN. IT MAKES COMMONLY