>> Trace:
>> WE’VE SEEN A LOOT OF
JURISDICTIONS ATTACKING LAW
ENFORCEMENT, THINK YOU CAN SOLVE
THESE PROBLEMS THROUGH THINGS
LIKE SOCIAL SERVICES INSTEAD OF
POLICE ON THE STREET.
YOU NEVER SAW US DEFUND POLICE
IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
NOT ON MY WATCH.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Trace: GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS
SAYS CRIME IS ON THE DECLINE IN
FLORIDA.
HE’S REFORMING FLORIDA’S DEATH
PENALTY STATUTE, PUSHING BACK
AGAINST THE ABOLISHMENT OF CRIME
BAIL AND CRACKING DOWN ON
FENTANYL BY INCREASING PENALTIES
FODRUG-RELATED CRIMES.
LET’S BRING IN LEO TERRELL, FOX
NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND RICHARD
FOWLER, CONTRIBUTING WRITER FOR
FORS.
THANK YOU BOTH.
LEO, HE’S RIGHT. NOT ONLY ARE THE NUMBERS DOWN IN
NOT ONLY ARE THE NUMBERS DOWN IN
FLORIDA BUT PEOPLE FEEL SAIDER.
THE "NEW YORK POST" WROTE RON
DESANTIS GOT A RINGING
ENDORSEMENT SAYING THAT THIS
WOMAN FEELS SAFER IN THE
SUNSHINE STATE UNDER THE
REPUBLICAN’S LEADERSHIP THAN SHE
EVER DID IN LIBERAL CALIFORNIA.
YOUR THOUGHTS, LEO.
>> OH, SIMPLE, TRACE.
AMERICA IS HUNGRY FOR LAW AND
ORDER.
I WATCH YOUR SHOW EVERY NIGHT.
YOU DO THE CRIME REPORT.
YOU LOOK AT THESE DEMOCRATIC
CITIES.
THE CRIMINALS ARE THE WINNER
WHAT RON DESANTIS IS DOING, HE’S
INCREASING PENALTY FOR CASES
INVOLVING CHILD RAPE, THE USE OF
DRUGS AND THAT SERVES AS A
DETERRENT.
HE MAKES THESE PROPOSALS TO THE
FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
THEY MAKE A FINAL DECISION AND
HE SIGNS THE BILL.
WHO DOESN’T WANT LAW AND
ORDERED?
THE DEMOCRATS, ANTIFA AND BLACK
LIVES MATTER AND GEORGE SOROS.
>> Trace: IS THAT FAIR?
DO YOU NOT WANT LAW AND ORDER?
>> THAT’S NOT A FAIR ASSESSMENT
AT ALL.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I APPRECIATE GOVERNOR DESANTIS
SOME REFORMS THAT COULD BE MADE
TO CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
ONE IS HOW JURIES HANDLE MURDER
CASES, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
PARKLAND SHOOTER BECAUSE ONE
JUROR DISAGREED WITH IT.
HE TALKS ABOUT HOW TO PROSECUTE
THOSE DISTRIBUTING FENTANYL.
HE SAYS IF YOU HAVE POSSESSION
OF FENTANYL, YOU GET THE SAME
TYPE OF PENALTY.
HERE’S MY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IF YOU BACK TO AMERICA’S FAILED
WAR ON DRUGS THAT INCARCERATED
MORE PEOPLE THAN HELPING THEM
SOLVE THEIR DRUG ADDICTION, YOU
FOUND THE SAME TYPE OF POLICY.
WE’LL LOCK YOU UP, THROW AWAY
THE KEY AND SOMEHOW WE THINK
THAT WILL SOLVE AMERICA’S DRUG
PROBLEM WHEN EVERY EXPERT HAS
TOLD US THE WAY THAT -- THAT
DRUGS ARE A PUBLIC HEALTH
PROBLEM AND NOT A CRIMINAL
JUSTICE PROBLEM.
>> Trace: THE PROBLEM NOW IS AND
GOVERNOR DESANTIS AND HE WILL
HAVE A SOUND WHITE HERE, BUT
FENTANYL IS BEING IGNORED AND
LARGELY IGNORED BECAUSE IT’S
COMING ACROSS THE CERTAIN BORDER
AND NOBODY WANTS TO COVER THE
SOUTHERN BORDER --
>> BUT PENALIZING THE USER IS
NOT A WAY TO SOLVE IT.
DO YOU HELP THE ADDICT --
>> THAT’S WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
HAVE YOU READ IT?
>> I HAVE READ THE LAW.
>> IF YOU READ HIS PROPOSAL --
>> Trace: LET’S LISTEN TO RON
DESANTIS.
>> WE’RE GOING TO MAKE IT A
FIRST DEGREE FELONY TO POSSESS,
SELL OR MANUFACTURE FENTANYL OR
OTHER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES TO
LOOK LIKE CANDY AND GOING TO ADD
A MANDATORY LIFE SENTENCE AND $1
MILLION PENALTY IF YOU’RE
TARGETING CHILDREN.
>> Trace: JUST TO GO BACK TO
WHAT RICHARD WAS SAYING, THE
LINE IS POSSESS, SELL OR
MANUFACTURE FENTANYL TO LOOK
LIKE CANDY.
IT’S NOT PENALIZING THE PEOPLE
THAT GOT THE CANDY SITTING IN
THEIR HAND BECAUSE THEY GOT IT
OFF OF TIK TOK OR SNAP CHAT.
>> IT’S DISINGENUOUS FOR RICHARD
TO COME ON THIS PROGRAM AND
EVERY DAY FOX SHOWS HOW MUCH
CRIME IS IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT’S DISINGENUOUS FOR HIM TO
MAKE A LEAP BACKWARDS AND TALK
ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS IN 1984.
YOU CANNOT DENY, RICHARD, WHAT’S
GOING ON IN NEW YORK,
PHILADELPHIA, LOS ANGELES,
CHICAGO.
FOR YOU TO TRY TO JUST IGNORE
THE SUBJECT, WE HAVE A FENTANYL
PROBLEM. KIDS ARE DYING.
KIDS ARE DYING.
WITH EBB HAVEVHAVE -- WE HAVE KI
BEING EXPLOITED AND ATTACKED.
THATS A FREEDOM IN THE
DEMOCRATIC CITIES THAT --
>> LEO -- >> NO COME ON.
>> NO COME ON.
>> WORDS MATTER -- [TALKING OVER
EACH OTHER].
>> Trace: GO AHEAD, RICHARD.
>> IN THE SOUND BITE, THE KEY
WORD THERE IS POSSESSION.
THAT MEANS IF AN ADDICT OF
FENTANYL HAS A PIECE OF CANDY A
PIECE OF FENTANYL THAT LOOKS
LIKE CANDY, THEY’LL RECEIVE THE
SAME PENALTY AS SOMEBODY THAT IS
DEALING IT.
>> Trace: THAT’S NOT THE INTENT
OF THE LAW.
>> THAT’S WHAT THE GOVERNOR JUST
SAID.
THAT’S WHAT IN HIS PROPOSAL --
>> Trace: THAT’S NOT THE INTENT
OF THE LAW.
[TALKING OVER EACH OTHER].
>> Trace: I JUST WANT TO SAY --
LASTLY, IF I CAN JUST SAY AS WE
WAIT FOR THIS TAPE TO COME OUT
OF MEMPHIS, THE TYRE NICHOLS
TAPE, I HAVE 15 SECONDS FOR EACH
OF YOU WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING
TONIGHT?
>> I’M ANTICIPATING PROFESSIONAL
AGITATORS AS TED WILLIAMS SAID
TO ACT UP AND TO CREATE HAVOC.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS WHAT IS
GOING ON IN THESE DEMOCRATIC
CITIES.
YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
THERE’S A HORRIFIC CRIME WHERE
THESE OFFICERS ARE BEING
CHARGED.
WE HAVE TO LET THE PROCESS PLAY
OUT.
I WANT TO SEE THE VIDEOTAPE.
I’M HOPING THERE’S A MINIIZATION
OF CRIME THROUGHOUT THE NATION
ON THIS ISSUE.
>> Trace: VERY QUICKLY, RICHARD.
>> LAST TIME I CHECKED,
TENNESSEE WAS A RED STATE.
BEYOND THAT POINT, WHAT I HOPE
HAPPENS, AMERICA CONTINUES TO
SEAL THAT THERE’S A PROBLEM AND
WE CANNOT ADDRESS IT UNTIL WE
ENSURE THAT POLICING IS
EFFECTIVE, ACCOUNTABLE AND HOLDS
THE COMMUNITY AT ITS STORE.