Speaker 1: As I have told you many times now, Chris Christie, certainly before Miami Mayor
Francis Suarez announced he was running and maybe even still Chris Christie is by far
the most reasonable Republican candidate that is presenting himself for the Republican nomination.
If I were voting in the Republican nomination process, I would choose Chris Christie easily.
Chris Christie has been telling uncontroversial truths which within the MAGA world are very
controversial.
He appeared yesterday on Fox News, and quite frankly, it didn't seem like Fox News hosts
Bill Hemmer.
And I believe this is Dana Perino wanted to hear these uncontroversial truths, sprinkling
Christie with many of the same talking points that we've heard from MAGA for a while now.
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 2: The border is ridiculous and the policies did much better in everything you
just mentioned.
But when?
Secondly, his policies did not do better at the border.
At the border, we have a diminishing of what we're seeing now.
But remember what he promised in 2016.
He was going to build a wall across the entire border in his first four years and Mexico
was going to pay for it.
Well, we got a wall that's about a quarter of the way done.
And Mexico is given us $1 yet.
Now.
Speaker 1: Chris Christie is, of course, completely correct.
The idea that Trump was going to build a wall across the entire US-Mexico border, as if
that would even stop the the problem that they're trying to solve.
But put that aside for a moment.
Trump said, We're going to build a wall across the entire border during my first term.
Mexico is going to pay for it.
Trump didn't do it and Mexico didn't pay.
You and I knew in 2016 that that was never going to happen.
However, Chris Christie, who now acts as if that was an obviously ridiculous promise,
never called Trump out on it in 2016 or 2017 or 2018 or 2019 or 2020.
Now that Christie has distanced from Trump, has criticized Trump and is running against
him.
Now, he points out the absurdity.
Now Chris Christie is completely correct.
He's completely correct, but he's only opportunistically doing this now.
He knew all along it was a ridiculous promise, stayed mum for as long as he was supporting
Donald Trump.
Here's another clip from this Fox News interview of Chris Christie.
Speaker 2: On a debate stage.
He's going to say Biden stopped it and you can go down to the border today and see piles
of steel that are just laying there in the in the Arizona desert build.
Those piles of steel have been sitting there since Donald Trump was president.
He didn't get it done.
He couldn't convince the Republican Congress to fund the wall.
He couldn't finish it.
And he didn't change one immigration law.
Speaker 1: Now, in this particular interview, Chris Christie is telling obvious truths.
And Fox News host Bill Hemmer is carrying bucket loads of water for Trump and for MAGA.
The saddest part about all of this to me is that this proves something.
We've long suspected reasonable Republicans, to the extent that they exist and to the extent
that they exist, I would include Chris Christie on that on that list.
Reasonable Republicans do actually know that their normal talking points are lies.
They know that, including the ones that Chris Christie himself repeated when he was behind
Trump literally and figuratively during Donald Trump's first term, or at least the majority
of it.
And yet he was still willing to tell those lies.
I would suggest to you and you tell me whether you agree or disagree, I would suggest to
you that it's actually more depraved that they know these talking points are bogus,
but they repeat them when they are on the correct team and then all of a sudden, when
it's no longer useful to them, they abandon those talking points.
This is the sort of thing certainly I would never do.
And I think there are many elected officials out there who wouldn't do it.
We may win or lose.
We may get the best or the worst of a particular election or a debate.
But I don't care who's saying it to you, if it's a Democrat or it's a Republican, if it's
someone I support or if it's someone I oppose, if someone says I'm going to build a wall
in four years and I'm going to get a different country to pay for it, I'm going to tell you
that that's B.S.
This is the difference morally and ethically between some that are operating in the political
sphere and others.
So on the one hand, yes, Chris Christie is telling the truth now after years of lying.
Chris Christie is a far more moderate Republican than many of these other clowns.
Chris Christie actually has some critical thinking and intelligence abilities that would
make him a far better president than people like Trump or DeSantis or others.
All of those things are true.
It is also true at the same time, and this is living with the conflict of what it is
to be a person in the world.
At the same time, despite all of those positive traits I just outlined about Chris Christie,
he's a guy who, with no hesitation that unflinchingly didn't even flinch, didn't even glitch for
years repeated or at least stood aside as others were telling these obvious lies in
service to being close to power and to being friendly with the president and all of the
reasons that would encourage Chris Christie to do what he did for four years.
So if if you said, David, you're voting in the Republican primary this year, who do you
pick?
I pick Chris Christie.
Does that mean I think this guy is the epitome and holy grail of morality and ethics in politics?
No, I do not.
He was as dishonest as the rest of them for many, many years.
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