now we find out six years later that it turns out that there were memos by uh...
members of the bush administration saying that there that they're torture
just additions were uh... ridiculous and not even close to true and that they had
violated a national law
the guy who welcome those memos is the state department also the time for a
look
uh... celica
and he said that the
white house for proved interrogation about the poor
war crimes
so we did not mince his words he said that waterboarding was uh... no way
legal domestic or internationally
there's no way be specified accordingly anymore
whether it's international law are all along
so he is crystal clear on this
of course uh...
they taken this metal written by the counselor to the state only yet
now how binit we keep or tree anyway
but i haven't heard about shears
then doing a bombing years first good news
on a second full day in office president mama said we will not be doing
those interrogation techniques anymore it's torture or not gonna do it that's
terrific
uh... the bad news is that
demand that the men know what the bush administration council slot but it was
the legal
there wolf course nonetheless be no prosecutions what's right
now if there are no prosecution of the thing that is theoretically illegal
in practice it is perfectly legal
so for example
it though by ministration says
look uh... we theoretically think bank robberies illegal
everybody who's ever done bank robbery before we will not prosecute we know
they did a bankrupt and we've got memos
of their co-conspirators saying this is a bank robber
but we don't look backwards we'll look forwards
uh... so that's okay
now what's the message that that sends a sense of what the
maybe you might want to suspend your bank robber furthermore being
but the made this gentleman's out of office it's obviously it
nothing they gets prosecuted
and so you can continue doing your bank robbers
now torturous become matter opinion
well this admission or policy even
this administration chooses not to be torture
but it's certainly not a matter of law because they'll bomb in nutrition is
decided that it does this not something they can be
prosecutor or something they've chosen not to prosecute
so they're buying
de facto making it legal
so i think that that is in some ways more damaging than doing torture in the
first place
bender tortures reprehensible and we complain about
we were told throughout that time don't worry it's an aberration neutral by
people on our side
people that are in the middle
by legal scholars when the next in this region comes in well does show that it
was illegal and they'll take action and we'll go back on the
correct pack
well the next administration came in and said no i don't know uh... we wont be
doing for the long being
but there is no correct path no one will be prosecuted
it's week would not consider that a crime
in any other crime you would be ridiculous to say i'm not looking
backwards along with reports
all the crimes are committed
in the past
belated judge coming forward i give you another example either you don't need
one
and say only needed the murder yesterday lot my don't look back when i look for
so obviously that's not gonna get prospered
tremendous damage or other lewis who think that uh... a silly of course also
thinks that uh...
jim hill jumper who is our national security expert
had this to say
the administration is clearly disavowed torture
and that is an important and welcome thing
but they're steadily building a framework for impunity
asi that's the really important or
it's impunity even do it with impunity he never did prosecute
well we were just talking about the second part of this
uh... complain about this and is a really good point says we didn't worry
so much about that because the bush administration
was seen as an outline an aberration
and the bush precedent wouldn't have been seen as weighty
side all difficult imagined future president citing present all bala in
their defense of carrying out more targeted killing
of american citizens now this is important because he's saying look
the only civil rights issue was or human rights issue in this case
was not torture there were other things while a swipe at which president obama
has continued to do
and put a stamp of approval on of execution of u_s_ citizens abroad
without a trial
and you know the list goes on um... let alone
the things that they tried at least say trying to close guantanamo but it didn't
work
so that's uh... those
military tribunals will go on
so all most of this is continuity and they're saying
there with a c l_ u_ saying here is that
says you can stop it
all all those things well that's gonna be seen as bipartisan
every administration go for disconnect
feel empowered to execute u_s_ citizens without trial abroad until of course
they do it at home
i'm sure that'll never happen
it several times that of or were never supposed to happen and already happened
and by the way also their billion detained u_s_ citizens without trial
with the military inside the united states has also been signed under
president bomb a
and also something present one satellite shoes
not to apply that as long as i am in office
meaning that the next
person who comes in office democrat or republican can choose to arrest u_s_
citizens in the country with the military without trot
so well passage it was nice knowing
and uh... finally
uh... they say he also says
now we're making many of these emergency powers prominent
and bipartisan
weren't running these things into or
and they have
obvious m like-minded with a_c_l_u_ uh... and i think
and that every
uh... right-thinking act
personally country true that any repairs by the constitution
anyone who calls themselves are conservative anyone who calls themselves
a liberal
anyone cause it's also a brit and anyone who call themselves american
should agree with that