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>>> TENSIONS ARE HEATING YOU UP IN THE MIDDLE EAST AFTER TWO
OIL TANKERS WERE HIT.
GENERAL BARRY MCCAFFREY IS A
MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE
EXPERT AND BEEN CLOSELY
MONITORING THE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO
COME IN AND TALK TO US.
ARE YOU A LITTLE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE REPUBLIC?
>> THE IRANIANS ARE STARTING TO
STRANGLE THEM.
STRANGLE THEM. THEIR GOING DOWN THE TUBES AND
DESPERATE AND TRYING TO BREAK
OUT OF THIS BOX.
THEY ARE GOING AFTER OUR OIL
TANKERS.
TANKERS.
TANKERS. SO FAR, JUST SIGNALING THEY'RE
CAPABILITY TO CLOSE THE GULF.
>> WE COULD DO THIS IF WE
WANTED TO?
WANTED TO? >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. IT GUTTED THE REVOLUTIONARY
GUARD SWIMMERS.
GUARD SWIMMERS. IF THEY DID CLOSE THE GULF, NO
QUESTION, WE WILL FIGHT AND IT
WILL BE A REGIONAL DISASTER FOR
EVERYONE INVOLVED.
EVERYONE INVOLVED. >> HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IS?
I THINK UNLIKELY.
I THINK THEY WILL GO BACK TO
MAKING NUCLEAR MATERIAL.
THEY'LL TRY TO GET THE
EUROPEANS TO HELP THEM BREAK
THE ECONOMIC BLOCKADE.
SO FAR SINCE WE CONTROL THE
INTERNATIONAL BANKING SYSTEM,
IT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE.
BUT AT SOME POINT, THE JAPAN
NEED CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE
MARINE OIL.
MARINE OIL. THIS IS HEATING UP.
IT WILL BE A CONFRONTATION AND
IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.
I THINK EVERYONE INVOLVED THAT
A WAR WILL BE A REAL
CATASTROPHE.
CATASTROPHE. >> LET'S TALK BIG NEWS ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT. IN AN INTERVIEW PRESIDENT TRUMP
SAID THAT HE WOULD LOOK AT,
PERHAPS CONSIDER TAKING HELP
FROM A FOREIGN SOURCE IN THE
ELECTION, MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT
CALL THE FBI AND THAT THE FBI
DIRECTOR WAS WRONG IN SAYING
THAT THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST
CALL.
CALL.
CALL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
AND WHAT IS THE THREAT POSED
WHAT A FOREIGN ENTITY
APPROACHES A CANDIDATE?
>> I TAUGHT AMERICAN GOVERNMENT
AT COLLEGE LEVEL FOR FIVE
YEARS.
YEARS.
YEARS. AND I USED TO THINK WHAT THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE NORMS OF
THE BEHAVIOR BETWEEN THE THREE
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT ARE.
NO LONGER.
NO LONGER. I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. TRUMP IS
DOING.
DOING.
DOING. IT
DOING. IT PAINS ME TO SAY THIS, HE IS
ESSENTIALLY A LAWLESS
INDIVIDUAL.
INDIVIDUAL. THAT IS A DIRECT CONFRONTATION,
NOT JUST WITH THE CONGRESS BUT
WITH ACTUAL FEDERAL LAW AND
WITH ETHICS AND COMMON SENSE.
NOW THE ONLY IMPORTANT
CONVERSATION TOPIC DEALING WITH
MR. TOPIC WITH MR. TRUMP IS 41%
OF THE AMERICAN STILL SUPPORT
HIM.
HIM.
HIM. WE'VE BEEN DEALT WITH A
PRESIDENT WHO HAS NO CHARACTER.
I THINK HE'S BEEN THAT WAY HIS
ENTIRE LIFE.
ENTIRE LIFE. WE'RE IN REAL COUNTRY IN THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> OTHER THAN THAT, THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT SAID IT IS GOING TO
INVESTIGATE THE TOP
INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS THAT ARE
INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNINGS OF
THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
IS THIS A POLITICAL PAY BACK OR
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS
LEGITIMATE AND COULD PERHAPS
UNCOVER SOME THINGS THAT COULD
BE CORRECTED?
BE CORRECTED? OR IS THAT UNO ANAL?
>> NOT KNOWN.
>> LAW ENFORCEMENT OR
NONPOLITICAL, NONPARTISAN
NONPOLITICAL, NONPARTISAN ISSUES.
ISSUES.
ISSUES. SOMETIMES PRESIDENTS HAVE
TURNED BACK BUT NOTHING LIKE
THIS.
THIS.
THIS. I
THIS. I HAVE SERIOUS RESERVATIONS
ABOUT WHAT MR. COMEY DID.
I THINK HE WAS A POLITICAL
ACTOR.
ACTOR.
ACTOR. I
ACTOR. I THINK HE WAS SORT OF PRO
HILLARY BUT COMPLETELY
DISGRACING HIMSELF IN THE FBI
PRIOR TO THE ELECTION.
>> IN TALKING ABOUT THE CASE,
ANNOUNCING THAT SHE WAS CLEAR
AND THEN THROWING HER BACK IN
THE WATER.
THE WATER. THE FBI IS UNCORRUPTABLE.
THEY TALK DIRECTLY TO CONGRESS
TO TELL THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE LEADERSHIP, BOTH PARTIES
WHAT THEY'RE UP TO.
THEY OPERATE WITHIN THE LAW.
THE PRESIDENT AS IF HE SEES
HIMSELF AS A SEPARATE ACTOR
ATTACKING HIS OWN GOVERNMENT.
IF IS FUNDAMENTALLY AGAINST THE
CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION. >> WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FBI THAT
CANDIDATES ARE ACCEPTING THIS
KIND OF INFORMATION AND USING
IT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
ANYTHING?
ANYTHING?
ANYTHING? >> MOSTLY FBI AS DOMESTIC
RESPONSIBILITY AND THE CIA
CANNOT COLLECT EVIDENCE EXCEPT
FOR UNDER VERY LIMITED
CIRCUMSTANCES ON FOREIGNERS IN
THE UNITED STATES.
THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD PICK UP
ON THIS IS THE CIA.
WE LISTEN TO GLOBAL CYBER
TRAFFIC.
TRAFFIC.
TRAFFIC. THE MINUTE THAT YOU SHOW SHOULD
HAVE BROKEN SOMEONE'S
COMMUNICATIONS, THEY'LL CHANGE
IT.
IT.
IT. AND
IT. AND THEY PICKED UP ON NORTH
KOREA, IRANIAN OR RUSSIAN TRYING
TO INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION.
THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
IT IS AN ACT OF POLITICAL
WARFARE.
WARFARE.
WARFARE. WE NEED TO SECURE OUR ELECTIONS
TO INCLUDE PAPER BALLOTS.
BUT WE NEED TO CONFRONT THE
RUSSIANS.
RUSSIANS.
RUSSIANS. >> THIS HAS WORRIED ME FROM THE
BEGIN -- I READ THE 39 PAGE
INDICTMENT AGAINST THE RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE SERVICES AND
TESTIMONY DOESN'T SEEMS LIKE
ANY OF THIS AS LANDED AS
SERIOUSNESS FOR US AS
AMERICANS, JUST SECURING THE
VERY THING THAT MAKES US FREE,
A FAIR ELECTION SYSTEM AND THAT
BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE NEED
THAT THEIR COUNTRY IS GOING IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
IT FEEL TO ME THAT IS BEING
ERODED.
ERODED.
ERODED. >> THE MUELLER REPORT FELL TO
THE FLOP BECAUSE BY AND LARGE
EVERYONE KNEW WHAT HE WAS
FINDING ANY WAY.
THE ONLY CONTROVERSY WAS DO YOU
INDICT A SITTING PRESIDENT, YET
OR NO?
OR NO?
OR NO? I
OR NO? I THINK THE ANSWER WAS NO, OF
COURSE WE DON'T WANT CRIMINAL
INDICTMENTS OF A PRESIDENT.
>> I THINK IT WAS WIDELY
UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT WAS NOT
GOING TO BE THE OUTCOME.
IT HAD TO BE A POLITICAL
OUTCOME, CONGRESS DECIDING
YESTERDAY OR NO TO CONVICT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONVICT.
I THINK PEOPLE OF BOTH PARTIES
AND BOTH VIEWPOINTS DECIDED
THIS IS HOPELESS.
IT IS GOING TO GET DECIDED IN
2020.
2020.
2020. IT
2020. IT IS GOING TO GET DECIDED IN
TWO ELECTIONS, THE DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARIES.
PRIMARIES. THEY THEY RAN A CANDIDATE THAT
IS ELECTABLE.
IS ELECTABLE. AND WILL IT LET A PRESIDENT DO
SOME GOOD THINGS.
BUT I THINK THERE IS A GOOD
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. A SECOND TERM WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP WOULD DO SERIOUS DAMAGE
FOR SERIOUS ELECTION.
>> AND YOU GIVE HIM ANOTHER
FOUR YEARS OF RESHAPING HOW WE
VIEW EACH OTHER.
DO WE HAVE A CIVIL LAW DISCORD?
DO WE SETTLE DISPUTES IN THE
COURT SYSTEM OR BIPARTISAN
DEBATE IN CONGRESS.
SO, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT IS
HARD TO OVERSTATE THE
SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION
THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
COMING IN TODAY.
I HOPE YOU'LL COME BACK AND
TALK TO US ABOUT NORTH KOREA AS
WELL.
WELL.
WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU HAD A VERY LONG LIFE OF
SERVICE.
SERVICE.
SERVICE. IT IS IMPRESSIVE.