>> SINGLE, BUT THERE'S A SPECIAL
LADY IN THE PICTURE.
>> IT'S STUNNING
>> HAVE YOU EVER HAD
INAPPROPRIATE PHYSICAL CONTACT
WITH ANOTHER MAN
>> NO.
>> SUCH A DAMN GOOD LIAR
>> TO YOU LIKE IT THIS WAY
>> ALL THIS PRETENDING
>> YOU'RING EVERYTHING TO MEE EV
>> IF I WAS EVERYTHING, YOU
WOULDN'T BE GOING WHERE YOU'RE
>> YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL,
EVERYBODY
LIES ABOUT SOMETHING.
>> WE MUST BE AWARE OF THESE
COMMUNIST QUEERS.
>> THESE PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS TO
THIS COUNTRY.
>> I LOOK OUT AT THAT CITY AND
THINK ABOUT WHAT IT DENIES US.
>> NOT WHO WE SLEEP WITH, IT'S
WHOE WE LOVE.
>> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE
WITH ANOTHER MALE?NO
>> I HAVE LOVED YOU MY WHOLE
LIFE.
MY GREAT CONSUMING LOVE.
>> MR. FULLER, ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
>> THAT IS A LOOK AT THE NEW
SHOWTIME LIMITED SERIES, FELLOW
TRAVELERS.
THE EIGHT EPISODE HISTORICAL TRA
MA TRACING THE ROMANTIC
RELATIONSHIP OF A WASHINGTON
D.C. BUREAUCRAT, AND TIM LAFLIN
WHO WORKS FOR SENATOR JOE
McCARTHY DURINGJO THE LAVENDER
SCARE OF THE 1950s WHEN GAY MEN
AND WOMEN WORKING FOR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WERE SEEN AS A NATIONAL SECURITYGO RISK.
A NATIONAL SECURITYGO RISK.
JOINING US MATT BOMER AND JON
JONATHAN BAILEY.
SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> LAVENDER SKAERCARE, A LOT OF
PEOPLE MIGHT NOTCA BE FAMILIAR
WITH IT.
WHAT WAS IT EXACTLY?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT.
IT'S BASICALLY A 1953, I
BELIEVE, SENATOR McCARTHY AND
ROY COHEN CONVINCED EISENHOWER
TO PUT IN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
THAT BANNED ALL GAY PEOPLE FROM
GOVERNMENT, SO IT TURNED INTO A
WITCH HUNT, AN ESTIMATED 10,000
PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, MULTIPLE
PEOPLE TOOK THEIR LIVES.
SO IT WAS A DARK CHAPTER IN OUR
HISTORY.
>> AND JONATHAN, HOW DOES YOUR
CHARACTER PLAY INTO ALL THIS AND
OFF OF HIS?
>> WELL, IT'S HIM, HE'S I THINK
THROUGH THE EYES OF TIM YOU
ENTER THE WORLD, AND HE MEETS
HAWK AND HE HAS A SORT OF
CHEMICAL AWAKENING MEETING THIS
INCREDIBLE MAN THAT HE'S SO
BALLED OVER BY.
AND SO START THIS IS SWEEPING
LOVE STORY OF 30 YEARS, AND WITH
THAT IT'S SORT OF UNDERPINNED
WITH AN AMAZING FORENSIC SORT OF
STUDY OF QUEER LIBERATION AND
HOW THE WORLD AROUND THESE TWO
CHARACTERS INFORMS THEIR CHOICES
AND THEIR BRUTAL SORT OF
EXISTENCE.
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S SO
INTERESTING, WHEN YOU -- I
REMEMBER READING SANDRA DAY
O'CONNOR'S OBIT, RIGHT, AND
HERE'S A WOMAN, OBVIOUSLIED
SMARTEST WOMAN IN HER CLASS, THE
SMARTEST WOMAN IN HER TIME.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND MOVE AND
THEY OFFER HER A SECRETARY'S
JOB, AND SHE'S LIKE, NO THANKS,
I'LL RAISE MY KIDS.
YOU SIT THERE GOING WHAT WORLD
IS THAT.
I REMEMBER THINKING THE SAME
THING AT THE END OF THE
IMITATION GAME.
EXTRAORDINARY MOVIE.
WAIT A SECOND, BUCK BASICALLY
TORTURED, JAILED, LIKE THERE
WAS -- WE EVER HAD THAT WORLD,
AND HERE WE SEE IT UNFOLD.
IT'S GOING TO BE SO SHOCKING TO
SO MANY PEOPLE.
I BRING UP SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY WOMEN
THAT HAVE LED THE WAY TO WHERE
WOMEN ARE TODAY AND YOUNGER
WOMEN MAY NOT UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT SO MANY WENT THROUGH.
IT'S THE SAME THING HERE WHERE
PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA, LIKE YOU
SAID, ABOUT THE LAVENDER SCARE.
JUST WHAT IT MEANT TO BE A GAY
MAN IN THE 1950s, AND HOW YOUR
LIFE, YOUR LIBERTY, EVERYTHING
COULD BE AT RISK.
>> YEAH, AND ALSO I THINK IT'S
SUCH A RECENT HISTORY, AND IT'S
SO SHOCKING TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
BUT OF COURSE THERE ARE SO MANY
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO LIVE
UNDER THAT SORT OF OPPRESSION,
AND THAT'S WHY IT'SOR SO RELEVAN
TODAY, AND I THINK THERE'S
THEMES IN IT, WHICH ARE
UNIVERSAL, I THINK.
BUT GAY PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
FIGHTING ANDNK THIS IS A BRILLIA
LIKE BEAUTIFUL OF SHOWING THAT,
I THINK.
>> THAT'S STILL THE REALITY IN
LARGE PARTS OF THE WORLD.
>> SADLY, YES.
YEAH.
>> YOU KNOW, MATT AND JONATHAN,
IT'S INTERESTING IN THIS TIKTOK
AGE THAT WE LIVE IN TO REALIZE
THAT WELL BEFORE TIKTOK, SOMEHOW
AMERICANS IN AMERICA AS A WHOLE
CONTRACTED AMNESIA ABOUT SO MUCH
THAT IS HISTORY.
IN TERMS OF HISTORY, 1953 IS A
SNAP OF A FINGER, AND YET
GENERAL EISENHOWER, WHO WAS IN
CHARGE OFEI D-DAY AND WORLD WAR
WAS A COWARD AT FIRST IN
CONFRONTING THE McCARTHY'S OF
THAT ERA.
IT'S JUST FASCINATING TO BRING
WILL THIS BACK TO LIGHT NOW
TODAY WHEN PEOPLE WILL SEE IT
AND THINK, IS THIS FICTION?
DID THIS REALLY HAPPEN?
BUT IT ALL DID.
>> I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
TO LOOK BACK AT THE TIMES WHEN
OUR FEARS GOT THE BETTER OF US
SO THAT WE DON'T REPEAT THOSE
MISTAKES GOING FORWARD.
>> AND THIS GOES -- IT'S THE
'50s.
IT GOES, THOUGH, DOESN'T IT GO
THROUGH THE '70s?
>>UG YES, IT'S FOUR DECADES.
>> YEAH, IT ENDS IN SAN
FRANCISCO IN THE '80s, SO
IT'S -- IIN MEAN, IT'S LIKE THE WAY WE WERE.
WAY WE WERE.
IT'S A DECADE LOVE STORY.
IT'S THE GAY WE WERE.
>> FANTASTIC.
>> ARE YOU SINGING?
ARE YOU DOING THE STREISAND
THING?
>> NO.
>> WHEN IT COMES --
>> WHISPERING IN MY EAR.
>> WELL, OF COURSE THE LINE,
THOUGH, THAT'S DRAWN THROUGH
THERE IS ROY COHN IN THE 1950s,
OF COURSE A GUY THAT'S GOING OUT
PROSECUTING, PERSECUTING GAY
MEN, THE GUY WHO IN THE 1980s
DIES OF AIDS.
>> BUT DENIES IT FAMOUSLY.
>> DENIES IT.
AND NONE OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP
WENT FROM BEING A FRIEND AND
ALLYIE OF HIS TO ABANDONING HIM.
>> HIS MAIN AKCOLYTE FOR MANY AN
YEARS.
>> THIS IS GREAT, VERY EXCITING.
THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH FOR
BEING WITH US.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.
>> "FELLOW TRAVELERS" NOW
AVAILABLE TO STREAM ON PARAMOUNT
PLUS AND SHOWTIME.
MATT BOMER AND JONATHAN.