IN THE WAKE OF THE
PLANNED PARENTHOOD TERRORIST ATTACK, THERE WAS ANOTHER
CONCERN THAT FOX HOSTS RAISED. SOME OF THEM WERE WORRIED THAT
WE WERE SO QUICK TO JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS GUY WHO WAS
WHITE WAS WHITE, AND THAT HE WAS LIKELY, SINCE HE WAS SHOOTING UP
AN ABORTION CLINIC, WAS A CHRISTIAN, WHICH HE OF COURSE
TURNED OUT TO BE. BUT STILL, IS THIS DISCRIMINATORY? WE WILL
TURN TO THEM RIGHT NOW.
CHARLES, YOU SAW ON TWITTER A LOT OF PEOPLE RUSHING TO
JUDGMENT, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HESITATE USING THE PHRASE
ISLAMIC TERRORISM WERE QUICK TO USE THE TERM CHRISTIAN. AND IT
WAS QUITE A LEAP AS YOU POINT OUT, TO TALK ABOUT A SHOOTING
AND LINK THAT SOMEHOW TO WOMEN NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ABORTIONS.
THEY WERE NOT RELEASING INFORMATION, AND YET PEOPLE HAD
ALREADY JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS AND THEY WERE IMPLICATING AN
ENTIRE RELIGION, CHRISTIAN, WHITE, REPUBLICAN, BEFORE
WE GOT DETAILS.
THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT IS A NONVIOLENT MOVEMENT.
BY DEFINITION, IT IS ABOUT NONVIOLENT SOLUTIONS.
IT IS ABOUT LIFE.
IT IS ABOUT FINDING NONVIOLENT SOLUTIONS TO UNPLANNED OR
DIFFICULT PREGNANCIES, SO IT IS CYNICAL OF THEM TO TIE THAT
TO THE MOVEMENT, AND IN FACT THE OFFICER WHO SAVED THOSE
LIVES HAPPENED TO BE PRO-LIFE HIMSELF.
INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER ISLAMIC TERRORISM THEY CAN SAY THAT
THERE IS NOW THIS ONGOING THREAT OF CHRISTIAN TERRORISM. BUT HOW
CAN YOU CONFLATE A MURDEROUS CULT, ISLAMIC CULT, TERRORIZING
THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE UNITED STATES AND ANY WESTERN
COUNTRY, AND SOME CRAZY MAN?
I WILL AGREE, IT IS DIFFICULT TO COMPARE THOSE DIRECTLY,
BECAUSE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE 5 TO 7 TIMES MORE LIKELY
TO BE KILLED BY A RIGHT-WING TERRORIST IN AMERICA THAN AN
ISLAMIC TERRORIST, SO IT IS HARD TO COMPARE THEM. SHE IS RIGHT.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE SAID WAS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HESITANT
TO USE THE TERM ISLAMIC TERRORISM ARE SO QUICK TO USE
CHRISTIAN TERRORISM. THE SAME GOES FOR YOU, HOW ABOUT THIS. IF
IT IS A RELIGIOUS PERSON COMMITTING MURDERS BASED ON
THEIR RELIGION, WE USE THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION.
I WILL MATCH YOU ON THE ISLAMIC THING IF YOU USE THE
CHRISTIAN TERM.
WHAT IS THIS RIDICULOUS NOTION THAT LIBERALS ARE GOING OUT OF
THEIR WAY TO PROTECT ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS? I DON'T LIKE ISLAMIC
EXTREMISM. I HATE IT. I ALSO HATE CHRISTIAN EXTREMISM. I
HATE ANY EXTREMISTS OR FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO USES THEIR
RELIGION AS AN EXCUSE TO CARRY OUT ACTS OF VIOLENCE. THEY ARE
ALL HIDEOUS, TERRIBLE. THE ONE THING THAT LIBERALS TRY TO DO
THAT CONSERVATIVES GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO AVOID DOING IS DRAW
DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN MODERATE MUSLIMS, WHO CAUSE NO TROUBLE
WHATSOEVER AND DON'T BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE, AND ISLAMIC
EXTREMISTS. AT THE SAME TIME, FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER,
CONSERVATIVES ARE UNABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THOSE TWO
THINGS, AND ANY TIME CONSERVATIVES DO ANYTHING WRONG
THEY WANT TO DENY THAT ANY WRONGDOING HAS OCCURRED. WHAT
HAPPENED WAS WRONG, AND HIS IDEOLOGY IS VERY, VERY CLEAR. HE
GREW UP BAPTIST, HE DID NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION, AND HE FELT
THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WAS SHOOT UP A PLANNED PARENTHOOD
BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THEY WERE SELLING BABY PARTS. THEY WERE
NOT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW. THAT IS A LIE. IT IS BEYOND DEFAMATORY,
AND THE FACT THAT MEDIA OUTLETS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
NEUTRAL ARE STILL COVERING IT AS THOUGH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
MIGHT DO THAT, THAT DRIVES ME INSANE.
HE POSTED ANTI-ABORTION RANTS ONLINE, HE LIVES WITHOUT
ELECTRICITY BUT HE STILL WENT ON THESE RANTS ONLINE. ONE OF THE
THINGS I LOVED ABOUT WHAT SHE SAID THERE -- WITH SOME THINGS,
LIKE WITH ANN COULTER, WE BELIEVE SHE IS BEING FAKE, DOESN'T
BELIEVE WHAT SHE SAYS -- I CAN'T DECIDE IF THIS ONE IS A MORON OR
NOT. PEOPLE ARE NOT ACTUALLY SAYING THAT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE
TERRORISTS -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING MEAN ABOUT HER.
THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY SAYING THAT, IT IS TO PROVE A LESSON. TO
DEMONSTRATE SOMETHING. AND THAT FLEW A MILE OVER HER HEAD, SHE
HAS NO IDEA THAT THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THERE IS ONE SMALL THING SHE SAID THAT WAS RIGHT. WHEN THE
STORY FIRST BROKE AND THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF A MOTIVE, SOME
PEOPLE DID JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS AND IMMEDIATELY ASSUMED THAT
THIS GUY WAS TARGETING A PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I SAW IT ON TWITTER,
SOCIAL MEDIA. I HAVE TO BE HONEST, OF COURSE I SPECULATED
AND I ASSUMED INTERNALLY THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT
I DID NOT REPORT ANYTHING OR TWEET ANYTHING OR SAY ANYTHING,
UNLESS THERE WAS EVIDENCE. AND THE EVIDENCE WAS THAT HE SAID
SOMETHING ABOUT BABY PARTS, AND AN AUTHORITIES LEAKED THAT TO THE
PRESS, THEN YOU LOOK INTO HIS HISTORY AND YOU REALIZE HE HAD A
VERY CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY. AS SOON AS I HAD THOSE PUZZLE
PIECES TO PUT TOGETHER, THEN I HAD THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN
OPINION ABOUT IT, TO SHARE MY OPINION, AND IT WAS FINE. I
DON'T THINK JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS, WHETHER IT IS A
MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN, IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT ONCE THERE IS
EVIDENCE OF WHAT WENT ON, OF COURSE IT IS OKAY TO
CRITICIZE WHAT IS GOING ON.
I THINK YOU ARE BEING TOO CAUTIOUS. I WOULD NOT REPORT HE
IS A CHRISTIAN CERTAINLY UNTIL THE EVIDENCE CAME OUT, AND HE IS
VERY MUCH A CHRISTIAN. BUT IF SOMEBODY SHOOTS UP IN ABORTION
CLINIC, TO SPECULATE THAT IT IS A CRAZED RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE
SEEMS PRETTY DEFENSIBLE. IF SOMEBODY SHOOTS UP A BLACK
CHURCH, CHANCES ARE THEY ARE A RACIST. IF THEY SHOOT UP A
SYNAGOGUE, THEY ARE PROBABLY ANTI-SEMITIC. IF THEY SHOOT UP A
PLANNED PARENTHOOD THEY ARE PROBABLY A RIGHT-WINGER WHO
LIKES FOX NEWS. TURNS OUT WE WERE 100% CORRECT, THAT IS ICING ON
THE CAKE. IT IS NOT LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD GETS ATTACKED ALL THE
TIME AND SOMETIME IT IS ENVIRONMENTALISTS, SOMETIMES VEGANS,
SOMETIMES IT IS CHRISTIANS. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
CHRISTIANS, THAT IS WHO ATTACKS PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE IT WAS NOT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
THAT HE HAD TARGETED THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
IT SEEMED LIKE HE WAS IN THIS STRIP MALL, SHOPPING
CENTER, OPENING FIRE.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW.
I SAW THROUGH THAT IMMEDIATELY.
OF COURSE. I'M NOT AN IDIOT.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE,
I'M SAYING YOU ARE A JOURNALISM PROFESSOR, THAT IS WHY YOU ARE
LIKE, I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL I HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT
SOURCES OF CONFIRMATION.
AND I'M LIKE, MOTHERFUCKER IS A CHRISTIAN.
YOU ARE THE JOURNALIST, I AM APPARENTLY AN IDEOLOGUE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT, IT'S BEING CAUTIOUS AND NOT JUMPING
TO CONCLUSIONS. BUT I HAD MY SPECULATIONS, I WAS ON BOARD
WITH MOST OF THE TWEETS I SAW, I WAS LIKE, THEY ARE PROBABLY
RIGHT. BUT HOW TERRIBLE WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU MADE THESE
ACCUSATIONS AND LATER YOU FOUND OUT THE STORY DEVELOPS AND
IT IS DIFFERENT.
HE WOULD FEEL IN THIS CASE LIKE TED CRUZ -- I'M SAYING IT'S
OKAY TO SPECULATE ABOUT THE GUY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF REASON. TED
CRUZ SPECULATED THAT HE WAS A TRANSGENDER LEFT-WING ACTIVIST
AND NOW HE LOOKS LIKE AN EFFING MORON. BECAUSE OF COURSE HE IS
NOT, ONE VOTER REGISTRATION HAD HIM LISTED AS A FEMALE, THE
BUREAU THAT DID THE VOTER REGISTRATION SAID THAT WAS OUR
BAD, THAT WAS A TYPO. TED CRUZ, THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING ON YOUR
APOLOGY. BUT FOX NEWS IS SAYING IT IS SO IRRESPONSIBLE TO
SPECULATE.
REPUBLICANS LIKE CRUZ HAVE NO HUMILITY, THEY HAVE NO --
EDUCATION.
NO ANYTHING.
LET'S JUMP TO THIS LAST VIDEO.
CHARLES PAYNE AND HIS PROPOSED SOLUTION.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, WHAT ABOUT PARIS WHEN THEY BROUGHT
IN THOSE MILITARY VEHICLES TO GET PEOPLE TO SAFETY?
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MILITARIZING POLICE BECAUSE
IT IS NOT RIGHT FOR THEM TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF THINGS?
HE WAS SHOOTING AT POLICE OFFICERS.
ALSO, WHAT IF MORE PEOPLE HAD GUNS THERE?
WHAT IF MORE PEOPLE COULD HAVE DEFENDED THEMSELVES?
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT OUTCOME, BUT THEY DON'T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
NO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I HAVE OFTEN THOUGHT IN THE DAYS
SINCE THE SHOOTING THAT THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH GUNS BEING FIRED
THERE. WHAT AN IDIOT. THE MILITARIZATION? WE ARE NOT
SAYING THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN NERF BATS, WE ARE SAYING SMALL TOWNS
DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TANKS. THEY SHOT THE GUY, THEY HAD A
SHOOT OUT WITH HIM, THEY DID NOT MEET HUMVEES
NECESSARILY TO DO THAT.
IT'S FUNNY HOW THEY SEE A STORY LIKE THAT WHERE INNOCENT
PEOPLE GET SHOT AND KILLED, WHICH IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE AT
THIS POINT, AND THE FIRST THING THEY THINK IS MORE GUNS. WHEN IN
REALITY A SANE PERSON WOULD SEE A SITUATION LIKE THAT, WHERE A
MENTALLY ILL PERSON ACCESSED AN AK-47, AND THEY WOULD SAY YOU
KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR GUN LAWS.
MAYBE WE HAVE TOO MANY GUNS OUT THERE. AM I CRAZY RIGHT NOW? WHY
DID THIS GUY HAVE ACCESS TO AN AK-47? BY THE WAY, I KNOW.
IF WE PASS GUN LAWS, THE CRIMINALS AREN'T GOING TO
FOLLOW THE LAWS ANYWAY, SO LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING.
LET'S JUST POLLUTE THE COUNTRY WITH MORE GUNS.
THAT IS THE SOLUTION.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHY COUNTRIES WITH STRONG GUN CONTROL LIKE THE
U.K. AND ISRAEL HAVE TONS OF CRIMINALS WITH AK-47S. EXCEPT
THEY DON'T, BECAUSE THEY HAVE GUN LAWS. WHAT'S I LOVE HOW SHE
MAKES A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW WE NEED MORE GUNS IN THE SAME
SEGMENT WHERE SHE IS TALKING ABOUT HOW AWESOME PRO-LIFE
PEOPLE ARE.
ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT ANY OF THOSE GUYS FROM FOX NEWS ARE
WATCHING THIS, I WANT TO MAKE THIS APPEAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT
THEY CANNOT SEE THE TREND HERE IN THE SORT OF PEOPLE WHO SHOOT
UP THE COPS AND SHOOT THESE PLACES. YOU WILL SEE IT AS A
BUNCH OF CRAZY PEOPLE. BUT I WOULD WONDER, WHY IS IT THAT
WHEN A CRAZY PERSON PICKS UP A GUN AND GOES AND FIRES AT PEOPLE,
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO BE FANS OF FOX NEWS? WHY ARE THEY
ALWAYS FANS OF GLENN BECK AND O'REILLY? WHY DO THEY ALWAYS
SPOUT THIS RIGHT-WING CHRISTIAN RHETORIC? WHY CAN'T A CRAZY
PERSON BE LIBERAL IN THIS COUNTRY, APPARENTLY? AND THE
THING IS, YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE COPS. YOU LOVE THEM, YOU DON'T
WANT THEM TO BE SHOT. BUT THEY ARE BEING AMBUSHED AND KILLED BY
MILITIA MEMBERS AND SOVEREIGN CITIZENS AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER
IN COLORADO SPRINGS -- WHY DOESN'T IT BOTHER YOU THAT
PEOPLE WHO SHARE EVEN A CRAZY VERSION OF YOUR IDEOLOGY
CONTINUE TO KILL THE PEOPLE YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE? IF EVERY WEEK
AN ENVIRONMENTALIST OR A VEGAN WAS SHOOTING COPS, IT WOULD
BOTHER US. WE MIGHT NOT FEEL PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE BUT WE
WOULD WONDER, WHY IS IT THAT LIBERALS KEEP FUCKING KILLING
PEOPLE? WHY DO ENVIRONMENTALISTS, VEGANS, WHY
DO PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR SOLAR ENERGY KEEP SHOOTING UP COPS?
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENS. IT IS ANTIGOVERNMENT RIGHT-WING
LIBERTARIAN CRAZY PEOPLE. NOT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AT THE SAME
TIME, BUT IT IS THOSE SORTS OF PEOPLE. DO SOME SOUL-SEARCHING,
WHY IS YOUR SIDE SO LIKELY TO GO INSANE AND START KILLING PEOPLE?