So look, for a long time I’ve wanted to make a video talking all about Avengers 4,
cuz there are so many theories and ideas plot and character-wsie to talk about here.
I’ve decided to title this Avengers 4 predictions, cuz that seems to generally encompass what
I’m talking about, but unlike my other predictions videos, this will be a little more rambly
and just looking at different theories.
Not just straight forward, here’s what I think will happen, more of here are a bunch
of ideas that people have speculated on and some I’ve come up with myself, these ones
seem more plausible than others.
Cuz this movie is surprisingly still very shrouded in mystery at this point in time,
there is a lot to speculate on here.
I’ll talk a little about what I want to see, but more of that will probably come in
a later video.
So hey, let’s get into it.
Also obviously spoilers for Infinity War and Ant-Man and the Wasp and really the entire
MCU, and potential spoilers for Avengers 4, but again, these are only predictions, the
most spoilery thing I’ll be using are those set photos from like 5 months ago, but hey
just estimated guesses here.
So I think the biggest question might be....where will Avengers 4 pick up time wise?
A lot of people have speculated that this could have a time jump in it, about 5 years
later or something like that.
That….sounds like it could happen.
I think we’ll see the more immediate aftermath of the snap at the start, how Tony gets back
to Earth, how the Avengers meet up, and then it’ll take a hard cut to 5 years later,
where we see how the Avengers and the population of Earth have been dealing with the world
now.
Now the rest of this video is working off the assumption that there’s a 5 year time
jump, but really, the rest of this can more or less work if it happens right afterwards.
I just feel like putting in a title card that says 5 years later gives Marvel more of a
way to say, see the snap did have lasting effects, these heroes and the people had to
live like this for a long time even if we didn't see it, cuz when they reverse these
changes (and I think they will, we’ll get to that), I think that’ll be a major criticism.
So a time jump allows them to say that their movies do have stakes and this did have a
big lasting impact.
I imagine now post-snap the world is a post-apocalyptic type world, not quite Mad Max but you get
what I mean.
Society and the government and what not have all crumbled, it's just every man for himself.
I imagine we’ll get a montage of the Avengers all looking sadly over memories of those who
died (which will probably be in the trailer), like Tony looking at the Iron Spider suit
or Cap looking at an old Bucky arm or something like that.
If this is set 5 years later, it’s probably not because the Avengers are just slacking
but because they’ve needed this much time to salvage certain weapons or tech or something
in order to fight Thanos, or to come up with a plan.
It’s now the original Avengers plus Rocket and Nebula and Okoye and maybe M’Baku.
A big question around this film is Hawkeye, who apparently from here on out is gonna be
Ronin?
But for now I’m just gonna keep calling him Hawkeye.
Like a lot of people, I think his reason for leaving retirement again is his entire family
being killed by Thanos.
Cuz personally I actually think they did a decent job of fleshing Hawkeye out more in
Age of Ultron, I know not everyone loved that subplot but personally it made me care a lot
more about him, so that seems like a good a reason as any for hiimt o come back.
I think the way it could be done is the Avengers travel over to Hawkeye’s farm to see if
he’s ok and they just walk in and see him crouching in the shadows surrounded by dust
or something like that.
Then he gets a suit upgrade and i guess can help the Avengers against this Titan that
beat up the Hulk….yeah we’ll see how he factors into this.
Another character who's gonna play a big role in this apparently is Captain Marvel, so let’s
talk a little about that.
The biggest question around her character, since her movie is gonna be set in the 90s,
is where has she been since the 90s, why hasn’t she been helping Earth?
Well, I think the MCU has a huge advantage here, which is it is literally a universe,
stretching infinity galaxies and dimensions, so they can very easily say that she wa off
defending any number of other planets in that time in different galaxies or maybe even different
dimensions.
Why hasn’t she come back every other time a major disaster was happening on Earth?
Well, I think Captain Marvel is gonna end with her talking to Fury, and being like hey
Earth is just a tiny spec in the grand scheme of the universe that I’m going out to protect,
but you’ve been nice and I’m sort’ve attached to this planet, so here’s a one-time
redeem only distress call that you should press when you absolutely need me.
I don’t think Fury could’ve called her more than once, so being the smart guy he
is he wasn’t gonna do it when he thought that team still had a chance.
He waited until he was literally disappearing from reality to call her, and now she’ll
come to help the Avengers.
Apparently she’s gonna be the strongest character we’ve ever seen in the MCU, considering
how strong these characters are already, that might be making her a little too overpowered?
Like if you have Thor and someone stronger than him on a team, you’re pretty much guaranteed
to win right?
But hey maybe they’ll find a way to nerf her.
Now, as far as just little moments throughout the movie, I think there’s going to be an
awesome moment where one of the Avengers yields the Infinity Gauntlet.
Who that would be, I’m not sure, but I think there's a good chance it could be Hawkeye.
No but really, I think it’ll be either Cap, Tony, or Captain Marvel.
Captain Marvel we haven’t seen yet so I don’t know if that would be as cool, but
hey after her solo movie it might be, and of the team she seems like one of the few
who would be powerful enough to wield it.
And Cap and Tony have proven stronger than previously thought, so there might be some
way in which they could wear it too.
And be honest, the image of Captain America or Iron Man triumphantly putting on the Infinity
Gauntlet does sound kind of amazing doesn't it.
I also think there’s going to be a really epic moment after the dead heroes return where
Thanos like slowly turns around and the Guardians of the Galaxy are all standing there ready
for battle along with the newly resurrected Avengers, and who knows maybe even the old
Avengers for one last battle, and they all charge with the theme blasting and god that
would be so cool.
Nwo you’ll notice I said the newly resurrected heroes, and that’s cuz I do not believe
that Marvel is not gonna reverse this change.
They said these heroes are dead permanently, but I don’t buy that.
Look, if somehow they do manage to pull that off, this video will age really poorly, like
all those videos of people saying, they would never kill off any major characters in Infinity
War.
But no, I think these guys are coming back.
And it’s not just cuz they’re big characters and they’ve got sequels and they’re popular
and everything, it's because of what this did to the universe.
Not just the heroes were killed, half the beings in the universe, which means the Earth
is screwed, not just without half it's humans but without half its animals?
Losing half the bees alone I’m assuming would mess up something with the world.
So Earth is now just this post apocalyptic mess, and for all we know so are 99% of the
other planets in the universe.
So if Marvel wants to continue to just make normal movies that aren’t either prequels
or set in post-apocalyptic world (which as cool as that ocul be for one Marvel movie,
all of them going forward, no thanks), then they’re going to have to reverse this in
some way.
And I think that was Doctor Strange’s plan in Infinity War all along, in fact, I’m
sure it was Doctor Strange’s plan in Infinity War all along.
When he sees that future, all of this happened.
We’ve only seen the first part of that future, where Thanos wins.
It's like the halfway point, the actual victory comes later.
Star Lord was supposed to screw up the plan, Doctor Strange would give him the time stone,
vision would die, and Thor would miss the head.
Now, how do they win from here?
Well, there are a few options that I think Strange might’ve seen.
Firstly, the big one: time travel.
Now I was initially totally behind this because of those set photos, I was like time travel,
absolutely.
But then the Russos said something about some tech from Civil War returning, and I was like,
oh no it's just that BARF tech that Tony used to recreate his old memories.
Mabe the Avengers wanna go back to past battles to look at what they did wrong.
But then I thought, nah this has to have time travel.
Not just cuz that would be an awesome premise for a movie, but they’ve hinted at it repeatedly
in the last few movies and they’ve said the last movie broke our hearts, this one
will blow our minds, and yeah, I think time travel would do that.
I’m not saying this scene is 100% time travel, but I think it might be.
And if not, then I think there’ll be some kind of time travel somewhere else in his
movie.
That being said, most of the rest of this video is based on the assumption that there
is time travel in this, so if it turns out there isn’t, then this whole video will
be a giant swing and a miss.
I mean I used to think this movie was gonna be secret invasion.
But hey, let’s hope there's something here.
Now look, they’ve already shown that you can bring people back to life with the time
stone, but those were people who had died relatively recently and also this isn't to
bring people back, this is to restore the world and universe, which I don’t think
the time stone could do, not at least without some very major repercussions.
Also, I don’t think the time stone has like classic time travel powers where you can just
instantly teleport to six years prior, but then again I also didn't know it could let
you see the future, but hey, whatever.
Main point is, I don’t think they use the time stone.
Also Thanos has it and he’s off god knows where, so that complicates things.
I think this is where Ant-Man comes in.
Now if you haven’t seen Ant-Man and the Wasp, the post credits scene leaves Scott
Lang trapped inside the Quantum Realm after Thanos snaps.
Now I think he’s gonna get out of that pretty quickly, cuz even though no one can help him
out on the outside, he got out once before using a pretty simple and easy to think of
method, so I imagine he must’ve packed one of those again just in case.
The thing is though, right before he went in and I’ve only seen Ant-Man and the Wasp
once so I’m sorry that I don’t have the exact quote, but Janet says something about
getting caught in a time loop or a time vortex or something inside the Quantum Realm.
And that made me think, before Scott gets out, he’s probably gonna get involved with
some kind of time something down there before putting in the enlarger disc (which yes, I’m
aware that isn't it's actual name).
Now this is very much just a theory and could be totally wrong, but if there’s a time
jump in this movie, I think it might be because of this.
Scott pops out of the Quantum Realm only minutes after he entered for himself, but the outside
world has moved on five years since then.
Kind of Interstellar-ish if you know what I mean.
Then he discovers what’s happened with the world, meets up with the remaining Avengers,
and they discover through Scott that there is actually a way to time travel and stop
Thanos another way without any of the stones, through the Quantum Realm, and that’s when
they kick back into gear.
It could also not be 5 years later but point is they now use the Quantum Realm
to stop Thanos.
How would Doctor Strange know about this you may ask?
He’s been studying these giant books about all the dimensions and types of magic and
science in the world for like a year now, he’s bound to know if this place has any
time travel possibilities.
So as far as what could happen after that, I’m not entirely sure.
And again, i don’t wanna make any predictions too grand based on this premise that could
very very easily not happen.
But if they do time travel, seeing the Avengers going back to the different MCU movies would
just be so cool, and totally work because of how elaborately and carefully this universe
has been set up.
If you wanna hear more of my thoughts on that specifically you can watch this video.
But yeah, seeing them go back to the first Avengers, Thor 2, Guardians, really anywhere
where the Infinity Stones pop up and either stealing them or learning about them or something
in order to stop the snap from happening, I would asbotelu love that.
A time traveling heist adventure through my favorite film franchise, sounds perfect.
This could also restore the world and universe to how it was and afterwards they defeat Thanos
and the dead heroes come back, or another possibility is the use of dimensions, which
the MCU has also been introducing over the past few years.
I think this could happen instead of the time travel or it could happen along with the time
travel, where the Avengers in their time travelling adventures actually leave the dimension that
all these MCU movies have been set in in it's terrible post snap state and move to a different
dimension where they can restore the world and bring back those dead characters and everything’s
fine.
I think Marvel would do this cuz a) this gives them a chance to bring back the heroes and
the universe while still saying, well technically they did stay dead cuz that dimension is still
feeling the repercussions from the snap, b) it explains why Kevin Fiege recently said
that Avengers 4 would be a definitive end to this part of the MCU, if you leave behind
literally the universe that these movies have been set in up until now to go to another
one that's basically the same, then yeah, I guess that counts as an end for this universe
and c) a good chance to kill off or get rid of the original Avengers as I think they’ll
do.
The original Avengers maybe open up this new dimension with the same universe as ours in
it only they’ve been going through it time travelling and figuring out how to beat Thanos,
and then basically the events of Infinity War play out again only this time they can
beat him.
However, in order to keep this new dimension open or something like that, all the original
Avengers or at least most of them have to die or stay behind in the old ruined dimension
or something like that.
If they don’t die and just stay back, that could also give Marvel a chance to bring them
back down the line if they wanted to.
But point is, I think we’ll be leaving this dimension thanks to the old Avengers thanks
to a new one where the new Avengers and Guardians are, where the Guardians can still go on space
adventures, where Peter Parker can still go to high school, etc. etc.
Also yeah I’m pretty sure Gamora, Vision, and Loki are staying permanently dead, sorry.
Anyway, all this is a bit far fetched and maybe none of this will actually happen and
I’ve gotten everything wrong, but it's fun to speculate.
Oh also final prediction for not the movie but the trailer, which again, I’m gonna
see if I can avoid entirely, if it doesn't end with this line, then I don’t know what
you’re doing Marvel.
So those were my what will happen in Avengers 4.
What do you think will happen?
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