>> Judge Judy: Mr. and
Mrs. Gray, how long have you and
the Johnsons been neighbors?
>> Actually, we've been
neighbors with Bob for 20 years,
since 1997.
And then Janet came into the
picture in 2007, I believe.
>> Judge Judy: How long are you
together?
>> I moved in in '98.
>> Judge Judy: So a year after
Mr. Johnson moved in.
Who has cats?
>> They do.
>> Judge Judy: You have cats?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: How many?
>> We have two, and one decided
to live with us, so we adopted
him.
>> Judge Judy: So you have three
cats?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Did the
difficulty between you start
over the cats and some spikes
that were put up?
>> If I may, Your Honor, there
is a difficulty that we
discovered a pigeon spike trap
that they put on commercial
buildings to keep pigeons from
landing on rooftops.
My son and my wife, Tanya,
discovered the trap hidden
behind our shed, out of our
line of sight.
And I actually have pictures
of it.
I'm not sure if you have those.
>> Judge Judy: I don't have any
evidence.
>> I'd like to...
>> Judge Judy: When did you find
them?
>> It was June 3rd of 2016.
This is what we discovered
behind our shed, that was hidden
from our sight.
>> Judge Judy: Just a sec.
This was behind your shed?
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Did you put this up?
>> I did, Your Honor.
We had a possum problem.
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
On your property or their
property?
>> It's a joint fence.
It's a shared fence.
>> Judge Judy: So, you put up
these spikes because you had a
what problem?
>> Possum problem in the
neighborhood, and we were
worried about our dogs.
>> Judge Judy: What kind of dogs
do you have?
>> We have a Pomeranian and a
papillon.
>> Judge Judy: Small dogs?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Do you ever have
a problem with the Grays' cats?
>> Well, they'd come in our yard
all the time and lay on our
lounges and...
>> Get up on our roof.
>> Judge Judy: Shh-shh.
Just a sec.
Let's go slowly.
They come in your yard.
>> Quite frequently.
>> Judge Judy: And they park
themselves on your furniture.
>> Right.
>> Judge Judy: And?
>> It just happens.
We don't make a big issue
out of it.
It's not a big deal.
Sometimes our dogs get upset and
start barking and chasing them
around, but...
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Was this put up for possums or
to keep his cats on his side of
the property?
>> It had nothing to do with his
cats, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Here you go.
Would you return that to them,
please?
>> That's not true.
>> Judge Judy: Okay, did you
discuss this spiked -- why don't
you let me finish.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Did you discuss
these spikes with Mr. Johnson?
>> Well, first, we --
>> Judge Judy: The answer is
either "yes" or "no."
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: When?
>> When we took them down, after
I called the local police
department and asked them if it
was legal to put up.
>> Judge Judy: Just a sec.
The answer is, you took them
down?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Judge Judy: "Mm-hmm"
is not an answer.
"Yes" is an answer.
>> Correct, yes.
>> Judge Judy: Did you take them
down before or after you spoke
with Mr. Johnson?
>> Before.
>> Judge Judy: I'm not speaking
to you.
Are my eyes making contact
with you?
>> Sorry, ma'am.
>> Before.
>> Judge Judy: You took them
down before.
Now, this is a common fence,
correct?
>> Yes, it's shared
property-line fence.
>> Judge Judy: It's a shared
property-line fence.
And you would agree that your
cats don't belong on his
property?
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: Has Mr. Johnson
or Mrs. Johnson ever spoken to
you about your cats being on his
property?
>> Not until that day.
>> Judge Judy: Until what day?
>> The day that I took them
down, after I called the police.
>> Judge Judy: And tell me about
that conversation.
>> I called the police first
because I didn't believe it was
legal, and the police told me --
>> Judge Judy: No, no, listen
to me.
I'm not interested in what you
told the police and what the
police told you, because that's
hearsay.
>> Okay.
>> Judge Judy: I'm interested in
the conversation you had with
either Mr. or Mrs. Johnson,
who are present.
>> He came outside.
He saw me take it down.
He said, "You can't do that.
That's my property."
I said, "Bob, I'm taking them
down 'cause our cat has been
injured with a puncture wound,
and now I know how it happened."
>> Judge Judy: And he said?
>> And he said, "It's my
property.
You can't do that."
I said, "I've already called the
local police department."
>> Judge Judy: Okay --
>> "They said I could."
>> Judge Judy: You took it down?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Judge Judy: "Mm-hmm" is not
an answer.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Now, if you had this
conversation with him -- and
this was in June of 2016?
>> June 3, 2016.
>> Judge Judy: What efforts have
you made since, if any, to keep
your cats contained on your
property?
>> Anytime I see them over on
that side of our property, I
shoo them back towards the
garage or our side of the house.
>> Judge Judy: Then the answer
would be, "None."
The only way to keep cats on
your side of the property is to
keep them inside.