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WELCOME BACK.
TO "THE LATE SHOW."
WITH ME.
ON CBS.
HEY, EVERYBODY, THANKS SO MUCH.
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PEABODY AND EMMY AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST WHO'S
BEEN REPORTING FOR FOUR DECADES.
NOW SHE'S WRITTEN A MEMOIR CALLED "GOING THERE."
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," KATIE COURIC!
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IT'S AWFULLY NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK, KATIE COURIC.
>> THANK YOU, WOW, THIS PLACE IS CROWDED!
GOOD FOR YOU!
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>> THAT'S AWESOME.
>> Stephen: WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.
HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
>> I'M GOOD.
I'M REALLY GOOD.
I HAVE TO SAY HI TO THE BAND.
HI, GUYS.
HOW ARE YOU?
NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> Stephen: THAT'S A PRO RIGHT THERE.
KNOWS TO SAY HI TO THE BAND.
THEY KNOW WHO THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE ON STAGE.
>> WELL, HONESTLY--
>> Stephen: CATHERINE COURIC.
>> YES, STEVE.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE WRITTEN A NEW MEMOIR SELENA GOMEZ.
>> I HAVE.
>> YOU SPILL THE TEA ON LES MOONVES, LARRY KING, MARTHA
STEWART, VARIOUS EX-BOYFRIENDS.
>> I'VE BECOME THE TAYLOR SWIFT OF MEMOIRESES, I THINK.
>> Stephen: AND YOU DON'T SPARE YOURSELF.
YOU THROW A COUPLE OF BRICKS AT YOUR OWN HOUSE.
WHY PUT IT ALL OUT THERE, KATIE?
>> WHY NOT.
>> Stephen: SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'VE HAD A FULFILLING
CAREER THEY END UP WRITING A BOOK ABOUT THEMSELVES TO MAKE
THEM LOOK FANTASTIC AT ALL TIMES.
>> AND ISN'T THAT BORING, STEPHEN?
I WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT A FULL PERSON, WHO IS COMPLICATED,
WHO IS NOT A CARICATURE OF AMERICA'S SWEETHEART, THAT HAS
OPINIONS, THAT HAS HAD EXPERIENCES, AND HAS FLAWS AND
STRENGTHS AND, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE, IT WOULD BE SO
BORING, RIGHT?
>> Stephen: HOW EARLY DID YOU WANT TO BE A REPORTER?
BECAUSE I HAVE A PHOTO OF YOU HERE, RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A
YOUNG KATIE COURIC.
I'M GOING TO GUESS YOU'RE-- >> PEOPLE THINK THAT'S A
HEADBAND.
IT'S ACTUALLY A HAT.
I'M ON MY WAY TO GIRL SCOUT CAMP I THINK IN FOURTH GRADE IN THAT
PICTURE.
I DON'T KNOW, I THINK I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPER OBSERVANT.
I WROTE IN MY LITTLE FOURTH GRADE DIARY THAT IS THIS
CLOTH-COVERED PAISLEY DIARY ALL ABOUT WHEN THE THREE ASTRONAUTS,
DIED ON THE LAUNCH PAD IN 1968, I BELIEVE.
>> Stephen: APOLLO ONE.
>> YES.
AND I ALSO USED TO DO MOCK-UP NEWSPAPERS.
AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN UBER EXPROVERTED AND I THINK ALL OF
THOSE THINGS COMBINED MADE A CAREER IN JOURNALISM, SUPER
NOSEY AND CURIOUS, MADE IT MADE FOR ME.
>> Stephen: YOU SAY JANE PAULEY WAS A ROLE MODEL FOR YOU.
WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU MET HER?
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAD SIMILAR JOBS.
>> WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK-- >> Stephen: IT WOULD BE LIKE
ME TAKING OVER FOR LETTERMAN.
>> COME ON.
REALLY!
I LIVED IN THIS TOWN HOUSE IN GEORGETOWN, AND MY FRIEND WENDY,
WHO IS ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS, STILL, ALL THESE YEARS
LATER, WE USED TO WATCH THE "TODAY" SHOW EVERY MORNING.
SHE HAD A LITTLE TV ON HER DESK IN THE BASEMENT-- SHE LIVED IN A
BASEMENT OF A TOWN HOUSE.
WE USED TO WATCH JANE.
AND SOMEHOW WHEN WE WORKED FOR CNN WHEN WE STARTED OUT--
EVERYBODY CALLED IT CHICKEN NOODLE NEWS.
WE GOT TICKETED TO THE RADIO AND OF IT CORRESPONDENTS' DINNER,
WHICH WAS A BIG DEAL.
WE WERE MAKING $11,000 A YEAR, BASICALLY GRUNTS.
WE WENT TO LOEHMAN'S -- >> Stephen: LOEHAM'S--M'S--
WE BOUGHT THESE DRESSES, AND SHE SAID, "THERE'S JANE PAULEY."
AND SHE WAS WALK IN.
SHE GOES, "I DARE YOU TO GO TOUCH HER."
SO OF COURSE I, LIKE, WALK UP TO JANE.
I KIND OF GRAYED HER TAFFETA GOWN WITH MY KNUCKLES.
AND WE WERE, LIKE, SO EXCITED, BECAUSE WE WORSHIPPED JANE
PAULEY.
>> Stephen: WOW.
>> AND THE IDEA THAT I ENDED UP IN THE SAME JOB THAT JANE PAULEY
HAD AND DID SO BEAUTIFULLY, IT WAS LIKE THAT MIND-BLOWN EMOJY.
REALLY.
>> Stephen: SURE.
>> IT WAS SO CRAZY.
>> Stephen: YOU END UP AT THE "TODAY" SHOW.
HAVE YOU WATCHED "THE MORNING SHOW."
>> I HAVE.
>> Stephen: IS IT LIKE THAT?
I DON'T MEAN LIKE PLOT POINT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IS IT LIKE THAT?
ARE THESE SHOWS A BAG OF SNAKES ALL FIGHTING EACH OTHER?
THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE, THE PERSONALITY CONFLICTS.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT STRUCK ME ABOUT "THE MORNING SHOW," THEY ARE ALL
( BLEEP ) CRAZY.
>> Stephen: THE SHOW IS.
>> THE SHOW.
EVERY CHARACTER IS CARRYING AROUND A LOT OF BAGGAGE.
THEY'RE ALL SUPER NEUROTIC.
IT'S, IT'S-- YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S EXAGGERATED, BUT THERE'S
SOME OF THAT.
>> Stephen: WHICH OF THE THREE MORNING SHOWS DO YOU THINK IS
CRAZIEST?
>> I THINK THEY'RE ALL CRAZY, BUT LESS CRAZY THAN THEY USED TO
BE.
I WRITE ABOUT HOW INTENSE THE COMPETITION WAS IN THE BOOKING
WARS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST FUN CHAPTERS TO WRITE ABOUT.
BECAUSE IT WAS SO INSANE WHEN I WAS ON THE "TODAY" SHOW, THE
BATTLE FOR THE BIG GETS.
PEOPLE WOULD CALL UP HOTEL ROOMS AND SAY, "ACTUALLY, THERE'S BEEN
A CHANGE OF PLANS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO "GOOD MORNING
AMERICA" FIRST AND THEN GO TO THE "TODAY" SHOW."
AND THE GUEST WOULD BE LIKE, OKAY.
AND THEY WOULD GO TO "GOOD MORNING AMERICA," AND THEY WOULD
HOLD THEM HOSTAGE IN THE GREEN ROOM AND THEY WOULD BE LAST TO
THE "TODAY" SHOW-- BY THE WAY, WE DID IT, TOO.
IT'S SO FUNNY TO ME THE LENGTHS WE WENT TO.
BUT NOW THE LANDSCAPE IS SO SPLINTERED.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, NEED SOMEONE LIKE
YOU TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT.
>> Stephen: OKAY, OKAY.
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>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
I'M SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
>> YOU HAVE TO PAY THE BILLS.
>> Stephen: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE KATIE COURIC,
EVERYBODY.