WHILE ALSO IN PRACTICE NOT
ACTUALLY DOING THAT.
>> YEAH, BUT CLEARLY NOT DOING
THAT.
YOU KNOW, JASON IT STRIKES ME
THERE WERE TWO KINDS OF
REPUBLICANS IN THAT CHAMBER
TODAY.
THERE WERE THE REPUBLICANS WHO
SAW WHAT THEY SAW AND HEARD WHAT
THEY HEARD AND EXPERIENCED THE
1789S/6 INSURRECTION AND VOTED
ACCORDINGLY.
AND THE KIND MAKING POLITICAL
CALCULATION TO CLING TO DONALD
TRUMP LIKE A LIFE BUOY OPINION.
AND THEY WOULDN’T HAVE LET HIM
GO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED TO
MIKE PENCE.
THEY WOULDN’T CARE.
LET’S GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF
TYPE AP RICHARD BURR WHO WAS A
SURPRISE.
THIS WAS HIS STATEMENT ON HIS
VOTE TO CONVICT.
HE SAID THE EVIDENCE IS
COMPELLING THAT TRUMP IS GUILTY
OF INCITING AN INSURRECTION
AGAINST A CO-EQUAL BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT AND THAT THE CHARGE
RISES TO THE LEVEL OF HIGH
CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.
BY WHAT HE DID AND DID NOT DO,
TRUMP VIOLATED HIS OATH OF
OFFICE TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND
DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE
UNITED STATES.
AND NOW LET’S LISTEN TO SENATOR
BILL CASSIDY MORE BLUNT AND
DIRECT ABOUT IT.
>> OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR
COUNTRY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN
ANY ONE PERSON.
I VOTED TO CONVICT PRESIDENT
TRUMP BECAUSE HE IS GUILTY.
>> BURR IS NOT RUNNING FOR
RE-ELECTION.
MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS HIM CASSIDY
JUST WON RE-ELECTION HE HAS SIX
YEARS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO
TRUMPIES IN HIS STATE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE SEVEN,
JASON, THE ONES WHO VOTED TO
CONVICT IN DO YOU THINK THAT
THIS IN ANY WAY CHANGES THE
OVERCOME OUTCOMES FOR THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
>> IT CHANGES THE OUTCOME, JOY,
FROM THE SYMBOLIC AND MESSAGING
STANDPOINT, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT
THE SECOND PART OF THE TRIAL IS
ABOUT.
WHAT I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE ARE TWO
GOALS WITH IMPEACHMENT.
ONE WAS TO GET A CONVICTION AND
KEEP DONALD TRUMP FROM RUNNING
FOR OFFICE.
BUT THE OTHER WAS TO HAMMER IN
THE MESSAGE TO AMERICAN PUBLIC
THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS
BEEN DISCREDITED AS A POTENTIAL
GOVERNING COALITION FOR IN
COUNTRY SO HAVING SEVEN
REPUBLICANS SAYING THIS IS BAD,
THE FACT THEY TRIED TO KILL MY
COLLEAGUES IS BAD.
THE FACT THAT EWE NENE GOODMAN
IS THE ONLY REASON MITT ROMNEY
MIGHT BE ALIVE TODAY IS BAD.
MAYBE WE SHOULD VOTE THIS GUY
OUT OF OFFICE.
IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
REPUBLICANS, IS THERE A
DIFFERENCE TO ME, BE NO IT’S A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COWARDS AND
WEASELS, CATS AND DOGS.
IT’S NOT THAT THAT MUCH
DIFFERENTIAL.
SO MANY REPUBLICANS INCLUDING
ONES VOTING FOR CONVICTION TODAY
VOTED WITH DONALD TRUMP AND
JUSTIFIED SO MUCH OF HIS
NON-SENSE UP TO THIS POINT.
THEY WERE COMPLICIT IN BUILDING
THE MONSTERS THAT ONE DAY TRIED
TO EAT THEM.
I DON’T GIVE THEM TREMENDOUS
CREDIT.
I THINK THEY DID THE RIGHT AND
DECENT THING.
BUT THE MOMENT WE GET TO A POINT
WHERE AN AMERICAN PUBLIC WHERE
WE SAY DOING THE RIGHT AND
DECENT THING IS SOMETHING PEOPLE
SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR WE HAVE
GIVEN UP ON LET DEMOCRATIC
PROCESS.
I’M HAPPY SEVEN PEOPLE REALIZED
BEING MURDERED ON THE JOB IS
SOMETHING YOU DON’T LIKE.
BUT I DON’T GIVE CREDIT.
THESE PEOPLE MIGHT ALSO BE THE
ONLY ONES WHO CAN GETS SOME OF
THE FORTUNE 500 MONEY BECAUSE WE
HEARD THERE ARE LARGE
CORPORATIONS IF YOU VOTED
AGAINST IMPEACHMENT AND
CONVICTION IT MAY COST YOU NEXT
TIME YOU RUN.
>> I BELIEVE MITCH McCONNELL IS
ABOUT THAT.
EVERYTHING HE SAID HE WILL
CHANGE HIS MIND, THE MINUTE
SOMEBODY TRY THOUGH DIET TRUMP.
IT’S ABOUT THE DONORS.
CHARLEY SYKES, THE COUNTER TO
THAT IF UT YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE
GOOD BEHAVIOR.
PRAISE GOOD BEHAVIOR.
IF WE WANT REPUBLICANS WITH
SEOUL SOULS BACK IN THE BODY.
WE SHOULD SAY YOU HAVE A SOUL.
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.
AM I RIGHT OR JASON?
BECAUSE THEY DID ALONG WITH IT
BUT IF IN THE MOMENT THEY DID
THE RIGHT THING CAN PRAISING
GOOD BEHAVIOR ENCOURAGE MORE TO
SNATCH BACK THEIR SOULS?
>> WELL, EXACTLY.
WE DID A PODCAST WE FINISHED
WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
BILL CASSIDY SHOWED VOTES MAKING
THIS VOTE FROM LOUISIANA.
AND WHEN PEOPLE DO GOOD AND
DEESON THINGS IN THIS ERA WE
OUGHT TO PRAISE THEM.
BUT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY
EASY VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS
POLITICALLY AND SUBSTANTIVELY.
THE EVIDENCE WAS OVER WELCOME.
RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EASY VOTE TO
CONVICT.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EASY VOTE
BECAUSE THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TAKE THE OFF RAMP TO PLOV ON
FROM DONALD TRUMP.
INSTEAD THEY BASICALLY ENGAGED
IN JURY NULLIFICATION.
THE ONE THING LISTENING TO MITCH
McCONNELL NOBODY DURING THE
TRIAL OR AFTER THE TRIAL IS
PRAISING DONALD TRUMP’S
BEHAVIOR, OR DEFENDING DONALD
TRUMP’S BEHAVIOR.
THEY’RE HIDING BEHIND THE
CONSTITUTIONAL TECHNICALITY OR
PLAYING WHAT ABOUTISM.
BUT IT’S INTERESTING THE NUMBER
OF REPUBLICANS THAT ARE SAYING
THAT TRUMP’S MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
IMPEACHABLE BUT IT WAS
DISGRACEFUL.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE IS
THEY’RE OPENING THE DOOR TO A
POST TRUMP ERA.
LOOK, I’M NOT DEFENDING MITCH
McCONNELL.
I MEAN, THE FACT THAT
ORCHESTRATED THIS, HE COULD HAVE
HAD THE TRIAL BEFORE DONALD
TRUMP LEFT OFFICE.
HE CHOSE NOT TO.
AND THEN HE POINTED TO THAT AS A
TAKELETY.
I MEAN, HE WAS VERY VERY MUCH
TWO-FACED.
BUT IT’S INTERESTING THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE WHO IMPLIED THAT, YOU
KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE END, THAT
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT
SHOULD HAPPEN.
WE SHOULD HAVE 9/11 COMMISSION.
A BIPARTISAN 9/11 COMMISSION.
THERE SHOULD BE GRAND JURY,
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS,
POSSIBLY INDICTMENTS.
SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
WHAT COMES NEXT.
BUT THIS WAS A DEFINING VOTE FOR
43 REPUBLICANS.
IT’S A DCHG VOTE FOR A PARTY