DOLLARS WORTH OF EQUIPMENT TO
THE TALIBAN.
>> ROW UPON ROW OF SOPHISTICATED
ASSAULT RIFLES, BOXES OF
PISTOLS, AMMUNITION, VISION
EQUIPMENT, VIDEOS POSTED BY THE
TALIBAN ONLINE IN RECENT DAYS
BOAST OF WHAT THEY SAY ARE THERE
SEIZURES OF THE ASSAULT RIFLES
IN THE AFGHAN CITY, AND AT THE
AIRPORT, ARMORED HUMVEES BY THE
DOZEN, SOME MINE-RESISTANT
VEHICLES COSTING HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A PIECE.
EVEN A SMALL DRONE.
THESE ARE THE POTENTIALLY LETHAL
SPOILS THE TALIBAN ARE BELIEVED
TO HAVE CAPTURED IN RECENT DAYS
FROM DEFEATED AFGHAN FORCES,
WEAPONS MADE IN AMERICA,
SUPPLIED BY THE U.S. TO THEIR
FALLEN AFGHAN ALLIES.
>> Tucker: SO, NOW, WE ARE
ARMING THE TALIBAN AND WERE
RUINING OUR OWN CITIZENS IN
AFGHANISTAN.
WHO COULD POSSIBLY HAVE SEEN
THAT COMING?
GLENN GREENWALD IS ONE OF THE
FEW JOURNALISTS WHO DID SEE IT
COMING.
HE WRITES FOR SUB STACK, WHERE
ALL OF US READ HIM AND YOU
SHOULD, TOO.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON.
SO IT IS A LITTLE WEIRD FOR THE
NEWS ORGANIZATION THAT REPEATED
UNCRITICALLY AND NOT JUST ON THE
LEFT, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT
ALMOST ALL OF THEM REPEATED
THESE KIND OF HAPPY TALK ABOUT
HOW AFGHANISTAN WAS PROGRESSING
FOR 20 YEARS, THEN WHIP AROUND
AND ARE SHOCKED THAT ACTUALLY,
IT IS A MESS AND ALWAYS HAS
BEEN, THERE IS SOME DISHONESTY
THERE, ISN’T THERE?
>> THE WHOLE THING WAS A FRAUD,
AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO BACK TO
THINGS LIKE, IN 2019,
"THE WASHINGTON POST" PUBLISHING
WHAT THEY CALL THE AFGHANISTAN
PAPERS, NOT A BOOK OUT BY THE
REPORTER WHO BROKE THAT REALLY
IMPORTANT STORY AND DID A
GOOD JOB ON IT, WITH A OBTAINED
SECRET DOCUMENTS GOING THROUGH
2016 AND THE OBAMA YEARS, WHERE
INTERNALLY, THEY WERE SAYING THE
EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY WERE
THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, JUST
LIKE WITH VIETNAM.
THEY WERE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC,
AS YOU JUST SHOW IT, MAKING
GREAT PROGRESS, FAITH IN THE
AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES,
INTERNALLY THEY KNEW THE AFGHANS
ACUITY FORCES WERE A JOKE,
ILLITERATE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT
DO ANYTHING, DRUG ADDICTS,
PEOPLE WHO HAD NO INTEREST IN
FIGHTING, WOULD DISAPPEAR AS
SOON AS THEY GOT THEIR PAYCHECK.
THE WHOLE WAR FOR YEARS AND
YEARS AND YEARS WAS A LIE, AND
SO, WHILE I DO AGREE, OF COURSE,
THAT THERE ARE IN APTITUDES AND
HOW WE WITHDREW, THE FACT THAT
WE WITHDREW, BECAUSE TWO
PRESIDENTS -- FIRST
PRESIDENT TRUMP, THAN
PRESIDENT BIDEN -- IN SHORT IT
HAPPENED, IS SOMETHING TO
CELEBRATE, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE
IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN AS LONG
AS I CAN REMEMBER, AS THESE
PEOPLE -- WHAT I DO KNOW IS THE
DEEP STATE, THAT MANIPULATE US
ALL THE TIME, THAT LIE TO US ALL
THE TIME FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT,
HAVE FINALLY LOST, AND THE MEDIA
IS TURNING AGAINST BIDEN NOT
BECAUSE THEY SUDDENLY BECAME
FAIR, BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
IN BED WITH THE DEEP STATE, THAT
IS TO FED THEM RUSSIA GATE AND
ALL THE LEAKS DURING THE TRUMP
YEARS, AND THEY ARE ANGRY ON
BEHALF OF THE FACTION THAT THEY
GENERALLY SERVE.
>> Tucker: I HATE TO SAY I
AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK BIDEN IS AN AWFUL
PRESIDENT, THE WORST I CAN
REMEMBER, AND TOTALLY OUT OF IT,
SENILE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, HE IS
PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES.
YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAK AN
AUDIOTAPE OF HIS RECORDED
CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER HEAD
OF STATE.
THAT IS A FELONY, FOR ONE THING.
AND FOR ANOTHER, HOW COULD ANY
PRESIDENT DO REAL DIPLOMACY IF
HE IS BEING UNDERMINED BY
PERMANENT WASHINGTON?
WHY SHOULDN’T WE BE WORRIED
ABOUT THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS THE
KEY POINT, FOR ME AT LEAST, WHEN
I LOOK AT THE TRUMP YEARS.
PEOPLE ASK ME, WHY WHAT YOU ARE
AS WORRIED AS OTHER PEOPLE COME
ON, YOU KNOW, THE LEFT COME
ABOUT THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY, AND
MY REASON WAS BECAUSE WHAT I SAW
IT IN OPPOSITION TO THE TRUMP
PRESIDENCY WAS SOMETHING FAR
MORE DANGEROUS.
THEY TOOK THEIR MASKS OFF AND
MADE CLEAR THE CIA, THE
PENTAGON, THE PERMANENT MILITARY
AND SECURITY STATE INSIDE THE
UNITED STATES, THAT THEY WERE
WILLING TO INTERVENE IN U.S.
POLITICS TO UNDERMINE THE
ELECTED PRESIDENT, THE VERY
FIRST ARTICLE I WROTE BEFORE
TRUMP WAS INAUGURATED IN JANUARY
"THE DEEP STATE GOES TO WAR WITH
THE ELECTED PRESIDENT."
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A
DEEP STATE THAT THE U.S. MEDIA
WAS CHEERING, THEY WERE THRILLED
THAT THESE GENERALS AND THEY
WERE HERALDING AS HEROES, FOR
IGNORING TRUMP’S ORDERS, FOR
KEEPING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
AWAY FROM HIM, FOR MANIPULATING
HIM, FOR SUBVERTING HIS
DECISIONS, THEY WERE CHEERING
THESE GENERALS AS SAVING US FROM
OUR ELECTED LEADER, WHICH IS THE
DEFINITION OF A DEEP STATE, AT
THE SAME TIME THAT THEY WERE
CALLING ANYONE WHO WAS POINTED
OUT THAT WE HAVE A
DEEP STATE, UNHINGED, CRAZY
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS.
THAT, TO ME, IS THE MOST
DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT OF THE
LAST FIVE YEARS, IS THAT
UNELECTED GENERALS AND
INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVES -- AND
THE MEDIA CHEERED, THE POWER TO
OVERRIDE OUR DEMOCRACY WHENEVER
THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS IN OUR
BEST INTEREST TO DO SO.
>> Tucker: AND THAT LEAVES THE
ENTIRE POPULATION POWERLESS.
YOUR VOTE DOESN’T MATTER, AND
THAT MAKES THE SOCIETY SUPER
VOLATILE AND DANGEROUS, AND I
AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
I USED TO LAUGH AT THE TERM "THE
DEEP STATE," BUT IT IS TOTALLY