before you step into a third party
encounter you better understand the
potential danger you face thanks for
joining us on today's active self
protection lesson I'm your host John
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link in the description there's a lot of
people in this one so let's identify our
actors this lady right here is our
victim she's approaching these teens
because she thinks at least one of them
knows somebody who stole her cell phone
so that's the news story if you go read
the news story please do linked in the
description there's all kinds of
information there that she feels like
that that guy in the red hat either is
one of the ones who stole her phone or
knows who did so then he pushes her
because she's you know a little bit yeah
you do you know that guy and he's angry
about it so he pushes her there and that
doesn't kind of tip her off that I need
to get the heck out of here she will
kind of go and again this is Black
Friday it's a little bit later it's busy
he's clearly upset that she would
insinuate that he you know was part of
that it's gonna push her again so now
we're gonna have to stop it one more
time because a bunch of people are gonna
come overnight see this guy in the jean
jacket right here is an off-duty
California Highway Patrol officer I
don't know if the officer is armed or
not but he has not been identified
beyond his first name in any of the news
stories that I've read so you gonna see
him get her away okay fine let's not
escalate this situation and he is gonna
try to get her away from those guys now
something important is about to go down
here as they're kind of walking off and
getting things away you're gonna see the
officer get his cell phone out here and
start taking a few pictures of these
teens so he's gonna get some pictures of
these kids and when the lady there the
girl recognizes it then the guy who is
the original there he gets real upset
you see him take the hat off here and
now he's pissed so he's gonna come back
over towards the officer and now the
fight is on he takes a swing at him here
because he's offended and now a bunch of
his buddies are gonna come in as well
they run off screen look up the top now
they're gonna run back around towards
them as well you're gonna
he's got at least seven people who are
after him now you can see as well that
there is some security there are even
going to be some on-duty officers who
are going to show up here who are
working at another business nearby but
they are gonna absolutely pummel this
off-duty and you're gonna see him here
get and in entangled with one of them
and then that's gonna bring six or seven
with still again security around to see
what's going on and they're gonna get
this guy down and stomp him unconscious
now he does lose consciousness at some
point as they come in and go out you see
the officer come in to kind of get that
one guy off of them and security finally
gets them off of this guy but they are
able to kind of get away as they're
trying to get this guy and figure out
what conscious you know if he's hurt bad
or whatever he is lying unconscious on
the floor right now you can see all
these kids are just scattering now all
these are all teenagers that have just
been gathering here at the mall and and
this broke out that fast now you're
gonna see our off-duty officer is going
to finally come to here in just a second
and I wish I could say that it's
completely over at this point they roll
them to kind of get him to a better spot
and he's gonna finally kind of groggily
get up and regain his bearing and his
consciousness and when he does they want
some more of him and so he's back out he
gets punched in from behind again and
you're gonna see him go off camera a
little bit we're not done yet friends
he's gonna finally come back on camera
here a little bit from the left and
again there's gonna be even more bad
juju going on here as you can see all
these guys causing that particular
challenge you're gonna see him come back
as this guy wants to fight him some more
you could see him bowing up like he's
ready to fight he's got his elbows up
like he wants to go and our off-duty
officers not really having it when this
other guy and a white shirt comes he
actually pepper sprays him right there
drives that guy off that gets the rest
of them to go away last I heard police
arrested two of these kids and the other
four are still at large and they're
still looking for him
boy that is crazy dangerous stuff I got
a question for you out of today's video
leave me a comment let me know what's
your ethics of stepping into third party
encounters are you like nope
not my circus not my monkeys or you like
nope I'm a self defender for a reason
and I'll step in and help the
defenseless I think it's an interesting
question I'm interested in your answers
let's think about lessons now so yeah
there is an awful lot for us to think of
out here and you can see them I've
started a little bit further in when
they're already yipping at her and you
can see they're aggressive they're
frustrated the guy in the the white
sweatshirt and the Red Hat has already
pushed her a couple times so this is
escalated already into a physical
conflict at this point best thing to do
at this point call cops get the heck out
of there there's no sense in in having a
conflict with an aggravated person like
this the this is just the better thing
to do here is escape and evade this
problem get on the phone with 911 borrow
somebody else's cell phone going to
store whatever call the cops let the
cops come and figure it out now you're
not in this kind of conflict now if you
are this officer who decides to step in
number one recognize the potential cost
of stepping in against a bunch of folks
whenever you step into a third party
encounter you have risk now everybody
gets to set their own moral compass on
this some people say nope I'm not gonna
get involved whatever it's not my circus
not my monkeys other people say no I'm a
self defender for a reason I need to
protect the good people and I'm gonna do
that whatever one you decide to go with
I think is acceptable but you better
know what your answer is ahead of time
best thing here get her away and get
again get let get the on-duty guys there
and let them handle it and I think
officer did a pretty good job of that
here hey let me get you away from this
problem let me get you away from these
guys I get it that it's a problem but I
want you to be safe
so de-escalating great idea being a good
witness also a great idea but recognize
when you stay in their proximity and you
don't get out of the danger zone you can
have challenges and that's exactly what
we see here he gets his phone out starts
taking pictures and that one girl sees
that and gets angry about it she's like
oh he's taking pictures of you and now
the real fight is on now I gotta say we
do know that the officer is carrying
pepper spray and we know that this is
all pre indicators here of a big fight
is coming so right now you need to have
that OC spray in hand you know we call
it the jerk sauce for a reason when
someone's being a jerk and there is an
incipient or a coming physical conflict
that is the time for OC spray OC spray
is not good when somebody swing and
punches at you but when they're
threatening the swing punches at you and
getting that jerk sauce out and hosing
this guy down and saying nope I'm not
gonna fight with you man and then having
some more for any of his partners who
want to fight at the very least
diminishes them and gives you a much
better but you know possibility before
this escalates into this big deadly
force problem now's the time to have
that OC spray out and going rather than
trying to figure out what you're doing
because by this time that he's getting
hands on you it's too late if you wanted
to get out your OC spray too late you're
in the midst of a fight now you've got
six or seven guys chasing you like this
guy does and all this bad stuffs going
on great time to get that firearm out
and start protecting yourself is this a
risk of death or great bodily harm
absolutely and when you have a little
distance at a time because by this time
you've got six or seven people around
you they've got a hold of your hands
your arms those kinds of things and
there is no way you're gonna get a
firearm out even if you are carrying
like I said I don't know if the officer
was carrying off-duty some don't
especially in California I know several
cops who don't carry off-duty in
California which is insane to me but
whatever and and if they even if he was
though at this point with this many guys
on them there's no way if you try to get
a gun out right now one of those guys is
gonna take it away from you and probably
use it against you so know those timing
problems and make sure that you have
them now then is this a deadly threat
unequivocally yes you got six or seven
guys here but notice your back stops and
those kinds of things and really
honestly against six or seven guys I
don't know anybody who's got that kind
of Bruce Lee level of empty handed
skills that's gonna handle this kind of
fight notice there's like four people
trying to break this up and it's not
gonna happen so I know folks again in
this kind of mindset where they're like
oh I can handle all these guys and I've
got great boxing skills or whatever but
when you start facing five or six angry
people there's really nothing you're
gonna do and I say that as somebody who
literally studies all the time now
notice that he is out in this instance
so was this great bodily harm yeah they
knocked him out for sure and of course
we got to ask the question wait what are
the police gonna do about this so there
were on duty cops around but even with
that on-duty cops around who did show up
and end up breaking up the fight it
still didn't save him from injury so I
would recommend and recognize that you
are responsible for your own self
protection even on Black Friday even
with armed security and armed police
around even with a heavy police presence
they weren't able to get this one
completely taken care of without you
know without him getting hurt because
he's gonna get punched again here so you
are the primary agent in your own
self-protection and you must have the
attitude skills and plan to do so final
thing again as this guy comes in you
notice here he finally is going to get
his OC spray out in in
his hand and and eventually get this guy
with the OSI but it's too late notice
this guy here he's got his hands up he
wants to go right now
again now's the time you're gonna
diminish him he wants to kind of flex on
you now's the time to get him with the
hot sauce and get him to stay away from
you and at least diminish him and his
ability to see because waiting until he
gets on you just doesn't work
tons of lessons that we need to learn
out of this one about de-escalation
escape and avoidance about stepping into
third party encounters about the danger
that a group especially just an angry
group who is feels offended can be to
you and about when the right time to use
what tool is as we think about covering
our ass