>> Martha: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE
TONIGHT.
ALSO JOINING ME NOW,
COREY LEWANDOWSKI FORMER
CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND
DONNA BRAZILE AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR JOINING US THIS
EVENING.
GOOD TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU HERE.
JUST TALKING WITH SIMONE SANDERS
TONIGHT, BOTH SIDES ARE PRESSING
VERY HARD ON THIS IMPEACHMENT
SCENARIO.
THE BIDENS ARE SAYING IT'S NOT
ABOUT US, IT'S ABOUT
PRESIDENT TRUMP, PRESIDENT TRUMP
SAYING IT'S NOT ABOUT US, IT'S
ABOUT THE BIDENS.
SAM DONALDSON THINKS A GOOD
CHUNK OF TRUMP SUPPORTER'S HAVE
NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON AND
DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF ANY OF
THIS ANYWAY -- WATCH THIS.
>> HE HAS 30, 31% HARD-CORE,
THEY WILL FOLLOW HIM TO HELL OR
WHATEVER HE'S GOING, THEY DON'T
CARE ABOUT THE FACTS, THEY ARE
FINE PEOPLE EXCEPT THEY ARE
IGNORANT ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THEY
WILL NOT BUDGE FROM THAT.
>> Martha: IT REMINDS ME A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE "BASKET OF
DEPLORABLES" STATEMENT.
DO PEOPLE THINK THAT IS A GOOD
WAY TO GO TO INSULT PEOPLE?
>> I TOTALLY DISAGREE, I DON'T
THINK IT'S THE SAME COMMENT AT
ALL.
WHEN HE SAID THEY WERE FINE
PEOPLE, HE WAS DESCRIBING THE
ATTITUDES OF THOSE WHO MAY OR
MAY NOT SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT.
I DON'T TREAT MY FELLOW CITIZENS
LIKE THAT, I WILL LET SAM SPEAK
FOR HIMSELF.
I BELIEVE THAT TONIGHT'S DEBATE
IS ABOUT SUBSTANCE BUT IT'S
ABOUT CHARACTER.
THE VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD
ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, HE WILL
HAVE 90 MINUTES WHEN THE TOPIC
OF HIS SON COMES UP AND I HOPE
THAT HE IS ABLE TO TELL THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE DIRECTLY WHAT WE
ALL KNOW TO BE THE TRUTH AND GET
THIS BEHIND HIM BECAUSE HUNTER
BIDEN IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
HE IS NOT THE ONE FACING ON
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS FACING IT OVER
HIS CALL TO ANOTHER FOREIGN
LEADER TO INVESTIGATE DIRT.
THAT IS THE ISSUE.
THE VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD ANSWER
THAT TONIGHT.
>> Martha: SPEAKING OF THE
IMPEACHMENT SITUATION, WE JUST
GOT WORD THAT NANCY PELOSI HAS
ANNOUNCED AS WE HAD BEEN HEARING
THAT SHE IS NOT GOING TO CALL
FOR A VOTE RIGHT NOW IN THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN
ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
UNOFFICIAL INQUIRY HERE, WHAT DO
YOU SAY TO THAT?
>> THE REASON SHE ISN'T GOING TO
CALL FOR A VOTE IS BECAUSE SHE
KNOWS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATS AND CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICTS THAT ARE FIRST TERMERS
THAT WERE CARRIED BY
DONALD TRUMP IN 2016 AND SHE
KNOWS THAT THIS IS GOING TO
DIVIDE HER CAUCUS, IT'S GOING TO
ENSURE THAT THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO
ARE SITTING AND CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICTS THAT DONALD TRUMP WON
FOUR YEARS AGO ARE GOING TO LOSE
THEIR ELECTION -- SHE WILL
BECOME THE FIRST SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE TO LOSE A MAJORITY ON TWO
SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
SHE DOESN'T WANT TO CALL FOR
THIS VOTE BECAUSE SHE KNOWS HAS
GOING TO HURT HER CAUCUS AND SHE
KNOWS IT GIVES PRIVILEGES TO THE
MINORITY MEMBERS OF THE CAUCUS,
MEANING THE REPUBLICANS, THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SUBPOENA
POWER.
>> Martha: SHE IS TRYING TO
HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, SHE'S MOVING
FORWARD OF HEARINGS AND
TESTIMONY BUT NOT TAKING A VOTE
WHICH HAS BEEN THE CUSTOM IN THE
PAST IN THE CLINTON SITUATION
AND THE NIXON SITUATION --
KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO BE ON
THE STAGE NIGHT ENDS TRY TO
STAND OUT AND MOVE UP IN THIS
GROUP.
SHE SAYS THIS THING COULD HAPPEN
REALLY QUICKLY IF THEY WOULD
JUST MOVE FORWARD, WATCH THIS.
>> IT DOESN'T TAKE UP PROFIT TO
SEE THAT WAS A CONFESSION.
WE HAVE A COVER-UP, WHEN PEOPLE
SAY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS -- IT
SHOULDN'T TAKE VERY LONG BECAUSE
HE DID IT OUT IN THE OPEN.
>> Martha: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
THAT?
>> THE CONSTITUTION GAVE THE
HOUSE THE SOLE DISCRETION.
I WAS A CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER
DURING THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT,
THIS IS A DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
I THINK THE LEADERS SHOULD MAKE
THE DECISIONS AS TO HOW THE
PROCEDURE SHOULD BE REGULATED.
IN SO FAR AS WORRYING ABOUT THE
REELECTION PROSPECTS OF MEMBERS
WHO WON IN 2016, THEY TOOK THE
SAME OATH OF OFFICE AS
DONALD TRUMP, THEY OWE THEIR
ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE IN THE CONSTITUTION, I
HOPE THEY PUT THAT FIRST AND
FOREMOST.
IN TERMS OF KAMALA HARRIS, SHE'S
GOING TO BE PART OF THE JURY,
SHE'S NOT SELECTING THE
EVIDENCE, THAT IS THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE.
BASED ON MY RECOLLECTION, ONLY
TWO MEMBERS WHO ARE RUNNING
CURRENTLY ARE MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT
WILL BE TAKING THAT VOTE WHEN
THAT VOTE OCCURS.
>> Martha: WE WILL HEAR WHAT